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Sunn

i've heard alot of people mention F3 up to F10... this is such a noob question but what the hell are you all talking about,.. i know its in relation to states of mind etc but where can i read up on these.

MisterJingo

Focus level is a term coined by Monroe. They are used to identify certain states of consciousness based upon brainwave state.
F3 is supposedly mind and brain synchronised.
F10 is 'mind awake, body asleep'. This can be likened to a deep trance where awareness of the body is either removed or much diminished. In this state the mind is very much active, but little of its awareness is focused on the physical body.

WarpedReality

I actually believe that Monroe's model is becoming outdated. It is a great starting point, but advanced projectors claim that it is too restrictive and linear for the alterations of consciousness they experience.

WarpedReality

I actually believe that Monroe's model is becoming outdated. It is a great starting point, but advanced projectors claim that it is too restrictive and linear for the alterations of consciousness they experience.

The Present Moment

Check this thread in the faq section. Keep in mind that F3 is not the same in Frank K.'s model:

Monroe C1 – Phasing Model Focus 1
Monroe Focus's 3;10;12;15 & 21 – Phasing Model Focus 2
Monroe Focus's 23; 24; 25; 26 & 27 – Phasing Model Focus 3
No direct translation with Monroe – Phasing Model Focus 4

E3mpirical1

Well I have a question about Focus15 which is a state of no time. I've noticed that some nights I will lay in bed for the whole night while not falling asleep once. I'll look at the clock and it'll say 1:00AM next thing I know I look at it again and it says 2:00AM and it surprises me how I have not fallen asleep at all and what seems like only 10-15 minutes is actually more like an hour or so. Is this a focus15 state according to Monroe.

Stookie

That sounds more like falling into a light sleep to me. The feeling of "no-time" is a definate state of consciousness, not a jump in time.

mactombs

QuoteThe feeling of "no-time" is a definite state of consciousness, not a jump in time.

What's the difference?
A certain degree of neurosis is of inestimable value as a drive, especially to a psychologist - Sigmund Freud

CFTraveler

Quote from: The Present MomentCheck this thread in the faq section. Keep in mind that F3 is not the same in Frank K.'s model:

Monroe C1 – Phasing Model Focus 1
Monroe Focus's 3;10;12;15 & 21 – Phasing Model Focus 2
Monroe Focus's 23; 24; 25; 26 & 27 – Phasing Model Focus 3
No direct translation with Monroe – Phasing Model Focus 4
Guys, I sucked at Math- And for the life of me, I've read every topic about the focuses but I still can't seem to get it.  Is there an 'Idiot's Guide to Focus Levels?'  :nerd:

Sepultura123

A jump in time your not conscious and a light sleep a little yes.

The Present Moment

Quote from: CFTraveler
Guys, I sucked at Math- And for the life of me, I've read every topic about the focuses but I still can't seem to get it.  Is there an 'Idiot's Guide to Focus Levels?'  :nerd:
This post by Frank is fairly in-depth, but it doesn't include FZ -- focus 0, a border between all the states.

Stookie

Quote from: mactombs
QuoteThe feeling of "no-time" is a definite state of consciousness, not a jump in time.

What's the difference?

A jump in time would be a quick loss of consciousness. It goes from 1:00 to 2:00 without noticing. But in the state of "no time", you are fully conscious. There is no jump in time because time cannot be percieved in that state.