possibility of physical immortality

[gdo]

Physical immortality is one thing, concious immortality is another.  A worthy goal would be to be able to remain concious as an integrated personality from body to  body.  It would mean having concious conrtol over the forces that form the levels of conciousness and the forces that make physical bodies

I do think that Matrieya is already an ascended personage.  


From what I understand of the term 'ascension', it is the ultimate refinement of the physical body to the extent that it may be taken up or discarded at will, conciously.

[Ben K]

retaining memory from body to body? I cant even remember stuff from 6 years ago, let alone a lifetime ago!

I believe losing these memories is a natural thing. much like memories of early childhood. its the same process.

[Psan]

Memories are never lost, they get hidden somehow.
We can recall each and every second of our current lives as if it happened just now.

[Ben K]

maybe you can but i could probably only do about 5% of my life.

[Psan]

I can recall perhaps <5% consciously.
On rare occasions some object or event triggers a recall, so vivid and detailed with colors and sounds, that it is enough to convince me that memories are never lost.

I'm sure many of readers must have had same experience.

[Ben K]

so i guess the real question is: are these memories erased after each physical lifetime? Does it even matter? You are obviously outside of physical "time" when you permanently lose physical focus, so whos to say that you are chronologically "after" your last physical lifetime?

Im a big fan of the "all lifetimes happen at once" type of thinking. Any memories of the past are simply bleed throughs of other physical focuses.

[Psan]

Ben,
Coincidentally I was reading something on Morphogenetic fields, where I found something which supports what I said :
From :http://twm.co.nz/shel_morfields.htm

In considering memory, it is helpful to begin by making a distinction between retention and recall. Retention is the ability of the mind to take in and store information while recall is the ability to bring a particular piece of information back to conscious awareness. How good is our retention? There is considerable evidence that our retention is much better than our normal recall would lead us to expect - indeed we may retain all of our experience. For example, under hypnosis, people regularly recall whole chunks of their past with considerable detail. Likewise brain stimulation experiments using tiny electrodes have enabled people to vividly relive random previous experiences with great accuracy. The limiting factor in "memory" thus seems to be recall.

So now that you've brought up the problem of losing memories after each reincarnation, I have a possible explanation and possibility that memories are not lost completely after reincarnation (assuming there is such thing as reincarnation).

During a lifetime, all experiences, perceptions and learning are stored in information fields called Morphogenetic fields. Nothing is wasted. In fact it is a great pool of collective memories, with a limited access to group memories for a particular individual.

When one is born again, he loses the ability to recall many of his own memories but is influenced by the pool subconsciously. It really depends upon the evolutionary status of an individual if he can recall anything from this pool upto the last detail. Thus it is not the loss of memories but the loss of ability to recall them consciously is responsible factor.

We all are familiar with our erratic recalling skills. Sometimes we forget a small number just when we need it urgently (eg ATM pin), sometimes a single word brings back a full song with all the music in its full glory.

[Psan]

The morphogenetic fields sounds like Akashic records. (just noticed )