Finally Vibrations!

[piangrande]

Hi Anybody.
I'm Chris from Germany.
I just registered, as I am very interested in having OBEs and practicing astral traveling. After a lot failed tries, yesterday I was in a very conscious state of mind, I realized, that my body was sleeping, but my mind was fully awake. After a while of feeling nothing, suddenly vibrations started, coming from my feet and moving up through my whole body. So this was really the first time, that I felt those great sensations. I wasn't afraid, but I was somehow not able to keep the vibrations coming. That's a pity, but I'm proud that I made it this far. So, does anybody has a few tips for me on how to prolong or increase the vibrations? I really want to AP. As soon as it works I gotta visit the API, if it isn't dead yet.

So thanks in advance.

                       Chris.

[Sepultura123]

Keep your mind awake and your body asleep and try to dont think about any other though. Keep your eyes on the vision of your shutted eyes.

Just try to relax and the vibrsation will be more powerful.

At that time try to exit.

[piangrande]

Yeah, I gotta try that tonight.
Thanks, so far. Let's see if I get this far tonight. I report back, if something spectacular happened. See ya.

[Sepultura123]

If you see like white vortex or white circle like if you flew to a portal. Try a exit method right away.

I have seen them a couple of time but never tryed to exit at the same time. I read somewhere that at this time you have a higher rate or going out of your body.

[piangrande]

Hmm...
I think I was a bit too tired last night, so I wasn't able to concentrate on anything, thus I got no vibrations at all. But thanks for the tip. What exit method do you use?

[zareste]

Argh, I have the same problem.  I've always been psionic enough to make vibrations occur without even lying down, but I never get past that point.  I can even feel the spirit hitting the skin as I try to get out, but can't get loose.

If there were an explanation on what keeps the spirit from detaching at any given moment...

[Sepultura123]

Don't be unhappy several time I was out of my body like half to be completely out but I was like 3 feets from my body not fully awake. (Just feeling the projection not seein it yet.)

[CFTraveler]

If there were an explanation on what keeps the spirit from detaching at any given moment...

One theory is that if the energy body isn't detaching from your physical body you don't have enough energy.  I had that problem with the legs and moving energy worked so far.  So do 'moving energy work' before you settle down to do your relaxation methods and it will give you energy to separate.

[WarpedReality]

Argh, I have the same problem.  I've always been psionic enough to make vibrations occur without even lying down, but I never get past that point.  I can even feel the spirit hitting the skin as I try to get out, but can't get loose.

If there were an explanation on what keeps the spirit from detaching at any given moment...

Without lying down? Do you mean you were sitting in a chair? That's one of the standard positions to try AP and so is lying on your back.

There is no 'spirit' that can detach at any moment. Instead, there is an etheric body that works in tandem with your physical body. When you project, you pump energy into a projectable double that can move about (according to Monroe and others).

[Sepultura123]

I found that the position is not important. With the right set of mind before projecting yourself you can think about the position that you want with feeling your body.  In some time , I was on the side but I was feeling my projection like I was on the back. And at some time I could have take the position that I wanted.

[wonderboy]

Funny thing about the vibrational state, as soon as you get excited that you got there....its gone. I've personally always found that continuing the focus on relaxation deepens the vibrational state for me and often times I'll just "pop out" alaa being shot out of a cannon. Normally the way it works for me is that I get my astral vision first. When I can see but am still in my body I usually just rock myself out, sit up style or roll out sideways. It works just like the robert bruce rope method for me.

Concerning feeling like you are bumping into your skin without enough energy to get out was something that I felt a lot right after reading astral dynamics and spending a lot of time in my recliner. It turns out that for me what I had thought was a deep enough state of relaxation was way off. When people mean mind awake body asleep I always thought that it was more like body quite relaxed, but for me I need to get to the point where I can't feel my limbs. To do this I picture my body (after some normal relaxation breathing and energy work ) in whatever position is in, and I visually start erasing my limbs until I don't feel them at all.

hope that helps

Wonderboy

[WarpedReality]

wonderboy pointed out something very important about physical relaxation: it is VERY important. In fact it is the reason most beginners cannot leave their body or become stuck in certain places.

That is why I spend about a minute shifting around and finding a comfortable position. If I don't spend time to find the right position, then a group of muscles may become strained or difficult to relax. This will prevent full physical relaxation and lead to an unsuccessful projection attempt.

[Sepultura123]

Like I said before position is not 100% important if you can imagine that you here in another position and trying to exit at the same time.

[zareste]

Interesting.  I figured the key to it would be paralysis - bringing it on manually.  Numbness would theoretically mean you're detaching from the nerves, so perhaps I'll experiment with ways to cause manual paralysis.

[Sepultura123]

I never succeeded doing a OBe while in sleep paralysis. Maybe im too busy trying to budge.

[Eloquence]

I think one of the most important things to remember when trying to exit is to be patient. Dont give up after an hour of laying there, and try not to be discouraged either, it will come in time. If you dont exit when awake, chances are you will have a lucid dream where you can try again. Most of my success has come from that method, rather than soully depending on being awake when trying. But again, patience is the key.

[Sepultura123]

Im impatient. Sometime I just try to doa  roll away method but this dont work because in not fully body asleep and my body move.

[WarpedReality]

Like I said before position is not 100% important if you can imagine that you here in another position and trying to exit at the same time.

Um, what?

Im impatient. Sometime I just try to doa roll away method but this dont work because in not fully body asleep and my body move

And that is why it is so important to have reached a body asleep (even paralysis) state because it will prevent you from involuntarily tensing your muscles or causing movement during your projection attempt.

[geist]

I´m new in this studies, but i have realized something good about vibrations. When they start, specially when they´re new for us, we give them too much attention. As everyone knows, the key is ignore them and keep going with a blanked mind. The problem is that´s hard to do. Specially because they tend to accelerate turning a simple inner oscillation into something huge, full of energy. But a good approach is to "let go". It´ll be much easier to ignore them. The reason for that is: everything is dreamlike. So you just don´t mind if your body is shaking or your head is in a huge of energy. In the state of let go, you don´t mind.
We need to find a state of mind where we don´t mind about what´s happening with us.
I took a long time to realize that and i´m still working on it.

That´s better explained by Robert Peterson. Visit his site at: http://www.robertpeterson.org/
Take a look at "14 OBE Letters" in "OBE Articles" section.

Keep practicing and good luck.