Bush Sucks.

[Willis]

His head is so far up corporate america, I can smell the stink from here.

May 18, 2005 MSNBC "Eleven states sued the Bush administration Wednesday to block new rules allowing coal-burning utilities to trade rights to emit toxic mercury, adding to other lawsuits challenging the regulations."

He will go down in history as the president who isolated America from the rest of the world and put the fear of corporate democratic capitalism in the minds of the under-privileged everywhere.

To all you non-Americans out there, please know that Pres Bush does not represent the morals of a VERY LARGE portion of Americans.

[RooJ]

Although not specifically aimed at bush, im not liking the look of this either:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0518-02.htm

Its strange how a country's government/military etc can preach peace and world stability while simultaneously developing more unique, effective and efficient ways to kill people (and causing other countries to develop the same type of technology in order to feel protected).
I know nearly ALL countries develop better and better weapons as a habit but i think taking them into space is way overboard.
Lets just hope it never happens eh.

>RooJ

[narfellus]

Sounds like Star Wars all over again. There were great threads here some months back about Tesla and his inventions, and the way they have been militarized for experimental weapon systems, such as bouncing energy off the stratosphere and hitting the opposite side of the globe.

Tesla's story alone is fascinating though.

http://www.viewzone.com/tesla.ray.html

[no_leaf_clover]

He will go down in history as the president who isolated America from the rest of the world and put the fear of corporate democratic capitalism in the minds of the under-privileged everywhere.

You're being too easy on the Father.

Heil!

[Nick]

My desperate hope is that the day will one day come (fingers crossed) when my government (and the corporations that run it) will put health care before warfare.

2 cents,
Nick

[Ben K]

I am getting out of here as quick as possible. (Im not to satisfied with our country as you can tell from my location)

[Souljah333]

WHAT HAPPENED TO MY POST??? ARG! (*&(^^%$&^%^&)(#())@@*$_)(#!!!

did anyone listen to C2C "the immigration problem"
333

most ex-pat's end up moving to some third world country. wait a bit, and you won't have to move anywhere!

anyone also hear anything about japan and china no longer buying our debt? bad situation is an understatement here. no longer a viable investment. use to buy it all up to keep the illusion that the us dollar was strong, and keep us consuming their goods, but now i guess there's little point, and asia thinking about switching to the euro. anyone read anything about the PANAMERICA project? they needed to get the new national i.d.'s okayed first, but they've done that. next the AMERO.
but since i think britain bought us out of bankruptcy in the past (which i don't think we paid off yet), and they're going at it again with a "helpful" hand... maybe we should all start practicing "god save the king", and start getting use to being called south canada! at least that way you'll get your socialized medicine and fewer wars

resistance is futile!!! everyone should be canadian (in their hearts)!

PS...anyone wants to buy a finca down in argentina...i'll be the housekeeper/masseuse/gardener/resident artist

[no_leaf_clover]

anyone also hear anything about japan and china no longer buying our debt?

Damn. o.o

Good thing I'm still planning on living self-sufficiently in the Appalachians!

Btw, Nick, the only problem with that is medicine doesn't make as much $$. That's all they care about.

[Ben K]

Canada is the way to go.



And cant forget about that sweet sweet BC bud

[Souljah333]

and french fries with gravy, melted cheese & ketchup mmmmmmmmmmm.

that's the first i've laughed all day! thanx

[RooJ]

From godlikeproductions.com

Russia Threatens US With Force If Space Weapons Become Active:

Russia would consider using force if necessary to respond if the US put a combat weapon into space, according to a senior Russian official.

Vladimir Yermakov, senior counsellor at the Russian embassy in Washington, on Tuesday told a conference on space militarisation that Russia was working through diplomatic channels to urge the US not to move towards fielding weapons in space. But he said Russia would have to react, possibly with force, if the US successfully put a "combat weapon" in space.

I say again.... lets just hope it never happens eh.

>RooJ

[no_leaf_clover]

Yeah, weapons in space = bad.

Russia has just recently developed missiles that can dart in and out of Earth's atmosphere, thus preventing us from being able to even try to intercept them. I guess this the the US's reaction. I'm rather disappointed, seeing as how Russia finally regained its ability to keep us in check.

[knucklebrain1970]

I wish everyone could meditate at a specific day at a specific time on a specific thought and merge our collective consciousness. If it were possible, to make everyone in the Bush administration to resign.

I'm not kidding about this.


Kevin

[knucklebrain1970]

From godlikeproductions.com

Russia Threatens US With Force If Space Weapons Become Active:

Russia would consider using force if necessary to respond if the US put a combat weapon into space, according to a senior Russian official.

Vladimir Yermakov, senior counsellor at the Russian embassy in Washington, on Tuesday told a conference on space militarisation that Russia was working through diplomatic channels to urge the US not to move towards fielding weapons in space. But he said Russia would have to react, possibly with force, if the US successfully put a "combat weapon" in space.

I say again.... lets just hope it never happens eh.

>RooJ

I'm hoping it does happen. Then I wont have to feel guilty about suicide :lol. I say get it the hell over with. There are too many rich people in the world that don't understand how good their life is. They are miserable and have to make others miserable because they can't understand how to be happy. They have money, power, everything but are still not happy. That's really what this is all about. Think about it.

I say just end it already and stop teasing us. I hope we go back to sticks and stones real soon. I've had it with mindless red cells operating the planet. Time for a drastic change I say. I'm ready. BRING IT.

Kevin

[Willis]

"They have money, power, everything but are still not happy."

When are we all going to realize that, despite popular belief, this isn't what makes you happy.

[knucklebrain1970]

The only thing that makes them happy is trying to make us all clones of each other. When there are no more free thinkers, they have succeeded. They can take my car, my house, even my body, but the Guberment and all of it's intellegenge combined (which couldn't power a flashlight bulb) will never have my soul  

[Nick]

posted by no leaf clover:

Btw, Nick, the only problem with that is medicine doesn't make as much $$. That's all they care about.

Agreed (emphasis on greed)  

[NeoSaturn]

Canada is the way to go.



And cant forget about that sweet sweet BC bud

YES!!! you are official cool now! i LOVE living in canada

[knightlight]

I agree that I am ready for a serious change and I think one is coming dispite the attempts by the government to suppress it and everything related to the spread of info about it.  I havent even heard about the russians threatening force or their new missiles.  I guess that could make people cry out to the Gov to do something about it, or heaven forbid start a panic.

[shedt]

Canada is the way to go.



And cant forget about that sweet sweet BC bud

YES!!! you are official cool now! i LOVE living in canada

we love you Americans, come with us up here !

[Jenadots]

And what makes you think the democrats are any different?  Just as many of them are multi-millionaires and take money from corporations.  

It is just a time of "Pick Your Brand of Fanatic"  - both parties have them.  

And if someone wants to leave the country, he or she is certainly free to do so.  Free to come back too.  We are condemned to be free....big responsibility.  

Presidents come and Presidents go.  And that's a good thing.   No doubt, somebody will hate the next one, or the next five.  Others won't.  

Bush is the President.....good grief, get over it.  Some of us had to live with Clinton for 8 years, so you can certainly survive this.

[Willis]

Some of us had to live with Clinton for 8 years, so you can certainly survive this.

Can't argue with you there!  

And what makes you think the democrats are any different? Just as many of them are multi-millionaires and take money from corporations.

There either...

My problem with Bush is his outright deceit.  The guy is such a liar and manipulator he makes Clinton look like a saint.  And what gets me is half of America plays right into his rhetoric.

By the way, for the record, I am a republican.  I don't agree alot with what the democrats represent, but having Bush around is making it oh so inviting to part ways.  He is doing evil things in order to "secure our economy & security".

And if someone wants to leave the country, he or she is certainly free to do so

.

Its too cold in Canada anyways  

[no_leaf_clover]

Jenadots, no offense, but for someone so intelligent and wise I think you have some pretty strong blinders on.

Both parties are horrible, yes, but you're missing a disgusting bigger picture here that requires disregarding your preconceptions, and it is not limited to either political party. This country is no longer a democracy, as our votes are no longer any threat to the powers that be, and our policies are making a beeline towards authoritarianism in 9/11's wake. Start researching Diebold if you want to know how incredibly democratic this country is.

By the way, for the record, I am a republican. I don't agree alot with what the democrats represent, but having Bush around is making it oh so inviting to part ways. He is doing evil things in order to "secure our economy & security".

The heart of the problem doesn't belong to any political party, but the American system itself now. Hey, see if you recognize this quote:

"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great nation. We must take steps to insure our domestic security and protect our Homeland."

Know who said that? G.W. Bush? Nope, but good guess! Give up? Ok, it was Hitler. Hitler said that. But, you know, Hitler was another one of those "follow him or leave our country" kind of guys, you know?

Ok, guess who said this next one:

"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."

Yep, you're catching on now! Another Nazi. Hermann Goering, to be exact.

When you come across people that present these very same policies[/b], you don't say "oh well, get over it, you can ride it out; I had to put up with your party's crap!" Instead, some ears should be raised, regardless of which party you herd to, and you should start paying attention to what these people are doing with your country! But NO ONE IS! It's easy to hate Bush, and there are plenty of good reasons, believe me, but the deeper problem is more sick than something that belongs to Bush alone. It's quickly becoming a problem of the whole system.

And 9/11 was no Pearl Harbor, either; it was a Reichstag. If you want to further discuss the specifics on that I would be more than happy, but for some reason I seriously doubt anyone who reads this will care. It's a sad state when no one cares. Our current administration is literally dwelling on it, I'm sure, but for everyone else this ignorance and apathy is becoming a real drag.

[Willis]

but for everyone else this ignorance and apathy is becoming a real drag.

Amen.  The American system is moving further away from democracy with capitalism leading the charge.  And those of you who deny this concept are either ignorant of the subject or working as a "higher up" with a vested interest in a large corporation.

Capitalism has become a beast of its own, and the next revolution will be global one, the obscenely rich vs. the poor and their sympathizers, the polluters vs. the humanitarians and tree huggers.

This capitalistic machine will fail in its current state because it is based on a system that relies fundamentally on the consumption of natural resources.  The reason it will eventually fail is because we are quickly nearing the end of Earth's ability to provide these resources.

The big question isn't if the system fails, it is when, and how much damage will be done in terms of resource depletion, human suffering, and environmental collapse.  

America is turning its eye away from this looming problem, ignoring it for short term gain.  We are turning our back on the world in the name of forceful peacekeeping, in the name of a strong economy no matter the cost.

We will see more fundamental change in the next couple decades (if not sooner) than humanity has seen since civilization's inception.  This change will occur by voluntary choice or will be thrust upon us by the forces of nature.

"May you live in interesting times."

You may.

[patapouf]

The big question isn't if the system fails, it is when, and how much damage will be done in terms of resource depletion, human suffering, and environmental collapse.  

America is turning its eye away from this looming problem, ignoring it for short term gain.  We are turning our back on the world in the name of forceful peacekeeping, in the name of a strong economy no matter the cost.

We will see more fundamental change in the next couple decades (if not sooner) than humanity has seen since civilization's inception.  This change will occur by voluntary choice or will be thrust upon us by the forces of nature.

In one of my biology course we have seen that any species that grows exponentially will sharply go down drastically, I hope that it's not true.

I'm a Canadian also and happy to live in this country but it is as corrupted as any other ones; corporate puppets are also at the head of the gov. and you have probably heard about the big scandal of the liberal party.... People are so proud of our health system but the gov. is making everything so the private sector can have a place where they can divide the rich and the poor. And just yesterday, the Supreme court have open the field in the province of Quebec for this private/public health system. Who do you think is the most happy? You know that the insurance companies are! So if you want to invest, you know what to do.... Baby boomers will get the corporate pig even fatter in the years to come. Again, this is another step toward the division of the rich and the poor.

Take care,