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Major Tom

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mactombs

As always, you're an inspiration, Major Tom - I wish you'd remembered what the voices said, though ;) Did you listen to music as well, or was it just voices? Man, if you could keep that up, it would be better than XM radio ... and so many more channels ...
A certain degree of neurosis is of inestimable value as a drive, especially to a psychologist - Sigmund Freud

WarpedReality

Quote from: Major Tom

Then I started to hear a voice. Not a voice directed to me, but more like a feeling of me "tuning in", or "listening in" on a monologue of sorts. The voice was that of Robert Monroe.

I then continued to "change channels", and listened to several different radio channels. Nothing really of interest, and the usual stuff, but I continued to be fascinated the process.


Right before I phased into the 3d Blackness (Fz), I heard the most vivid and amazing playing of 311's Amber. Right after I projected into the blackness, the tune changed to a radio-like sound. I could people talking and their thoughts, and sometimes I would hear 'static' (although it wasn't really static, it was high and low pitched tones).

For the rest of my experience, I explored Fz as if my head/consciousness was an audio receiver that allowed me to hear some really bizarre things.

WarpedReality

Quote from: Major Tom
Hi Warped,
We crossposted.

Yes, music is basically the same mechanism IMO as I said in the last post.

It's the same state. F21 is probably a little bit "wider" in scope...more universal...and F12 and F15 more local....

Music in this state is awesome I agree  :smile:

Most bodacious.


But could you explain what the 'radio-like' sounds I was hearing were?



It almost sounds like from your post above that you were actually tuning into radio frequencies (AM/FM) as opposed to audibly tuning into other focus levels.

WarpedReality

Quote from: Major Tom
Hi,

Well, I would explain mine and your experience with regards to the radio sounds as a symbolic represention of consciousness attempting to tune into a particular source of information (whatever that source is).

Since in this instance it relies on an audio sense modality, the search will quite quickly be symbolically translated as radio sounds for lack of a more direct symbol that is immediately available.

In other words, the symbol of radio like sounds compensates for the lack of symbols to represent consciousness and its operations directly.

Likewise, static may mean not being entirely "tuned" in correctly...meaning consciousness was not entirely clear.

Hope that makes sense.

Hence, I don't think it's an actual radio station.

However, the answer to the the question whether "real" information can be accessed (including an actual radio station) is something I rather leave open for now (for myself included).

What's bodacious btw? My thesaurus failed to come up with an answer.

ha. Watch the 80s movie Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure.


Its interesting that you are pointing to the radio-like sounds as symbolic. Perhaps It was a symbolic representation of the telepathy of universal consciousness (? just a wild venture) which I wasn't ready or able to perceive directly in 3D Blackness?

I only say that because while attempting to reach F2 from F1, I once was flooded with imagery/sounds/experiences/emotions of other individuals for about 10 minutes.  During this 'flood', I lost my identity and awareness. It was almost as if I was about 20 different individuals in quick succession, unable to return to me. A little scary.


Oh, and a person I know who is a psychic, explained to me how they 'tune' into a person. They said that they will focus on that person and receive strong phasing-like imagery. Sometimes it will come in as images, movie clips, speech, letters, or they will just know. Interestingly, all of the information they receive is usually symbolic. It is rarely straight forward and has to be interpreted which makes accuracy difficult.

Why do you, me, psychics and projectors have to operate through this abstract layer of symbolism. Why can't we just directly experience the different levels of consciousness for what they really are.

mactombs

Wow, this thread is most excellent - it kind of hints at "universal consciousness", and even more immediate, international awareness ... huge streams of information accessible all over the world. I remember Telos bringing up this topic once, and from recent personal events - and watching technology unfold - it almost seems as if humanity is reaching through technologically to facilitate new states of awareness, a chance for us all to "plug-in", so to speak.

And this brings up the question of F2 symbolism. Today, I just had a long-ish romp in F2, where I was consciously exploring different possibilities (awake while sleeping and controlling my dreams for at least an hour). F2 is indeed slippery, but I think I know why ...

In my F2 scenario, what I didn't have information about, I made up with silly F2 imagery that I have no idea where the images came from, but I recognized that they were way out there, and they were just "filling in" ... basically, symbols are like variables in a programming language ... if you understand that, I think F2 will suddenly make a lot of sense.

Basically, F2 is our Here-Now consciousness plugged into an Internet of Everything, a bandwidth of local traffic, emotional stations, every piece of information just floating out there like radio waves ... most people, dreaming, are just going over randomly stored information, processing the day's events, musing over possibilities with many variables, or getting lost in the infinite static of local broadcasts. They're too busy working with their local system (the brain) to look up and see what's going on around them in the universe - but sometimes they do, sometimes they become lucid and then it's like they wake up for an instant, almost even remember the whole picture.

Anyway, I imagine soon technology and altered awareness is going to merge. Maybe a little off-topic ...

But I think MajorTom is getting on that universal Internet and playing up some tunes, some lectures, and downloading that info into his brain (like biological RAM).

We all have computers with wireless access to the universal Internet ... it's learning to deal with the (infinite) information that's tricky. That's my take on F2. It's local static - mostly generated by the local system (you) when its happening.
A certain degree of neurosis is of inestimable value as a drive, especially to a psychologist - Sigmund Freud

mactombs

Yeah, I'm not all that clear on the F12, F21 definitions (I think I should look into them more) ... but it did occur to me that the nature of F2 is fairly well described as "H-Band radiation", do you remember this being used in Monroe's book? I think that's what a lot of people do, they get stuck in the H-Band and that's how they lose lucidity or awareness - and I  think a lot of that radiation is produced by their own mind.

I appreciate your comments on getting down to the nitty-gritty, and I agree with them.

Today I had potent F2 experience I can't really describe. I was listening to the last track of the Wave I from Gateway, the Free Flow 10 where Monroe tells you to remember your purpose. I was in deep F10 and then further past, and Monroe's voice reminded me, what was my purpose? I wanted to reach F3, and thought about Frank (or an aspect of him) in F3. I tried detuning, and I remember through the H-Band static (that's the best I can explain it right now) someone talking to me, actually I think only the man was talking, but he had others gathered around. I don't remember what they said, and I don't think I got it clearly anyway. When I came out of that session, I was so out of it I had to get out of the house to ground myself.

Anyway, just the way you described things in radio terms made me connect experiences - how it felt like awareness and focus levels were like tuning a radio almost.
A certain degree of neurosis is of inestimable value as a drive, especially to a psychologist - Sigmund Freud

mactombs

Thanks for that link!

QuoteUsing the mind as a transducer, it is possible to tune into different "radio stations" along the Interstate of Consciousness.

That's a pretty good description right there, except that the analogy is outdated. It's more like a massive data stream of visual, auditory information sometimes interspersed with other physical senses (and maybe some non-physical ones). What it needs is a search engine ...

I've been wondering how to access information from it reliably.

Anyway, I'm hoping you have continued experience with it so we can all learn ...  :wink:

In the meantime, I'm going to keep looking for Frank's F3. If I stop posting, it's because I didn't want to come back.  :seeya:
A certain degree of neurosis is of inestimable value as a drive, especially to a psychologist - Sigmund Freud