astral projection while in jail...

[izalco]

I just had to do 30 days in jail for a minor offense... and noticed weird dreams...

talking with people in jail, in the topic that everyone always has weird dreams in jail, and in the dreams, sometimes people your in the jail with have dreams of you in it, and vise versa...

my question is, are we communicating with these people? Like I had a dream that me and another inmate were riding a train in the city, nothing much. weird though. was that really the inmate?

And someone said to me, hey I had a dream we were in a swamp with some kind of snakes, and that I pushed him into the snake... I dont remember my dream that night but does that mean that i was there?

but if I see people and interact with people I know in my dreams, is it really them? like I had dreams interacting with people in jail, is it them, or my mind? if so, shouldn't they have the same dream as me, if we are communicating???

this makes me wonder if its all just a subconscious thing, that we are not on some plane, because if that were the case, we would really interact and we would say yeah I had the same dream...not the case...

so, if there really were a RTZ, or an astral plane, why wouldn't we all be there? if its a place that exists, why cant we all say yeah I remember that?

[Forw4rd]

No... All these things are happening while we are asleep in the REAL world.. Believing that there are external influences and appearances by real people in your experiences is an insult to logic and almost every area of physics

Why?

Because the astral plane is just a level of consciousness and internal focus, it exists in each of our minds because it's a human capability, not a place.

[CaCoDeMoN]

No... All these things are happening while we are asleep in the REAL world.. Believing that there are external influences and appearances by real people in your experiences is an insult to logic and almost every area of physics

I don't care about offending science and all other things. I had shared dream with my brother, and we both remembered it. Every detail was the same. In the most dreams people you meet are only copies created by mind, but in some they aren't. The best way to be  sure is to ask what dreams they had this night.

[David Warner]

I was reading in a book that a majority of people who spend time in jail for longer sentencing are proficient at oobe's because they can't go anywhere except within their physical boundaries. It would be interesting to run a survey on this.

Imagine if everyone in the world knew about astral projection, could project consciously and what would happen today? Maybe we would finally have world peace or blow oursheves up.

Being able to astral project is a gift from God and something that is given to us but have to work hard to achieve it. In life, as we know if nothing is for free - we'll in the same boat and it takes time to develop and be proficient.

tvos

[OrionsDream]

The Dream World, or Dream Walking- entering other ppl's dream. Cacodemon, you two were probably not sharing a dream, but one of you was in the other's.
I heard it's dangerous sometimes though, because when you're in someone else's dream, they have control, not you.
If you stop breathing in a dream, you stop breathing in reality too.

[izalco]

I was reading in a book that a majority of people who spend time in jail for longer sentencing are proficient at oobe's because they can't go anywhere except within their physical boundaries. It would be interesting to run a survey on this.

Imagine if everyone in the world knew about astral projection, could project consciously and what would happen today? Maybe we would finally have world peace or blow oursheves up.

Being able to astral project is a gift from God and something that is given to us but have to work hard to achieve it. In life, as we know if nothing is for free - we'll in the same boat and it takes time to develop and be proficient.

tvos

something happens in jail... i would talk to inmates about OBe's, and some would come forward and say yes, they have them, but are scared to go outside for fear of losing their bodys. Some say they have dreams of flying, or 'falling down the stairs, but not falling....floating"

Its strange because in jail, you meet people from all walks of life. many people look down on people who are in jail, like they are scum. but lets not forget that jesus spent his last days on earth in jail...

anyways, the dreams people have are strange in jail... everyone has strange dreams they say... But are the dreams just dreams or something else? do we interact with these people is what i want to know...



I wonder because of the interaction in dreams. One thing I notice was strange.... I was in an open dorm, maning no jail cells... heard someone talking in their sleep at night, and as he talked, someone else on the other side of the dorm would talk also.. almost like they were communicating... strange, but I also think more research should be done into this.

[David Warner]

Izalco,

How long were you in jail and were you able to converse with inmates on a reasonable level about their projections? Did you try to talk with them about AP and how to control and not to be afraid?

Why do you say that Jesus spent his last days on earth in jail? What did he do wrong? He was nailed to the cross because the stupidity, fear, and God. - Well, thats another discussion of a different topic.

So did jail change your perspective in life and help you reach for your goals? When you were in jail, were you able to sleep all day and project?

Tvos

[izalco]

Izalco,

How long were you in jail and were you able to converse with inmates on a reasonable level about their projections? Did you try to talk with them about AP and how to control and not to be afraid?

Why do you say that Jesus spent his last days on earth in jail? What did he do wrong? He was nailed to the cross because the stupidity, fear, and God. - Well, thats another discussion of a different topic.

So did jail change your perspective in life and help you reach for your goals? When you were in jail, were you able to sleep all day and project?

Tvos

I was in their for 30 days. I got on the topic of Aping with a leader of the bloods gang in NY. Once others heard that this gang member was talking about weird dreams, other people came forward. I was in a DWI dorm, so it was friendly. coffee 3 times a day, a program dorm that they say wasn't jail, even though it still is, its the best place to be while doing time, no fights, ect..

Reason being, a friend of mine died who was a blood member, he was young and before he died, he came to my house. he explained to me he had a weird dream he got killed. He said he saw everything. I kind of cut him off that night, and forgot about it. Until about a week later he was killed. I didn't remember about our conversation until I saw him laying in his coffin dead, i had to leave the funeral early because I was scared and bugged out.

Anyways, the blood member I talked to in jail also knew the kid, and was bugged when I told him he had a dream before he got killed.

You must understand, some of these "gang members" are not bad people at all. they are just born into poverty and join these "gangs" because thats whats "in" around where they live. They are just like you and me. Society labels them as such, but they are not bad people, and they have some of the same experiences as anyone else, but just dont understand because they dont have the internet and such. he was interested and wanted to read a book on it, so I said i would send him one...

reason I said jesus spent his last days in jail is because in jail, you meet alot of nice and interesting people, granted there are some crazy people, but they arent put in with non violent people. And, not everyone is jail is guilty....

All I know is that dreams in jail are weird, and maybe people should research them...

[mactombs]

Imagine if everyone in the world knew about astral projection, could project consciously and what would happen today? Maybe we would finally have world peace or blow oursheves up.

Yes, I've thought about this. I believe it would make a huge difference in the world, and I like to think about how. I doubt we would blow ourselves up ... I think in some ways, it would be similar to if the majority of people in the world had access to the internet, could play games together, and so forth.

All I know is that dreams in jail are weird, and maybe people should research them...

I agree. It sounds fascinating. And I do think that maybe people communicate with each other in dreams. Or maybe they do it all the time on another level, but in dreams the non-physical communication is more apparent.

[Steve 2B]

mactombs,

Yeah I was thinking about the future of computer games and AP combined also, so if you were killed in the game(So to speak) you'd get zapped back to the physical. I wonder if that gizmo that Frank mentioned would be capable of doing something like that?

Cheers,

Steve