Abillities in the astral world

shaolin · June 24, 2005, 09:23:28

Greetings all!

I have some questions, first when for the first time astral projecting, is it dangerous if you dont know how to do it very correctly? If your successful and make it to the astral world, is it easy to return if you feel uncomfortable, etc.?

Second question, what can you do when you AP? Can you make an imaginary world, like Dragonball Z, and Star Wars like a childish world? Can you in that DBZ world or Star Wars world transform to a "super sayian" or "use the force" (which is also very childish but fun ^^)? Is that possible to change the world into one own?

And if you cant change anything, can you explore this world? I mean i love the Scottish landscapes, can i "fly" there when i AP? If so, what is the difficulty level?

Thank you for answers.

Farewell.

Hans Solo · June 24, 2005, 10:34:47

In focus 2 it may be possible if you concentrate enough on this desired outcome.

Han
"super duper super sayan"

Heather B. · June 24, 2005, 11:04:34

That would be so awesome, to create an anime world! Or video game world! And then to live in it!

But I think it would take an awful lot of time and energy...

knightlight · June 24, 2005, 15:22:05

Quote"Women only want me for my Focus 4"

Thats hilarious han!

Hans Solo · June 24, 2005, 17:21:31

QuoteThat would be so awesome, to create an anime world! Or video game world! And then to live in it! But I think it would take an awful lot of time and energy...

wow.. slow down there. This "type" of thing is what is going on with Astral Pulse Island. About the anime world...that might take a GREAT deal of concentration (I am always hesitant to say it is impossible, ESPECIALLY in Focus 2).

For the concentration and time involved there are many REAL benefits you can accomplish in Focus 2. You are "playing" in the depths of your subconscious mind. I am sure there are some things you might want to change about yourself. I know when I am able to reach Focus 2 reliably, rather than sporadically, I will go into Focus 2 with blue print and a whole construction crew.

I will build a better me.

However, do what ever you want when you are there, but just get there.

Han

Lente · June 24, 2005, 18:13:37

Quote from: Hans Solo
QuoteThat would be so awesome, to create an anime world! Or video game world! And then to live in it! But I think it would take an awful lot of time and energy...

wow.. slow down there. This "type" of thing is what is going on with Astral Pulse Island. About the anime world...that might take a GREAT deal of concentration (I am always hesitant to say it is impossible, ESPECIALLY in Focus 2).

Might such a world not be somewhere in some focus already, after all alot of people did think about it.

For the concentration and time involved there are many REAL benefits you can accomplish in Focus 2. You are "playing" in the depths of your subconscious mind. I am sure there are some things you might want to change about yourself. I know when I am able to reach Focus 2 reliably, rather than sporadically, I will go into Focus 2 with blue print and a whole construction crew. I will build a better me.

However, do what ever you want when you are there, but just get there.

Han

Projector · June 25, 2005, 00:14:59

I suggest if you want to make your own world then you should be really bored in the astral casue there is alot to do!

You can turn into a super sayain if you want to as long as you know how to shapeshift properly.

I can use advanced TK in the astral you can count that as 'the force'

Dude you can fly anywhere if want to, but it would be easier and faster to teleport.

-The Projector-

shaolin · June 25, 2005, 09:37:40

Okay thanx for the replies

But i still dont get it, what is it you do there really? And how long does it take to be able to move and think/control your self easily in the astral world? I mean is it hard to fly and teleport, etc.? And if i lets say, teleport to the south pole, do i feel the cold? Is it the same place as in real life?

Ben K · June 27, 2005, 04:49:04

I had my first real lucid experiance this morning during a short 2 hour nap(the dream took much longer time, but only about 2 hours physical).

Anyway I remember I was dreaming about being at my summer cottage, and i was going to sleep. I decided to try phasing and soon enough as soon as i closed my eyes i experianced s slight vibrational tingle and I ended up inside a dream inside a dream lol.

Anyway I was lucid, but I couldnt control the dream so i was more an observer. But i do remember jumping 60 feet in the air and stuff just having a blast. I was amazed at how real it felt and how easy it was to do stuff. You literally think about doing it and it happens, its awesome!

anyway keep up your practice and dont believe ANYONE that says "you cant do that" because you should NEVER limit yourself. Anything you wish, assume you can achieve. Because its probably possible. GL!

Van-Stolin · June 27, 2005, 10:54:07

The Astral is just subjective to your mind. What ever you think basicly happens. If you thought that you were going to have to fight an army of demons, all of a sudden an army of demons would appear.

Basic things like movement are also determined by yourself. Just don't think so hard and let it flow and enjoy yourself.

Syro · June 27, 2005, 21:51:13

Or you could go to those worlds like spectraldragon was. If you can AP then he probably could help you

Nay · June 27, 2005, 23:00:46

Quote from: Van-StolinThe Astral is just subjective to your mind. What ever you think basicly happens. If you thought that you were going to have to fight an army of demons, all of a sudden an army of demons would appear.

Basic things like movement are also determined by yourself. Just don't think so hard and let it flow and enjoy yourself.

Couldn't agree more! Nicely said.

Nay

Projector · June 28, 2005, 01:05:17

I like that avatar Mod Nay it has alot of meaning..

Nay · June 28, 2005, 09:32:36

Thanks Projector, I think so too!

Nay

shaolin · June 28, 2005, 17:22:03

Hmm okay, but can you change time? Like if 1 minute goes outside the astral, and i want it to go 10 hours in the astral, is it so then?

Can i hear sounds? Can i feel the same way as in the physical world?

shaolin · June 28, 2005, 17:23:13

By the way Syro, what do you mean by spectraldragon and he can help me? =P

patty4150 · June 28, 2005, 23:52:36

Is there anyone on here with a more reasonable spin on this whole thing?

Anime? The island? The whole tone is that OBE is the "real thing"and that life is an illusion.

Well, in my experience, OBE can be as real as life, but no more so - and it *never* diminishes the importance of life. Often, OBE is more real than dreaming but not as concrete as real life.

And it is never as *stable* as "real life."

Is there anyone here who knows what I'm saying?

-Patty

Ben K · June 29, 2005, 11:36:17

what do you mean by OBE? phasing and the traditional OBE are 2 different experiances.

Shadowflame · June 29, 2005, 22:52:28

Shaolin- Yes, you can hear sounds in the astral. Whenever I project, I make it a point to speak out loud, even though there's no one around. My voice sounds the same except there might be just a slight echo to it.

As for "super powers" in the astral, I've succeeded in creating fire and ice, and have used teleportation. But I still can't fly, levitate, or walk through walls....yet. I've also tried climbing walls like Spider-Man once but couldn't do it.

Patty, I completely get what you're saying.

Hans Solo · June 29, 2005, 23:19:45

QuoteIs there anyone on here with a more reasonable spin on this whole thing?

Anime? The island? The whole tone is that OBE is the "real thing"and that life is an illusion.

Well, in my experience, OBE can be as real as life, but no more so - and it *never* diminishes the importance of life. Often, OBE is more real than dreaming but not as concrete as real life.

And it is never as *stable* as "real life."

Is there anyone here who knows what I'm saying?

Patty-

Astral Pulse is THE most rational site concerning this topic on the net. What we are saying is that in Focus 2 anything is possible because Focus 2 is in one's subconscious mind. You ARE NOT "out of body" like the mystics used to think. This is a quick and dirty definition, but more on Focuses and phasing can be found in the Permanet Astral Topics section.

Focus 3 is the "common" area of consciousness where one can meet deceased realitives etc (we are not talking about this area). In focus 2 you are only limited to your mind

Han

Syro · July 01, 2005, 01:18:46

Long Story We spectral dragon and his friend wonder if you could AP into final fantasy or some other fictional world. and his friend was righting a story So SD got the idea of aping into his story and it work But the thing was that SD meet characters know things and visit places that is friend had not introduced yet or told any one about or even written down so we kind of conclude that every that we have materializes in the astral realm or that writers channel info from places that really exist And he was able to visit places like the Final fantasy world and Mario World and star wars and such. they had a topic about it a while ago

Mustardseed · July 02, 2005, 11:31:21

Ok Now I ain't no mystic, never claimed to be one. I would however like to ask all you guys to explain me something.

You say that Monroe Bruce and others who you now term Mystics were wrong, no such thing as out of the body. 3 years ago when you were all just experimenting and someone came with such a claim he was met with ridicule, but now you have the very convenient Phasing Model (thanks Frank) to lean to and now suddenly the "Mystics" are out and you, all the "more enlightened people" rule. Your model of explanation the latest and most progressive model is the "in" thing.

It seems logical to me however, that your model, your belief system or non belief system (which is just another form of belief albeit negative in nature), is just another model to explain something we seem to not understand. What makes you right Frank or Adrian and whoever, and what makes Monroe Bruce etc wrong wrong. If you have the holy grail please let us know. Why should we believe a word of what you say, are you not just another guy with all the answers another Mystic trying to sell his "charms" packaged in nice books fancy titles and catchy advertising, and as I asked in some other thread, how does this attitude of selling the truth look on your karmic records.

I am seriously interested in this debate and I am curious if you will take this debate or delete my post. I know that whoever posts here are not allowed to question or criticize the moderators- so lets see. What do you think Nay Gandalf and all you others ................. how are we doing on the pulse. ?? Still fighting for the truth??? or what.......

Regards Mustardseed

Van-Stolin · July 03, 2005, 03:03:53

They are saying that what we orginally thought was out of body isn't quite out yet. Focus 2 is just your subconcious mind. A safe haven if you will and it allows you to go from one plane of existence to the next with little trouble.

Focus 3 is truely out of body, but it is mearly a place for spirits to gather, either those that are lost or just recently dead. At least this is to my understanding.

Then every focus beyond that goes farther into the astral.

Mustardseed · July 03, 2005, 05:34:16

Well interesting but that's not how I understand phasing, from my understanding it is just a enlargement of consciousness, no exit is possible. Enlighten me if I am wrong!!

Regards Mustardseed

Almost Solid · July 03, 2005, 05:44:43

Well, you know what? This is *poof*

Someone knows what I mean, lol.

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