The creatures that live inside me

[Leyla]

Oh, isn't the subconscious mind amazing.  :color:

I have this little heroic fairygirl that will rise up right out of my chest, to do battle with little dark entities of fear and depression which also rise up out of my chest. There are three of them.

It's really quite something.

She has a new idea this time. She has figured out not to fight them, but to infact transform them with energy. Because we have learned that we are only fighting ourself. No use in kicking the crap out of ones own self.

I hope the new plan works. I don't know though, because I always feel so very weak and drained and helpless when this is going on.

[NickJW]

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[Leyla]

Must be newbies. I don't know how you can be on this board and have never heard of this before.

There are these things know as "terrors on the threshold" or "dwellers on the threshold."  When you have an unresolved guilt or fear or trauma, it will splinter off (because you have buried it so deeply in your mind) and will sometimes attack you. Then you will have to fight it off. Kind of like that part in star wars where Luke is having a battle, and then pulls the mask off and sees he has been fighting himself. This is a Buddhist principal.

There is another phenomenon known as "splitting." You may not be aware of this; but you have many minds. Have you ever been trying to concentrate, and then your mind wandered, and then you caught yourself, and snapped back to attention? How? Because your higher mind was watching, saw the other part of your mind drift off focus, and then alerted you.

Many frequent projectors here (including myself) have had the experience of sitting up out of body in several different parts and having a conversation among ourselves. You know when you're trying to make up your mind about something? "Well, on the one hand there is this factor, but then on the other hand..." That's the different parts of you, trying to work something out.

I suggest you read Astral Dynamics, it goes over all of the phenomenon above.

[Nay]

I've never heard of the dweller of the threshold described like this before, where'd you get it?  

Nay

EDIT: Hmmm.. My Dweller on the threshold sticky topic has been deleted...dangit, now I got to do it all over again.

[CFTraveler]

Must be newbies. I don't know how you can be on this board and have never heard of this before.

There are these things know as "terrors on the threshold" or "dwellers on the threshold."  When you have an unresolved guilt or fear or trauma, it will splinter off (because you have buried it so deeply in your mind) and will sometimes attack you. Then you will have to fight it off. Kind of like that part in star wars where Luke is having a battle, and then pulls the mask off and sees he has been fighting himself. This is a Buddhist principal.

There is another phenomenon known as "splitting." You may not be aware of this; but you have many minds. Have you ever been trying to concentrate, and then your mind wandered, and then you caught yourself, and snapped back to attention? How? Because your higher mind was watching, saw the other part of your mind drift off focus, and then alerted you.

Many frequent projectors here (including myself) have had the experience of sitting up out of body in several different parts and having a conversation among ourselves. You know when you're trying to make up your mind about something? "Well, on the one hand there is this factor, but then on the other hand..." That's the different parts of you, trying to work something out.

I suggest you read Astral Dynamics, it goes over all of the phenomenon above.

Lately while meditating I have been able to separate the part of the mind who babbles on and on from that part that stares off into space and can achieve quiet.  I can have both at the same time (I 'get silence' by getting the babbling part to chant "ohm" or "Iam"  But I can feel myself observing both parts at the same time.  It's interesting- like the mind-split phenomenon but all in one place.  Or, I'm going cuckoo... :tetter: :question:  

[dingo]

:crazy3:

[MisterJingo]

Must be newbies. I don't know how you can be on this board and have never heard of this before.

There are these things know as "terrors on the threshold" or "dwellers on the threshold."  When you have an unresolved guilt or fear or trauma, it will splinter off (because you have buried it so deeply in your mind) and will sometimes attack you. Then you will have to fight it off. Kind of like that part in star wars where Luke is having a battle, and then pulls the mask off and sees he has been fighting himself. This is a Buddhist principal.

There is another phenomenon known as "splitting." You may not be aware of this; but you have many minds. Have you ever been trying to concentrate, and then your mind wandered, and then you caught yourself, and snapped back to attention? How? Because your higher mind was watching, saw the other part of your mind drift off focus, and then alerted you.

Many frequent projectors here (including myself) have had the experience of sitting up out of body in several different parts and having a conversation among ourselves. You know when you're trying to make up your mind about something? "Well, on the one hand there is this factor, but then on the other hand..." That's the different parts of you, trying to work something out.

I suggest you read Astral Dynamics, it goes over all of the phenomenon above.

Lately while meditating I have been able to separate the part of the mind who babbles on and on from that part that stares off into space and can achieve quiet.  I can have both at the same time (I 'get silence' by getting the babbling part to chant "ohm" or "Iam"  But I can feel myself observing both parts at the same time.  It's interesting- like the mind-split phenomenon but all in one place.  Or, I'm going cuckoo... :tetter: :question:  

I was trying to explain this to my partner. To perhaps sound slightly mad, to an extent I can distinguish 'myself' from 'myself'. Its like I've always got company.
Whenever I meet people I get what I can only describe as a mix of emotions which seems a unique signature to that person. But I can sence such a signature of myself.  Like I am both the watcher and the watched but they're watching each other.
This is why I never feel lonely I guess - and actually enjoy my own company   lol.

[Leyla]

RunLola- Partially my fault, I meant to post this under astral experiences and not astral chat.

CFTraveler
I can feel myself observing both parts at the same time. It's interesting- like the mind-split phenomenon but all in one place.

Once, while I was sleeping, my subconscious mind woke up, rolled over, and watched my subconscious mind have it's dream. My dreaming mind never realized it was being watched. Then, my conscious mind began analyzing the dream while I was still having it, so that I woke up remembering the dream in detail, and also knowing exactly what it meant.

Nay- I first head of this from high ceremonial magick. It was a sketchy general description. That the terrors would attack you, but when you confront them they will dissipate. Not many details after that.

The rest I figured out from my own experience with them. Others have come to the same conclusion.

This is why I've run across so many failed magicians. It often happens that someone learns about my magick interests, and then approaches me to tell the story of their experience. Its always the same: "Stay away from that stuff, It's dangerous! I used to try it, and then some horrible nightmarish demon attacked me and I never messed with it again!"

Then I have to sit them down, explain that they just confronted their own darkest most subconscious fears, and should not have backed down. It was a test, the first test of sorts. Are they really ready to go to the places in your mind  this is going to take you?

Not to be hokey but "Fear is the Mind Killer."

[jason]

I used to get what the origional poster mentioned ALL THE TIME.

It rarely happens now, & I still experiment.It hasn't stopped me.

Nothing will stop me.

[Leyla]

I have an update-

A few days after confronting the terror in the threshold I consciously recovered a trauma I had pushed to the back of my mind. I dealt with it, and feel so much better now.

This always happens a few days within a successful encounter with a terror so I was not surprised.

[Selski]

A few days after confronting the terror in the threshold I consciously recovered a trauma I had pushed to the back of my mind. I dealt with it, and feel so much better now.

This always happens a few days within a successful encounter with a terror so I was not surprised.

Good for you Leyla - that's great news.  

I have a similar 'scenario' where I get fear-filled dreams.  I tend to wake myself up the first few times (because I can't face the fear).  Eventually I realise what the fear represents and either deal with it physically, or deal with it during the dream and something 'lifts' from me the following day or so, and I feel much better.  

Sarah

[CFTraveler]

I have an update-

A few days after confronting the terror in the threshold I consciously recovered a trauma I had pushed to the back of my mind. I dealt with it, and feel so much better now.

This always happens a few days within a successful encounter with a terror so I was not surprised.

That's the most constructive reaction I've heard- I'll have to remember that for next time. (luckily, my adventures have been fairly nonstressful.)

[Kodemaster]

"Fear is the Mind Killer."

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