ISNT ASTRAL PROJECTION AND OOBE THE SAME THING?

[FEMMSTARR]

What is the difference ?  

[Scorpyn]

As far as I know, OOBE is a special case of Astral Projection.

OOBE = Astral Projection in the regular physical place we are used to being in

So, basically - yup, they are the same  

[FEMMSTARR]

thanks

[manuel]

yes there the exact same thing, in fact the word astral projection has been used for some time, it was mainly by those such as mystics and what not, the term out of body experience was termed by parapsychologist, Charles Tart in the 60's.

[FEMMSTARR]

is this the same manuel that i message with on the nde forum?

[manuel]

Yes thats me, the other one is my evil twin on the forum...nah just jokin  

[FEMMSTARR]

check out my reply to your website message post

[stephen~]

Well I could be wrong, but the way I interpret it is that an OBE is a blanket term for anyone that 'leaves' their physical body, or has perception away from it, this may be dying, remote viewing even, and astral and RTZ projections - On a side note I think you will see there is a pretty good argument that we don't leave anything at all, however that's another issue,  so for this explanation assume you do.

An astral projection is also a blanket term but generally projectors talk about astral as a specific (but loose) set of projections that fall within a range of experiences. As distinct from RTZ projections that are generally a mirror of the physical world.

An astral projection therefore is a particular type of OBE with characteristics that make you think 'astral'.

I think these terms, all terms related to the subject, should be taken loosely, because the experiences can vary during their course from more one thing to more another.

[alexd]

From my understanding, to somewhat reinforce what stephen said:

Astral Projection is projecting into the astral using the astral body.

OBE is projecting into the ethereal, astral, mental, causal or any other sub-plane besides the physical.

So OBE is just a broader term, and not so fixed to the 'astral'.



HTH
Alex

[Dagalvyi]

I would say they are basically the same. I consider myself to be in AP when i become totally aware and in total control of my surroundings which are usually some place unique. In my OBE's i tend to think I am getting up out of bed only to realize that my body is asleep as my spirit is not. I usually discover the difference when something odd happens. Then I say to myself."Oops, I think I'm still asleep, physically." One can AP after they initially OBE.Your just mentally projecting yourself some place other than your origination.       Happy Astraling!

[FEMMSTARR]

Yes thats me, the other one is my evil twin on the forum...nah just jokin  

I realize sticking feathers up your butt doesnt make you a chicken but what does it make you? do they have a name for that?