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i_dont_know

I'm new here, so please forgive my ignorance in these matters.  I was reading several threads after my reply to a thread regarding being attacked while astral projecting and it made me think about how much of the human will to drive these negative entities or energies out is involved.  I'm not just saying the "Oh this is annoying I wish it/they'd leave" but the "GET OUT NOW OR BRING IT ON!" type of will...  the will to fight and stand your ground even if it means losing.  Does this make any difference or is it futile?  I apologize for my ignorance in this but I am very interested to know how this energy or entity(ies) react to this attitude.

CaCoDeMoN

In all of my OOBEs and my brother OOBEs that such atitude was present, it really scares negative entities away, but the best thing that can be done then is chasing and attacking them. The best place to attack them is their heart chakra, and always do it with intent not to chase off the entity, but to kill it and destroy it completely.
MEAT=MURDER.

Wronski Feint

Works for me, but the same attitude towards some negs just makes them mad.  So make sure you have the ablility to take them on.
"Come and See"
So I looked, and behold a dark angel.  And the name of him was Life, and Hell fell before him.
And power was given to him over the whole of the earth, to clense with mind, with sword, with light and by the love of the earth.

shadow_specter

Exactly, human will does drive em away.  Just make sure u can win (or risk gettin hurt).
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CaCoDeMoN

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Just make sure u can win (or risk gettin hurt).
It just what they want you to believe. In fact they can't hurt you at all during AP/OOBE, they only attack whey you are inside your body so you can't defend. Their only weapon is fear so don't be afraid. When you have OOBE you are much more powerful than inside your body, and that's why the negs will do EVERYTHING to scare you to stop your projection attempts.
MEAT=MURDER.

Scorpyn

Quote from: CaCoDeMoN...Their only weapon is fear so don't be afraid...
A while ago, my brother was bothered by something that woke him up every now and then in the middle of the night, keeping him paralyzed and terrified. I know that this sounds kinda like sleep/waking paralysis, but it wasn't (unless sleep/waking paralysis is caused by negs).

After a while, we went to our summerhouse and slept with only about 1m between us. Apparently he had been attacked one of the nights, and told me about it in the morning.

The next night, I was attacked. However - it wasn't the "wake up paralyzed and very very afraid" type of attacks. Instead, I felt a fear entering my body at my knee. I suppose that it thought it was safe to attack when my body was asleep - if I'm not mistaken I was in the trance state when the attack started.

Anyway, the fear entered my knee and started spreading slowly throughout my body. I tried fighting it, and after a reasonably short time I tried to just not accept the fear and simply refuse to be afraid. This worked great, and whatever it was disappeared.

I told this to my brother, and told him that if it happened again he should try to just not accept the fear. Well - it happened again, and the method worked great and afaik he was never bothered by it again :D

i_dont_know

Quote from: CaCoDeMoN
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Just make sure u can win (or risk gettin hurt).
In fact they can't hurt you at all during AP/OOBE...

I'm cross-posting something I wrote on a previous thread since I didn't get a response there and it is relevent here.

I'm new here and have only told 2 people in person about an experience I had about a year ago (mostly because I knew they wouldn't think I was crazy upon telling them). I was reading a book about Edgar Cayce and it gave some general instructions on meditation. Unfortunately, it seems they were for astral projection (I can elaborate more if asked). Anyway, I was in this state letting my mind wander from place to place around my room, apartment, etc. when this one night I felt like someone had thrown a blanket over my mind and body full of broken glass and rolled me up into it. It was an intense feeling of darkness and pain both physically and mentally. I tried to will this pain away as I brought myself out of the state I was in. I never tried it again out of fear of that experience, although prior to that I had enjoyed each experience (I projected for about a month) before that.

A couple months later I was asleep when I woke up suddenly and rolled over and I saw this form of a dark face with a twisted smile "fall" through my pillows and disappear. I was a bit frightened from it initially but I just shrugged it off as me coming out of the dream state. I've never seen the face or anything like it since.

I read in a few other threads about seeing flashes of shadows out of the corners of your eyes and I see this all the time. In the winter of '03-'04 when I would be, apparently, projecting I saw these wisps of fleeting shadows all the time in my daily routines like being at work, using the computer, etc. Lately, I don't see them often but it seems like I seem them more in the winter months. I guess I've just attributed them to seasonal depression or something.

Like I said, I'm new to all of this, so if I am using the wrong terminology or would like to know more I'd be glad to try to remember.

James S

Will power is no doubt important, provided it's pointed in the right direction. In the physical world, we have power over spirits - we are stonger then they are, so a little bit of will goes a long way here.

The more important concept you might want to consider here are the laws of "like attracts like"

Fear attracts fear, anger attracts anger, and joy attracts joy. If you don't wish to experience the negative aspects of the astral, remove any negativity from yourself, raise your energies and your emotions, and carry yourself into the higher lighter places.

Blessings,
James.

TheMadster

A couple of months ago I was attacked by a, well I call it Leprachaun because it looked like one.

This entity has tried to scare the pants off me and I stood my ground telling it that I was not afraid and they it can't harm me in any way and told it off. This entity told me that it will be back. This all happened while I was projecting.

Anyway, a couple of days ago I came home only to find one of my cats scared sh*tless. My cat is more relaxed again but is still on the look. I guess my friend is back- but I'm prepared  :twisted:

Yes, will power is a good thing  :wink:
TheMadster

NickJW

How do you find negative entities (on the astral) and how exactly do u attack them?

Nathan

well, when i have to defend myself. Sometimes its too much and I avoid OBE. Other times, Im about myself, and often they keep reappearing. so what I do is I speed up and fly around them in many different directions wrapping them up in eneergy. Or a similar attack is encasing a merkaba around them and then creating a forcefield around it, then sending them back to where they came from.

I know a few demons who are still stuck in permanent stasis because of that. All their buddies are laughing at them.

It works for me.

Hans Solo

It is all in your mind!  Your thoughts create them in focus 2.  I thought the same as you guys at first until I read Franks posts.  Now, I understand how silly I was being, and choose not to create them or even think about them.  Instead I attempt to phase into Focus 3.

Han
"Man, I just sprinted a mile and my heart chakra is going crazy!"

"Women only want me for my Focus 4"