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cobalt

Since i have not projected yet i would like to ask to those or to people who know what do "professional"(the ones who can do it at will an as long as they want) trippers do, i mean they have ended up with just playing around, what, except peace they find "there" do they travel in space, learn something?
Nice to see you :)

Tombo

Quote from: cobaltthe ones who can do it at will an as long as they want
That would probably be the dead ones :lol:
" In order to arrive at a place you do not know you must go by a way you do not know "

-St John of the Cross

MFInsane

It is a very spiritual learning experience for any one no matter how advanced they are.
"IMAGINATION" is the "ART" of the "SOUL"!

cobalt

Does this means that they travel without a purpose, just to get some expierience? For example monks, as i have heard they st in caves for years traveling around, i doubt that they have no goals.
Nice to see you :)

MisterJingo

I would say that projecting is not a spiritual experience in itself, and does not necessarily lead to any spiritual evolution.
One can search for spiritual truths in the astral as one can in the physical, but the act of experiencing either does not lend itself to progress on it's own (or I should say advanced progress over that of experience gained over time).
I would also say the astral could possibly be counter productive to spiritual evolution, if one gets lost in any belief system (be it founded in the astral or physical) it blocks alternative viewpoints. Within the astral energy follows thought, and so beliefs can manifest themselves as (potentially false) truths more easily then in reality – so its possibly easier to get "lost".

MFInsane

As MJ stated;
It is very important to know what is true and what is not. That is so very important in ap/obe. It is very easy to become mislead by your thoughts.

My point is that ap shows us we have a spirit/soul. We can leave our bodies at night and do what ever. That is a spiritual experience to me.

The bottom line is that depending on your individual belief system your ap's will vary. Your mind influences them. So, if you believe in God, you will have Godly experiences, and ect... for what ever belief you have.
"IMAGINATION" is the "ART" of the "SOUL"!

MisterJingo

Quote from: MFInsaneAs MJ stated;
It is very important to know what is true and what is not. That is so very important in ap/obe. It is very easy to become mislead by your thoughts.

My point is that ap shows us we have a spirit/soul. We can leave our bodies at night and do what ever. That is a spiritual experience to me.

The bottom line is that depending on your individual belief system your ap's will vary. Your mind influences them. So, if you believe in God, you will have Godly experiences, and ect... for what ever belief you have.

Oh, don't mistake what I meant. The act of projecting in and of itself is very spiritual (to me at least) - and it does potentially allow one to interact with manifestations of concepts which without projection would just be mental abstractions or beliefs. But unless one makes an effort to explore, learn, and grow through the use of this state - it does not inherently allow for spiritual growth.

James S

Professional tripping?
You mean you could get paid for this stuff??

Man! Am I ever in the wrong job!!

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