Dreams & OBE's the same thing?

[TishAnna]

According to the Metaphysics and Spirituality website www.infinitebeing.com dreams and OBE's are the same thing.  We are out of body while we dream.  Our souls exit our body at night.  Here's an article from the website:

The Power of Imagination
by Owen Waters

In the dream state, you create any reality that you desire. In
a dream, you can be with anyone you imagine and in any
surroundings that you choose. In a dream, you might be walking
through the local scenery, then suddenly switch to driving in a
car and, finally, be flying through the air to get somewhere
more quickly. The background scenery can change from one scene
to another in a split-second.

When you awake, you may dismiss the dream as an imaginary,
fast-changing jumble of pure fantasy. After all, when you come
back into the cold, solid light of the physical world, the
dream world seems so unreal. But is it? Are all dreams just
your imagination running wild, or are those scenic backdrops
really created around you within the very fabric of the dream
world?

What about those times when you awake from a dream that seemed
so real, you find it hard to believe that it wasn't real. And
yet, you've been taught to believe that dreams are never real,
so then you struggle between that in-built belief and the fact
that you've just had a very real dream experience.

For example, in a dream, was that really your favorite
granddad visiting you, or did you just make it all up? And why
did he look so much younger than when he was alive?

Now, here is the surprising secret. Dreams are real. Very
real. When you are dreaming, you are out of your physical body
and functioning in your spirit body in the spirit world.

The fabric of the dream world, or spirit world, is called
etheric energy. Mystics call it the 'astral light' but,
technically speaking, its correct name is ethero-magnetic
energy. The substances of the physical world, on the other
hand, are composed of electro-magnetic energy. Your spirit body
is composed of etheric energy and so is the world that
surrounds you when you are in the spirit, or astral, world.

Etheric energy responds instantly to your thought commands. If
you want to change your appearance - shape shift - then just
think it, and it will be so. If you want to change your
surroundings, just imagine a new set of surroundings and they
will appear. At least, to your perception, they will, and to
anyone in your close proximity.

Those surroundings are created for you temporarily, as a
backdrop, by the power of your imagination. The real
surroundings of that location are independent of your
imaginative creations, which survive only for as long as you
pay attention to them. In the spirit world, these mental
creations are called thought forms. The more powerful your
ability to mentally focus, the larger and more vivid you can
make your thought forms. Within the spirit world, they are
solid to the touch, as are the bodies of other spirits.

This demonstrates that, in the spirit world, your imagination
is very real as it creates new realities instantly. In the
physical world, your imagination creates realities over time.
In fact, new realities manifest only after you have applied the
necessary physical action in order to organize them in the
physical world.

Physical realities don't just manifest out of thin air like
they do in the spirit world. You have to intend them, energize
them with your feelings, and then walk them through the steps
that will enable them to become physically manifest using
existing materials.

The common key between the dream world and the physical world
is that imagination creates realities. In the spirit world,
they manifest instantly and in accordance with the degree of
your mental focus. In the physical world they manifest slowly,
also in proportion to the effort that you invest in making them
happen.

Never let it be said that, "It's only your imagination." In
the saga of life, your imagination is everything. It is your
creative faculty. It has, quite simply, the power and the
potential to change the world.


This article was written for you by Owen Waters, author of
"The Shift: The Revolution in Human Consciousness," available
at Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1932336222

[TishAnna]

The interesting thing that I have found while reading Michael Newton's "Journey of Souls" and "Destiny of Souls" is that after we pass on into the spiritual world, we take part in role playing to learn how we could have made better decisions in our lives, we can review portions of our lives on screens, we attend spiritual classes, etc.  Our souls can even transmit into the "screens"/scenes  to observe or participate in a "scene" for learning.  In my dreams (OBE's?), I have been experiencing similar situations.  I often find myself in classroom type settings where we are learning about certain virtues, fears, etc.  I have also experienced in my dreams (OBE's?) seeing what seemed to be screens with scenes and pictures on it for learning.  I have also been an observer watching scenes, and I have watched scenes and then jumped into them to participate.  Last night I had a dream (OBE?) where someone was role playing as my sister.  It wasn't my sister, but she was supposed to be her.  Another soul was playing the part of my sister.  I knew it was role playing right during the dream/OBE.  There seem to be similarities between what could be experienced while dreaming (having OBE's?) and what goes on after the soul passes on in the case of physical death.  According to the infinite being article which was written by Owen Waters, author of "The Shift: The Revolution in Human Consciousness," we travel out of our bodies at night.  What I have been experiencing lately in my dreams/OBE's coincides with what people who have been hypnotized and regressed back to the time when they were in the spiritual world between lives, say goes on after we physically pass on.  Interesting!

[Arn de Gothia]

interesting that you say that the dreamworld is made up by etheric energy. I had a dream were i was standing in a tower with some people. One of the characters mentioned the word "dream" and at that moment i became lucid, normally this causes me to wake up pretty much right away. There was a girl standing next to me and i thought "i better kiss her before i wakes up", i did kiss her and while doing it i woke up and i felt an intense tingeling on lips and tung that lasted a few seconds. Proof  that dreams are not entirely in your head...perhaps.

[mactombs]

I think it's easier to just say, F2. It makes a lot more sense, too.

[Arn de Gothia]

who came up with this F scale nonsense anyway

[NickJW]

non sense? More like more sense, as in more sense than the mystic belief system. Have fun in your 7 astral planes, I'll explore the thousands of astral planes that actually exist. Calling the focus levels and the phasing model nonsense is just pure ignorance.