communique on sexuality

[Lighthouse]

makes sense to me...

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Kerri

[narfellus]

i like that theory, makes sense. And ties it to genetics.

[Lickerish]

Hmm, I never thought of that before and a very interesting theory for sure. I myself am bi sexual and attracted to members of both sexes.
But I don't just look at it in a sexual way because one can love another person as a person regardless of their sex.

[Rastus]

Generally speaking, homosexuals don't sexually reproduce.  There is some, but not like heterosexual.  Statistically, if homosexuality is hereditary, then it would have breed out of humans a very very very long time ago.

Enter the spirit theory.  More homosexual women reproduce than men.  why?  I think because the urge to be a mother is stronger than to be a father, but thats just me.  And, I beleive the ratio of homosexual women to men is 3:1?  That can be looked up online.

So that would mean what?  Spritually the attraction to 'female' is stronger than male?  I had a deep thought but lost it, now I'm going to have to meditate on it []

Oh, my wife is bi-sexual, and to her its just natural.

[pod3]

Though strictly homo males have varying levels of libido, their goals seem romantic. Regardless of the cause, they are seeking emotional support, which they can't get from a female. I'm a tall, bearded, loud, mesomorph (like a giant version of the "Lord of the Rings" troll) and have only been hit-on by very masochistic, submissive types who hurt themselves physically and emotionally in unimagineably creative ways. I think this is telling, whether the person in question is pitching or recieving.

Lezzies, when not performing for an audience, are also said to be mostly into caressing, etc. When I get together with them, they report to have satisfied eachothers' emotional needs. Confidence and indentity issues are obviously in play here, too.

Not to pass judgement, as I am as crude as the brute you may have imagined, but I call it what it is as I encounter it.

Any actual LesBiGays care to comment on this for themselves?

[krmason]

A couple of months ago I was driving home when suddenly I had a thought shoved into my head. I remember I was not thinking about anything, just letting my mind go blank(and trusting that I would be alerted if something was happening in the road ahead of me) when this whole theory of sexuality popped into my head.

I was just wondering what you guys thought of it. Please note that I am in no means any kind of deep thinker or philosipher so I know that this was placed into my thoughts.

It goes like this:

The human body, when it is created, serves only the physical. All emotions, desires and egos are contained within the spirit and much that is perceived as being learned at infancy is actually learned in a past life.

In the case of sexuality, this too is passed to a person by their past lives. But please note that in past lives you do not keep the same gender. Spirits are gender neutral and assume the sexuality of the body given.

In the case where a spirit has inhabited a female body for multiple journeys, then moves into a male body, that spirit may still remember being a female and may be attracted to males. The same is true vice versa. This is the cause for Homosexuality. The more lives the spirit has lived as a female, the more the spirit will think it is female, even though it is in a male body and vice versa.

If a spirit lives one time in a female body, then moves to a male body, the spirit may feel attracted to the opposite sex, but may have some intrest in its own sex.

Spirits who have lived in multiple lives as the same sex have true hextosexual feeling and no feeling for the same sex.

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Any opinions on this? I am still debating it myself...

[maddutchman]

I had done a little research in to this some time ago , I'll try to sum up my theories as quick a possible, not necessarily my views , but this is what has been put out there-

In the cycle of multiple incarnations, it is apparently broken up so that over various lifetimes we have;
gender  preference
Male gender-       heterosexual
Female gender-   heterosexual
Male gender-       bi- sexual
Female gender-   bi- sexual
Male Gender -     Homo sexual
Female Gender - Homo Sexual
Male gender-      androgyny
Female Gender - androgyny

obviously not always in that order. There are occasional exceptions to the rule according to karmic dealings, and how we need to balance our energies.
I've read that people involved in true alchemy, once they have the realization of dealing with emotional balance, also start taking on a androgynous, or bisexual leaning.
I've noticed that over time since becoming more spiritually aware, that I've tended to have an increase in feminine energy, and taking on more of a bi-sexual leaning.

I've noticed from a personal view (in a very general sense) that really macho males tend to partner with really feminine ladies, semi androgynous partners with the same, and vice versa,. I think homosexuality works a little differently, haven't had much experience there.
I think we tend to find and marry up with partners that balance out our masculine/feminine energies.
i,e  male with 80% masculinity and 20% femininity will partner with female with 80%femininity and 20% masculinity.

A male friend once told me that he had a past life regression where he remembered himself as a gay roman soldier, and he himself is bi-sexual. not sure whether this is a carrying over trait from a past life though.
If this were the case there should be more bi-sexual people living now than any time in history ?

[jonesy]

Whoa, sorry I have to reply but that is a good concept but wayyyyy off base.

I am new here but will post as much as my schedule will allow. Please bear with me as my views are a lot different than most. Many of my explanations take a lot more than the forums here leave room for but I will try to make them as brief as possible without the lengthy disertations.

Before I go off on this subject, this is an excerpt from one of my tangents. I think that is important to give the reader a little background before going into the complexities of the human spirit. One should understand what psychic energy is and how it is transferred and how it relates to the genders of humans. Quite simply, psychic energy is the one substance that holds everything together. It is what makes us who we are. It is the energetic force of the creator that we use to raise our energetic consciousness to become one with the creator once again.

It is the currency for commerce throughout the universe and it is not to be underestimated by those who have no clue to the ways of these matters. For everyone uses psychic energy whether they wish to or not. They also crave that which they cannot see, touch, taste, smell, or hear. Psychic phenomenon in the open state of mind (not confined to the frequency (freaky) barrier) is as common as any of the other five senses that we take for granted. We, being stuck within the confines of the freaky barrier, are only now just beginning to realize the full extent of our capabilities as the barrier drops. Yes I did say crave. Without psychic energy being transferred between people there would be no sexual attraction or will, want, or desire to procreate.

In the beginning (I love this part ... in a deep Charlton Heston kind of voice) in the beginning god created the heavens and the earth etc. and in those immortal words of Jerry Sienfeld... yada yada yada. We do however need to go a little further than that. In the beginning the Els went against the master plan of the creator of all that is by creating man prior to the will of the creator. Oops. For going against the will of the creator, the Els (Elohim) were all given colours (waveforms or frequencies).  This was done in order to have it known to all of the others the malevolency or heartfelt intent to and for the creator. The colours labeled each El and was an indicator of who did this barbaric act out of love and which had other plans. But as we say here...once the damage is done, lets work with it and make the best of a bad situation.

Each El has its own way of dealing with the splitting of the ego. Ego being soul and not that of personal self-aggrandizement. Each ego, as a whole, is the proverbial yin and yang of ancient Chinese philosophy. The positive and negative if you will. The yes and no the front and back the male and female. (Get the picture).

The female energies are the gatherers of psychic energy. This is one explanation why it is more natural feeling that women can kiss each other goodbye (and why your 3 to 1 ratio explanation exists) yet most men won't. It is also why men wolf whistle at most women yet women usually refrain from machismo testostronic outbursts.

This will start the explanation of the soul progression and male female exchanges of bodies. The ego was initially split into two parts some were equal parts but then others, depending on the dictates of the El, were split one male to 1-7 females, depending on whose god, or El (elohim) you are a part of. (some Elohim permit the exchange and inhabitation of opposite bodies to souls and some do not.) This makes sense knowing that women are the gatherers of psychic energy. How best to get back to becoming one with the creator again than to have more than one soul mate gathering psychic energy in order to do so.

Psychic energy is transferred trough emotions. Love, hate, joy, fear, etc. Sexual contact between two people is the most efficient way of transferring this energy. However, extreme emotional states is another. This is some of the reasons that spousal abuse occurs. One partner or the other has stopped feeding the other enough energy to keep up the addiction. So the abuser does things in order to evoke a reaction out of the other. Some it manifests in fear factors and physical abuse. Others in sexual abuse, and still others in emotional abuse.

This writing can go in many directions from here so I will just add that this is by no means a full explanation to the subject at hand. That would take pages and more than likely try the patience of many readers.

Know within yourself what is right and wrong for these are just the opinions of a madman....

[maddutchman]

Im gathering you are posting more to explain your point, didn't get too much of your explanation within that post but anyway, quick Question


You've mentioned....

In the beginning the Els went against the master plan of the creator of all that is by creating man prior to the will of the creator.

How is it possible for anyone/anybeing to go against the will of the creator being that the creator has control over all creation? Sure the Creator's given us free will, but I've always been under the impression that the Elohim are direct messengers and carriers of God's divine will.  How is that possible for them to create anything without God's knowing??

[jonesy]

Good morning and a great question.

The answer is within your question. As simplistically as I can explain it in 3 dimensional terms we have free will because of the actions of the Els. Their free will was stripped from them because of this action and therefore the Creator of all that is allowed their creations the same freedom of choice to show them the frustrations and error of their (premature) actions.  

The Els are the direct messengers and carriers of the Creators will! One needs to ask why allow this to happen in the first place. You asked why the Creator would allow being that he/she/it (please forgive the reference of gender) knows all and is all? Mankind and the human being were always in the Creators plan, The Els just jumped the gun a little. Knowing everything there is to know is one thing... experiencing it is another. There is a book called "Conversations with God"(actually a 3 book series) that does a great job explaining this aspect.

As I said before, these kinds of discussions are usually 2 and 3 hours long in person. It is difficult to get across vast amounts of information on this kind of forum. The writing would take pages upon pages to get across the proverbial meaning of life :O)

I have a few things that I write called  "Ramblings of a Madman" they are far from complete or edited... more in tangent form, but they do explain things a little more. There is also a progression of energy within the writings. They need work to complete explanations but if you would like I have no problem sending them to you.

Hope this helped a little.

[maddutchman]

makes more sense to me now, thanks jonesy

[jonesy]

No worries mate,

This is what I meant by taking the time and effort to explain a thought in it entirety. Something that I must admit I am bad at not fully doing myself. Thank you for the comments.

Jonesy