Donors (PSI-VAMP)

[curious05]

Hi All,

Is there any potential danger of saying 'yes' to a psi-vamp to be a donor?  

Thanks.

[Nay]

Err....what?

[curious05]

Hi Nay,

Yeah - psi-vamp --- apparently vampires that make use of your energy - as i would use the air to breath.

[Nay]

Yeah, I know the definition, I just don't understand about the donor thing..  Like a blood drive or something? LOL

[beavis]

They already vamp enough people. Why give them more?

[You]

If you have plenty of energy to give, and are getting something in return (or are in love with them, which you probably are), then sure.

That's if they ARE Psi-Vamps. If they're not, they're faking for attention, so in that case it's fine to indulge them. OR they're confused and you should try to wean them off of it into reality.

Real Psi-Vamps don't REALLY need volunteers, just the moral ones. Or the crafty ones.

[daem0n]

http://www.sacred-texts.com/goth/vc/vc19.htm

[You]

Speaking of psi-vamps, is there any psi-vamp hookup service where I can find some people to drain in my area, or is that generally a thing you need to go out and get for yourself?

[RedWolfHealgDrmr]

Why would you want to invite that sort of thing into your space?  That which is invited is more difficult tto relieve yourself of than that which is not requested.  

However if youw ant to send someone energy it's quite simple a thing to do, simply think energy to them with the intent to send them energy.  I prefer to not take anyone's energy, there is plenty to be had from the source that is pure, not already dirtied up with a persons fears, anger and other forms of unclean energy.  All you have to do to get it is ask for it!  Crazy then to think someone would want another persons energy!

Energy Vampires use the same means that people use everyday to connect with each other.  We all have connections to each other that are called cords or "cords of connection".  We have them with people we know and love and even those we do not know but maybe just smile when passing them on the street.  The closer we feel to someone the brighter the glow of the cord.

Energy Vampires/EV's though use these cords as a way to gain energy.   So if youa re feeling energy-poor this is most likely why, that and that you may have leaks of your own that need healing.

This is why it's so important to cleanse ourselves and our bubbles and filaments as often as possible and to change our modes of protection constantly.  For example many use silvery glitter in their bubbles to keep an EV from connecting to them that way.  Some use personal body armor and some use both, like me.  But the best protection one can use is to send love to those individuals to help them raise their energy vibrations so they will come to understand why what they do is wrong.  Of course many do not even realize they do it.

Then some people just leave themselves open to anything sent their way due to ignorance.  We have all been there at some point, grin.

Example:

When we walk through a shopping mall, upon leaving we all feel tired.   The reason for that is that everyone int he mall as they walk leak off their energies, some good but much of it is not such great energy, dirty with their fears, illusions, anger, etc.

We walk through all that muck and pick up those energies as we go along.  It's very important to cleanse and protect ourselves before enetering those kind of places AND after we are out of there.
Hope this helps you, please feel free to add your own thoughts or ask any questions.  Red Wolf



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[GOTHIKA]

Well I am a psi vamp and have found alot of mistaken predjudices about my kind.
We are not all bad even though some may be and "ARE NOT ALL OUT TO DRAIN PEOPLE OF ALL THEIR VITAL ENERGY!'
In fact some of us can use our powers to manipulate energy and can even heal others using these techniques.

[twitch]

i dont understand why would you even want to be a psivamp?

[GOTHIKA]

Its not a matter of wanting to be a psi vamp, either you are or you aren't.
Some people prefer to pretend and ignore what they are but I chose to embrace it.

[Souljah333]

if you're interested...then you're already giving off the scent. if you want more attraction than that...put the word out online...there's no lack of feeders that's for certain. it's one thing if you're giving of yourself bcuz of some passionate, tangled relationship...but i'm not sure why you'd just want to put yourself out there as an energy whore!?! oh...sorry that was directed to Tyciol. seems like i keep stressing over again in this forum about "inviting" things into your life that you know nothing about.
(yes that's an assumption).
as RedWolfHealingDreamer said...once they're in they're in, and you won't have much say after that. yes you can turn it around, but part of it is psychic brain-washing to keep you in a position of dependence. you might think that it would be empowering to be a host, and that the vamp is dependent on you. NOT! you're the prey, and you can't be prey with out the pr editor...the need actually ends up on your end. trust me i know. trust me it's subtle sh*t!

i've noticed a drastic jump in membership, and all very young. this isn't surprising to me in relation to what i know is going on. how far should i go in warning the kids?!? it's not my place to limit. it's your life...you are free to do with it as you wish. i will stress though this isn't your parents house. you're not going to be able to be rebellious, do whatever the hell you want, act without common sense, and throw yourself into unknown territory...and then expect to be rescued after the fact. in this new world you're playing in...positive and protective is something you have to be absolutely vigilant in 24-7, as nasty and negative drips from everything in your path...show the slightest interest and you'll get what you ask for and it's up you to get yourself out alive.

i have nothing against vampires, negs, demons, etc...i have issue with the people that are so willing to give up their own path to be a pet, in exchange for the short end of the stick, but...they're going to feed anyway so i suppose that volunteers are doing the rest a favor.

333

[twitch]

->Full-blown psychic vampires are unable to process anything but the vital life energy of others.

But why? It doesn't make any sense. Why would taking energy from others (already contaminated with their feelings emotions thoughts traumas etc.) work for you but not energy from a pure (divine) source? It's like you could drink the water from the lake, but not from the spring. I don't get it??

[GOTHIKA]

I can also absorb energy from trees but do at times require some vital human energy.
I like plant energy because it is simple and untainted with emotions or complications.
When I absorb human energy I only keep what I desire and need by cycling the energy.
The negative stuff I simply expell from my system after proccessing it.

[patapouf]

There are many people who feeds on emotions of others and do not realize that the are doing this kind psy-vamp. process; I have met a tremendous amount of people being this way. It is not because they are psy-vamps necessiraly but because they ignorantly act this way and they do not realize that they make both themselves and others suffer because of it.

Take care,

[Souljah333]

it would be nice if the function was "purifying", which i completely believe it could be. psy-vamp could in fact be great healers, but they make no attempt at fixing their leaky vessel. take what you need, take the highest energy, and dump the junk...that's a sad and useless function. the worst and lowest form of human parasite. and there's suppose to be some romantic, sympathetic energy from the rest of us. we could all allow ourselves to be tattered and torn, but then who would we feed off...the children?!? it's not out of the ordinary to take a severe dysfunction and try to paint a "special" picture with it, but at the same time crying that it's a disability, and wanting to ride the fence...pisses me off. victim or power-monger...make up your mind.

what pisses me off more is that kids get caught up in the hollywood propaganda of it. if being fodder makes you feel special...so be it. if you find pleasure in sacrificing yourself then the world is your oyster. psy-vamps work as a reverse filter...taking the good stuff and cycling back the undesirable. i hold the position of "slayer", but not by choice. the numbers are increasing too rapidly and i for one will not lie down and give of myself completely. i have a much more productive function than that.
i didn't draw first blood, but i will exist as a counter balance if thats what it takes to level the playing field. i've meet a few extremely compassionate, highly intelligent vampires along the way, but they have a great code of ethics...this mutant, genetically weak off-shoot of the original blood-lusters is not a race i am into using my life force to propagate. it's one thing going out like a warrior at the hands of jedi, it's another thing altogether different to have some snot-nosed kid shove a gun in your face and expect you to feel privileged in the matter. sorry!

i'm sorry that y'all need to feed. i'm sorry that you believe your only choice is psychic cannibalism. i'm sorry that all of us believe we have to feed off something, and the world turns. i myself choose to retain my energy for healing work on the big picture. if i didn't have to waste my time slaying astral vamps...i'd be able to get a lot more accomplished that's for sure!

333

[GOTHIKA]

Souljah 333 wrote:

psi-vamps work as a reverse filter...taking the good stuff and cycling back the undesirable. i hold the position of "slayer", but not by choice. the numbers are increasing too rapidly and i for one will not lie down and give of myself completely. i have a much more productive function than that.
i didn't draw first blood, but i will exist as a counter balance if that's what it takes to level the playing field. I've meet a few extremely compassionate, highly intelligent vampires along the way, but they have a great code of ethics...this mutant, genetically weak off-shoot of the original blood-lusters is not a race i am into using my life force to propagate. it's one thing going out like a warrior at the hands of jedi, it's another thing altogether different to have some snot-nosed kid shove a gun in your face and expect you to feel privileged in the matter. sorry!

First of all I don't just take the good stuff and cycle back the undesirable. When I link with someone and receive any negative energy I simply release it from my system either sending it into the ground or into the air around me. Believe it or not there are psi vamps out there who are compassionate, intelligent, individuals myself being one of them. I have a code of ethics and the members of the House I belong to also follow a code of ethics.

I'm sorry that y'all need to feed. I'm sorry that you believe your only choice is psychic cannibalism. I'm sorry that all of us believe we have to feed off something, and the world turns. i myself choose to retain my energy for healing work on the big picture. if i didn't have to waste my time slaying astral vamps...i'd be able to get a lot more accomplished that's for sure!

Most psi vamps do have the disadvantage of having their energy run low so they feed but there always should be a code of ethics involved.
Some of us prefer to feed from our fellow psi's instead of the unawakened and non vampire's because we find the energy is much more refined.
I myself prefer a two way exchange during a link in which my energy merges with that of the other person involved and we both are receiving.
I for one am not a psychic cannibal but your prejudice towards my kind seems quite evident.

[GANAMOHA]

To Souljah: I am quite young. Even though I do not know much compared on a scale of what there is to know I am wise beyond my years. Even though many adolescents have been joining this site I feel that they join for many reasons already knowing of the good and bad. Though you are very well right how some blisfully unware souls subdue themselfs to things that cause them harm I think a lot of them already know a lot. most Psi-Vamps I have encountered anyway had known i felt what they were trying and backed of. Some. Though I had no problems I could easily protect myself. My body can feel even slight changes in energy around me. It can be usefull but at the same time I do see and hear a lot more than I want at times. All I am saying is that we are not all going to be so thoughtless to do something like donate ourselfs to this.

[GOTHIKA]

There are good vamps and there are bad vamps and its true that one should use extreme caution when approached by one.
They may not necessarily abide by an ethical code and not bother to restrain themselves while feeding.
If you allow one to do so it should be by someone you both know and trust.
Also its not always possible to fully shield oneself from a vampire doing an ambient feed ( feeding from a distance without contact).
If this is an unwelcome intrusion then one shouldn't permit it.
Even psi vamps can experience ill effects from another one feeding upon them if it is done without morals or taking precautions to prevent such.

[Souljah333]

maybe for the others that don't know a lot about vampires...you should enlighten them with "your" definition of "awakened". i think they'd be interested.

333

[Silver Incubus]

Feeding? more like stealing. Esp since with some effort you can get better energy from the source. And thinking you can be a vamp because it is cool(in your definition of cool) or appealing to you because the mystique of being a vampire is alluring, but real psy vamps, for the most part are people you don't want to be around cuz they drain you, consciously or not.

and more then likely its people who take a lot of psychic/mental abuse from another, so they need to get the energy. Its not a good thing.

[GOTHIKA]

Stagnant 333 wrote:

maybe for the others that don't know a lot about vampires...you should enlighten them with "your" definition of "awakened". i think they'd be interested.

The term Unawakened are those who are psi vamps but just don't know it yet.
The Awakened are vamps who know what they are and are active ones.
Believe it or not most psi vamps prefer to feed from their fellow psi's because the energy in both the Unawakened and in Non - Vampires tends to be stagnant due to proper maintenance.

[NeoSaturn]

I have an odd kind of thing. i generate my own natural energies, but if i please or need some more i can "borrow" enegry from people, and to a lesser extent plants and water.

[Van-Stolin]

Me as well.  My mate says that it is quite pleasurable as well.  I read up on it and various sources say that Kitsune (fox-demons) did this, feeding on various energies of nature and sexual energy.  It was suppouse to give them a feeling of pleasure and I get that as well.

A friend of mine how has japanese in his family said that I could have a fox spirit in me.  Hmm, pretty interesting you know.