NEED HELP: How to make mana directly?

[metaphysics]

Nice post, but it sure confused me - I don't really know about manna, is it just another name for energy? If so, I think I should point out, materializing objects involves shifting into other dimesions to some degree, or so I'm told by some reliable sources. And where do you learn all about this stuff? Is there a website that I'm missing?

[pod3]

Well, not being much in tune with the spiritist set,  I was trying very hard not to use the word "ectoplasm," but that was the general idea. I didn't want to communicate the idea of taking stuff from my body as this is never necessary in the case of energy. Also, there are cases of spiritis leaving this sort of stuff in patterned snail tracks from energy directly.

If that energy can be turned directly to fire, ice, etc, then it would be turned to earth, etc. What sort of sensations should I expect in changing energy directly to substance?

As for the dimensional shift technique, I can look into a picture, artistic or mental, like one would through a clear tidepool. I would try to use a ki shell around such a object as the shell can be manipulated mentally, but the shell usually must have a material aspect to it in order to work.

Any ideas on either technique?

[Tom]

There are some thoughts on materializing objects in this book I found, but I have not gotten the ideas to work and do not know how seriously to take them. It calls this "precipitating" things and it is based on using thoughts to create a pattern and light to fill in the pattern. Then it is made denser to the point of being physical.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0916766683/qid%3D1038356974/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-7793269-9945449

[Kodemaster]

quote:Originally posted by metaphysics:
Nice post, but it sure confused me - I don't really know about manna, is it just another name for energy?

Mana is the term for energy in the game "Magic the Gathering".

Jeni

[the_demigod]

actually, "mana" is the term used by the Kahuna's of Hawaii for THEIR definition of the energy.

[pod3]

*Maybe I just need better advice on turning aura into elemental energies! How do I use aura to gather mana?

No, I don't believe I could have used a better word than mana. I am referring to the substance invoked in order to form wraiths, psychic mists, and other apportisms. Kahunas (Hawaiian Huna practitioners) and nonaffiliated metaphysicists both believe that anything we think of has a fiber connecting it to us. Those fibers are not merely energetic but contain some sort of more subtle matter - like a fine ectoplasm. The ectoplasm is mana, I think. What is it? It is referred to as though it was more refined than normal matter, but it is primordial. Materially speaking, the simplest forms of life, blobs of cytoplasm, are preceded by even simpler living stuff like this mana. I have heard it referred to elementally due to it's primordial aspect, on the same level as fire, wind, ice, earth, and spirit.

Suppossedly, this is concentrated in order to form materializations, because it can take on the form of any material. If you start with stable mana, the effect is permanent once an energetic singature sets in.

Solidity is only a physical property of an object. Causing a solid spot in the air will only make the air hard. Hardness is not enough, just one property we can give mana.

How do I use aura to gather mana?

[pod3]

Sorry, Tom. I read the full product description for "Saint Germain on Alchemy: Formulas for Self-Transformation" and ... yikes! I have no problem with the opinion of the influence of the Beatle's (who only added  to an already ongoing problem), but the person speaking of the  transmutation of my personality just doesn't get it. Alchemical terms were encoded, SCIENTIFIC processes.

If anything, mana would correlate to the philosopher's stone, which was supposed to be as the root of a tree bearing many fruits, one of which is gold.

What this has to do with interdimensional phenomena is beyond me. The concentration of the sort of images seen in psychometry merely clarifies them,  then emboldens them. Try it. Think of warmth in a certain place. You could even make others around feel it. Now imagine matter? What is it?

Apparently, the primordial building block is what I have been calling mana. Therefore, the energy of mana needs to be concentrated in order to form material. How?

[Donna]

quote:Originally posted by pod3:

What this has to do with interdimensional phenomena is beyond me. The concentration of the sort of images seen in psychometry merely clarifies them,  then emboldens them. Try it. Think of warmth in a certain place. You could even make others around feel it. Now imagine matter? What is it?

Apparently, the primordial building block is what I have been calling mana. Therefore, the energy of mana needs to be concentrated in order to form material. How?

Hi Pod,
Check this out....
http://ascension2000.com/DivineCosmos/00.htm
Ginzburg asserts that an object becomes "pure field" as it increases up to light speed. However, there is solid evidence that there are different vibratory levels of aether, and we therefore conclude that as an object is accelerated towards the speed of light, either by linear motion, internal vibration or related energetic action, the missing energy and mass is simply displaced into a higher vibratory level of aether. In this book we shall refer to these levels as densities. As one example, if you put pressure on a beach ball by slowly pushing it into water, you can gradually move it from being surrounded by air to being surrounded by water, which is denser. When you release the pressure that you placed on the beach ball, the higher density of the water will cause it to pop back into the lower-density atmosphere once more. You will see that nothing in the basic form of the beach ball has changed. Though this is a rather crude analogy, it is by far the best one to explain many anomalies that we will discuss throughout this book.



Certain scientists such as Dr. A.M. Mishin, Dr. Harold Aspden, Dr. Nikola Tesla and John Keely have all independently discovered that the aether is sub-divided into different levels of density. From these findings, we know that the qualities of matter and energy will be different in each density, leading to changes in the basic "laws" of physics within each level. We shall touch briefly upon their discoveries to put our discussion in the proper context.



First of all, Dr. A.M. Mishin of St. Petersburg, Russia conducted extensive measurements over long periods of time in his laboratory, which showed that the aether simultaneously exists in different states, and the state that you will detect is dependent on what type of turbulent disturbance that you create. These findings were established through measurements taken by auto-oscillating electromechanical systems similar to some of Kozyrev's designs, with an undisclosed "added component" that was more suited to detecting torsion waves from biological systems as opposed to inorganic systems. With these measurement devices and techniques, Mishin could detect:

I have been wading through this one and there are some serious new theories  physics here.
Donna

[pod3]

I understand the beach-ball allegory fully. Surface tension is to water as matter is to spirit. I still  need to identify the essense of materiality in order to make more!

Yes, all particles can be plotted on two dimemsional coordinates of space and time on a sheet of spacetime. In space-time, the phase conjugation of quanta  is only the result of something akin to the Doppler effect, and perhaps everything could not only be made of the same particles, but the same PARTICLE.

To my fellows, I suggest the reading of Keely's laws of vibrational physics. You will be able to draw many correlaries between these and metaphysics. Indeed, many of the mentioned scientists drew from metaphysics.

To further disect, the basic quantum could be made of nothing but pure, circular motion. A  path of energy chasing potential, the fundamental particle is like a little yinyang. Creating these little yinyangs to be real still requires an element of tangeability that I have obviously not been using.

I am afraid the dimensional-shifting is useless to me without any specific techniques. For me, interdimensional windows (different than doorways) appear all over the place. I would merely have to reach in as one would pick up something out of a clear puddle of water. As far as I know, the special properties of this primordial mana/ectoplasm are about the only way I can. Sure, we can imagine an object specified for instruction in a sort of highlighting of energy, but this stuff is sort of bland without the material aspect.

ANY ADVISE WHATSOEVER ON DRIECT MATERIALIZATIONS OF SPIRIT MATTER WOULD BE SO GREATLY APPRECIATED!

[Tom]

That is what the book I put the link to is about, amongst other things. It has a nine step process and several chapters on the subject. It is a thick book and it tries to cover many things. By transmuting the personality, it is focussing on removing limiting beliefs and negative emotions. It is specific to beliefs and emotions which interfere with the ability to affect matter (such as removing flaws from gemstones) and creating matter. What I do not know is if the techniques work and it is just that I am not ready for them or if the techniques just plain do not work.

[kakkarot]

tom: could you please elaborate on the aether. i have heard about it in my physics class, but only in passing. it was then explained as a theoretical gas that permeated all space, was completely solid, and yet at the same time, completely malleable. or something like that. now obviously, this description cannot be true on the physical level and i would have a hard time believing it on a spiritual level as this description is. so if you could explain a little better, i might be able to get a better understanding, and i may be able to help (though it's more than likely that i won't be able to, but it would be nice to see).

thanks.

~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets

[Tom]

The idea was that like sound, light should not be able to travel in a vacuum without something to vibrate. (From Star Trek, the Klingons, "In space no one can hear you scream.") In order to find it, a description was obtained for something which would allow light to travel from the sun to us here on earth through the vacuum of space. It should be insubstantial enough that it would not slow the passage of the planets or else the friction would slow the planets and the orbits would decay. I'm not sure about why it was supposed to be rigid. The ether of physics was disproved. I don't recall the details. Now there is another idea that light is the vibration of higher spatial dimensions.

The formula I read for materialization was based on gathering light into a pattern of thoughts and causing the pattern to accumulate more energy until it becomes tangible. I have not succeeded so obviously either I do not understand the formula or it does not work. It could go either way at this point.

[pod3]

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My consciousness is clear enough to perform psi. I would only like to know where to direct it from someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

Where online are detailed steps for creating specific materializations, such as those of ectoplasm?

[kakkarot]

woah, calm down pod3.

yeah, i hate it when people make you buy their books and then tell you nothing, but hey, if they are making you buy something, go elsewhere. any info that is worth finding has been posted by another (somewhere) for free, or would be if someone asked for it.

and actually, as to adding more and more energy to something to make it solid... i keep feeling like i could do that to make a sword if i had enough energy, and enough control over the energy, but there is definately something else done at the end of the process. something like modifying the energy's base pattern so that it then "belongs" in the physical plane. hard to explain with text, but anyone familiar with changing energy from one form to another should be able to pick up on what i am saying --> instead of changing  the energy into another form of energy, change it into a solid pattern of energy that then becomes physical in nature.

naturally, you would need a lot of energy for this to happen, and the reason why is because you can't just outline an object with energy and then will it into being; you have to have an amount of energy that, when converted into matter, would have enough structure to stay together during the transforming process.

so you need both great energy and great skill in manipulating that energy.

of course, all of this is only hypothetical until i can try it. and on a slightly side-note here: i think i am finally getting used to the energy here in calgary. over the past few days i have been able to absorb energy fairly well. it doesn't feel like the energy of my home city, so that is probably why i had i hard time with it. but oh well, things seem to be getting better there. still don't have a TON of energy, but i no longer need fear being completely energy starved.

happy forming to everyone!

~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets

[pod3]

I am energy-aware enough that I can produce many tangeable effects, but I seem to be missing something about materiality in a few of my experiments.

What psychic techniques are there for crystallyzing the light, invoking many, apportisms, causing materializations, etc? Can you give my willpower that added zing that creates it materially?

Through extensive experiments, here are some assumptions I operate on, currently: Energy can be willed into existence rather than taken from my body by spirits. Energy is directly transferrable to elemental substance. Fire, ice, electricity, gravity. Mana is elemental - something to the effect of  "opacity." At least, it is opaque to the energies of my molecules and so can be felt, moved. It is opaque to photons, which bouce off. Am I headed in the right direction?

Manna is a clean, matte white, not emanating or absorbing any color. Not hot or cold when stable in that it is neither generating or absorbing energy. How to make it on a basis as dependable as my other faculties?