Nightmare.. stuck in lower plane?!!!

[Tom]

Although I do not recall it clearly, I seem to recall an incident in the book "The Celestine Prophecy" involving an experience of a lower plane and being stuck there. It did not sound like the dream I had several years ago of being in a lower realm. The other people there were not acting the same way. In my dream the other people kept to themselves mostly but in the experience I read the people there seemed very possessive.

[ralphm]

Maybe you were working out your karma. The worst I have experienced is just balckness and not being able to move. Do you have any indication this stuff could be in your subconcious?

[Paukki]

Help me out, as I'm a bit confused.  I thought lucid dreams were dreams in which you had total self-control, both of the dream and of yourself in the dream.  Am I wrong?  Or are there different kinds of lucid dreams--like one kind where you are aware of your dreaming but can't control it, and another kind where you >can< control it?  I can't imagine being in control of a dream and then dreaming of giving birth to an endless stream of mangled beings, so it would appear you werent' in complete control, but just completely aware of what was going on, right?  If it had been a non-lucid dream I would have wondered if I were being told that my thinking was still entirely too much in the lower vibratory realms, or that it was not being properly developed, (or gestated), followed through and brought to healthy fruition.  But that would be for me, I don't know about for you.  Just hope you don't have to "learn" too much more!

--Paukki

[fredhedd]

u can be lucid and not in control.  lucid just refers to you being aware that you are dreaming.

[Kenneth]

Hi Love2all.

That sure sounds like a very bad experience for sure !

When I was a little boy I had some very bad dreams as well, but I remember reading somewhere (at around 10 I think - I am 31 by now), that Nightmares are your subconcius's way of dealing with emotional situations, you don't want to / can't deal with in "real" life (!).

... Sort of like an emotional Cleaning-function that automatically takes over, when your "normal" system can't handle (release / learn from) the emotions connected with different situations.

So for me to have a nightmare - even a very strong one - gives me a strong feeling of "gratitude" afterwards - I typically use 3-4-10 minutes after I wake up from i nightmare to "work my way through" the horror images and feelings created from the nightmare (Like peeling layers of an onion), until I have a strong connection with a feeling of gratitude to my subconcius for "helping" me deal with a strong emotional situation, I either couldn't handle, or wouldn't handle in my concius life.

In the last years it has gottten so strong, so when I (on a very few occations) have a nightmare, I can actually feel a sence of "gratitude" WHEN I am in the strong and often "dark" feelings of the nightmare ?!? ... (I think I have "programmed" my system to do that automatically over the years). The FEELINGS in the nightmare are just as strong, but underneath them / through them i can sort of sence my gratitude and a sort of "calmnes". That eases the whole experience a lot ...

So could it be a way for you to handle nightmares, instead of "running" from them / hiding them away, then "embracing" them, and try and find out WHAT feelings they cover / what feelings in YOU they try to Picture ?. (The pictures can be horrible, but IMO it is the FEELINGS underneath the pictures that are the key issue here !)

/A little hint - Feelings often cover each other like the layers of an onnion, and often the feeling you get is just sort of the "tip of the iceberg".

Try to bring yourself "through" that feeling (Sort of "sinking" through the feeling), and just be alert in your body (!) to whatever "shows up" when you do that, and then repeat that over and over again, sinking through the feelings one by one. (If a certain situation arises when you do this, just "set a mark", and continue downwards through your feelings).

At some point you will come to a sort of "I cant get any further" place - or a "Stuck" place - like a black "void" ... THAT is just a feeling too - so try to "let go" when you reach that place - try to "fall through", and continue downwards through suddenly very warm and comforting feelings ... until you reach your innermost self !).

Experiencing the REAL YOU is THE most stunning and wonderfull experience you can ever dream of ! ... It's like being love itself, like being "part of everything and everyone", and once you have gotten a "strong" connection to YOU, you never want to break that again ! ...


Hope this helps and comforts you a little ....

/Kenneth

[love2all]

I had some of the worst nightmares (all Lucid) I had ever had in my life last night. I have no idea why but I just kept getting one after the other. I remember praying before I went to bed and mediating that I WOULD have lucid dreams tonight but nothing unpleasant unless I needed to "learn something". Sure enough, I got my lucid dreams but HORRIBLE ones.

They were gruesome, terrifying and very very realistic. I hate to even mention what was in them but one was of me giving birth to hundreds and hundreds of mangled.... beings. Like I said I hate to describe them to you because they were so horrible. I felt like I was stuck in the scariest horror film ever made.

I've had bad dreams and bad lucid dreams before but this went beyond that.
Do you think I somehow got "stuck" in one of the lower realms? I do think I astrally projected last night at some point because I remember "buzzing" very strongly and then.. I blanked.

Help! I never never want a night like that again. Any ideas, similar experiences? Has anyone gone to a lower plane and can share their story?