OBE or Lucid Dream?

[auraseer]

Hi,

quote:Originally posted by auraseer:
Could this have been a real-time OBE or a Lucid dream?

Can someone please answer my question as I posted this topic a while ago with no response.

Cya,
auraseer.

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[auraseer]

Hi,
Is there anybody out there?...
Please, please answer my question.

Cya,
auraseer.
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[Tisha]

lucid dream . . . OBE . . . in the long run they are different ways of describing the same thing . . . the only difference is in your level of consciousness.

in your dream, did you know that you were dreaming?  
were you in total control of what was happening?
did you think about what you were doing while you were doing it?
was it like waking awareness, i.e., you could feel your body, smell, taste, hear just like ordinary waking reality?

or, did you gain realization of it only upon awakening?  

based upon what you wrote, I lean on the side of "lucid dream," but in the end, the only one who can make the call is you.

keep dreaming . . .
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[auraseer]

Hi,
Answers to your questions:

1. I knew that I was dreaming
2. I was in total control of what was happening. It was like I was in my physical body still, but I wasnt.
3. I was always thinking what I was doing.
4. It was like being in my physical body. I could smell, taste, touch. But I could also do astral stuff(e.g. fly). The other people had flesh and bone, but their bodies were hazy and translucent.

Cya,
auraseer.

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[Dumai]

Auraseer,

Have you had many lucid dreams?  If you say you knew you were dreaming, then it most likely was just that, a lucid dream.  There's alot of gray area between the two.  I assume if you were out in astral it would not feel like any other dream you've ever had.  I've only OBE'd once consciously, and it was when I awoke from a dream.

There are so many strange levels of consciousness in dreams that aren't OBE, however.  I go into heightened awareness states where my self sort of dissolves and I see white light (alot of times brought about by dream stress, after I let go and still my mind).

Lucid dreaming is still quite an accomplishment, I feel that if I had more of them then I could have OBE's as well,

Good luck!

Gordon

[jodinastar]

i lucid dream ocassionally 2, its the coolest. only prob is i often dislike what is happening (in the dream) so i change it, but im a perfectionist and the dream rarely finishes cos i mess about fine tuning 1 small part. does this make sense? please add if u have any idea wot im on about.

[shaman]

A lucid dream is a dream in which you know you are dreaming. However you passed from the "awake" state to the dream "state" by loosing conciousness, I mean you fall asleep and then dream and realize you are in a dream.

An OBE is when you pass from the awake state into the dream state without loosing consciousness: I mean you are awake and then as you are falling asleep and dreaming you have complete consciousness of what is happening to you and remember all the details and sensation of what your body/mind felt as you were passing from awake to dream/lucid dream/ astral. What happens often is that you have a control OBE and are getting our of your body, etc.., but then all that turns into a dream and eventually you awake in the morning. That is an OBE, not a lucid dream. Though of course one could claim that they are the same, however OBE means that you keep you conciousness as you get out of your  body.

[beavis]

That is a small difference between what you describe as OBE and dream. If you're in control or not, its still the same place.

[auraseer]

Hi,
I had a 'dream' last night. I could do what I wanted. Like, if I wanted to walk forwards, i'd walk forwards. Here is the dream of that I can remember.

I was in a big hall(and I mean BIG), and for some reason there were ropes hanging from the ceiling. There were about 50 or more of them and they fomed a square. There was also a stage with wooden flooring. It was dusty and dark brown. I also had two of my friends with me. One of them said "whoa..." and then I wanted to swing on the ropes(as you do...). I said "Lets go swing on the ropes!". I said this from my own brain. I cant really explain it. It was sort of like my phsical body saying it. We all flew up to the ropes and started to swing from one to another. One comical thing that was funny was that one of my friends swung hard enough to make the full rope rest on the ceiling. He was at the middle of the rope so he went "BONG!" and slid down and off the rope to land on the floor. This was done like Dragonball Z.
I then suggested we have a race(as you do...). We all grabbed a starting rope and shouted "GO!!!". I was in the lead at first then my friend overtook me. I cheated and flew to the stage. "I won" I shouted.
We then went onto the balcony. It was nighttime and everything was lit up. It was a bit like London. After we talked for a bit on the balcany(cant remember what we were talking about), a heavy wind was pulling us all upwards. It was like a vaccumm. We couldnt hold on and got sucked up.

The next thing I knew, I was awake, with my whole body paralised.

Could this have been a real-time OBE or a Lucid dream?

Cya,
auraseer.

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