Astral trip and OBE both exhilirating and scary!

[Kraven Obscuria]

Finally after almost a year not practicing regularly, I am consciously attempting projections both during naps and at night time.  For a long time I tried to avoid projecting at night, but not anymore. Currently I am reading Our Ultimate Reality, listening to Direct Voice Recordings daily and listening to Hemi-Sync(Metamusic) Baroque Garden for Concentration and the Hemi-Sync (Mindfood)Concentration while working.  Just by these ideas being in the forefront of my daily thoughts and by making the mental affirmation lately that I will begin to conquer fear and continue projecting, I had the following experience with out using any methods to achieve a projection, other than expecting it to happen.

I did some simple relaxation while going into nap and simply became aware, no mantras or anything. (When I do use mantras I tend to use the FA Ra On mantra, while visualizing Astral Pulse Island, or just staring into blackness).

Upon napping first while in a dream I saw my girlfriend walking in a room and suddenly thought I was seeing her thru my closed eyes or with Etheric sight due to it seeming different. I immediately tried to follow her, but the scene faded and I physically woke up.

I went back into physical relaxation and into a dream and was in an old type of elevator cage that turns upside down. I was sort of tied up in a seat belt and there was a pin hinge on the bottom of the door by my feet. Suddenly after moving at a great speed I was outside in the elevator cage  in a large open area.  After watching two people leave the unit next to me, I got a little anxious that they were leaving and I would be stuck there, so I got out of the unit.  

At this point I was almost hearing a narration of what happened when I died and what condition I found myself in, but I think it was influenced by the direct voice recording I just listened to.  Nevertheless I, for a few minutes was thinking I was dead and in the astral.  I saw a couple of disturbing things and thought how I need to raise my vibratory level.  I felt my hands and feet touch the ground which felt very real and solid.  After a couple of minutes of this, I looked upwards, raised my arms and thought about flying upwards and did.  I was doing back flips and flying fast and it felt completely amazing.  I must have gone very high up, as I then had the impression of looking at a map.  I picked a point on the "map" and focused on it, and things got larger and larger while I sped towards it. I approached a colorful scene, and was sort of diving through intense color of blues, magenta and green..

At this point I believe I became aware of my Astral or Etheric legs floating upward in my bedroom.  I awoke in my bed I believe into the Real Time Zone, to find two small children of only maybe 2 years old, slightly demonic looking and with their arms around me. They weren't necessary attacking me, but I wanted them away.  I remember having my hand over one of their mouths while they protested.  I thought about trying to talk to them first and asked them "Who are you", "why have you come" and "how often do you come" but didn't seem to get an intelligible response.  I then tried to speak to "conjure" them away, but was having problems speaking and stupidly should have realized to simply focus mentally on the thought I was trying to accomplish.

I decided to physically wake up, but this proved to be difficult.  I sat up and thought I must be awake as things seem too "real" and clear, then a hand appeared and pulled me through the bedroom wall about 15 feet away, I then was in bed again immediately after that.  I kept thinking that I wish to return to full waking consciousness and was trying to shake myself awake.  I was getting a little scared as it was seeming very hard to break the session and physically wake up.  

Finally upon waking I felt the familiar temperature drop in my body and felt rather cloudy with a slight headache.  It took about 10 minutes to feel fully awake and refreshed while I am writing this.

[Nay]

Wow!  very cool.   I think the headache and cloudy feelings should ease up with each experience.  I never cared for mantras...feels weird to me, but that's just me.

Do you have any animals?  

I can't remember, hopfully someone will correct me, but I think it was Monroe that had the problem with a small, demonic looking child that kept clinging to him, if I remember correctly, it turned out to be his cat.  It scared him enough though..

Very nice experience!  Thanks for sharing.

[Kraven Obscuria]

Yes I have a cocker spaniel, but he couldn't possibly reach that high up or jump onto the bed!


I remember Monroe mentioned the child clinging to his back in "Journeys Out of The Body.  I also remember he mentioned a man with "whiskers" clinging to his back, which turned out to be his physical body!

I have been having these experiences my whole life, but only in the past few years have I purposely been inducing them and attempting to control them and progress.  So hopefully the cloudiness with soon dissipate...

[greytraveler]

Very interesting experience. That does seem similar to some experiences Robert Monroe described in his first book. You might be on the lookout for these 2 child discarnates in future projections. Maybe they have something to communicate. Of course they could also be just annoying or negative entities.
The constant practice at inducing projection Will pay benefits. It could be a time delayed effect as well ---- as you might experience projections weeks or months from now even if you cease practice after a week or so. The subconscious desire to project can have a profound effect on inducing future OBEs.

[Kraven Obscuria]

Thanks for the kind words greytraveler!

[jub jub]

Sounds like you're making some progress so all the hard work is beginning to pay off!

I have yet to meet anyone in the RTZ and I believe I would freak if I came across some negs. Do you think that meeting those two children will influence further OBE's or is it just another "bug" to be worked out?

[Kraven Obscuria]

Jub jub,
I can't answer what type of influence the two kids will have on future projections.  I don't know if they were negs or subconscious overlay.
As far as making progress, I have been to and past this point before about a year ago, then suddenly stopped for no reason.  

It went from laying on my back at night trying to project, to literally sleeping with the computer monitor on for some light, and sleeping on my side and feeling sort of freaked out when I would be very conscious while feeling all of the sleep signs come on.  I would keep tossing and turning in the hopes of just simply falling into a dream and not having to deal with the vibes. I never really had any bad neg experiences while in my bedroom either, so I don't know why I got like that.  I would hear voices and people say my name, or feel something jump on the bed and grunt or even a female form get under the sheets and lay next to me, but no attacks. I would always have problems speaking and would usually be  partially paralyzed, so it would get awkward.  

However, while in the Astral plane I have had negs attack me and I sometimes would feel a sort of pain in the heart chakra area.  But once I am fully mobile, I simply confront them, and they usually shrink and disappear, or go away.  It just would simply suck trying to deal with this thru sleep paralysis.

In retrospect, that fear will always be there, unless you say today is the day I begin to overcome it.  It seems progress is not possible if you avoid consciously projecting due to this silly fear.  So its just a "bug" to be worked out.

[jub jub]

In retrospect, that fear will always be there, unless you say today is the day I begin to overcome it.  It seems progress is not possible if you avoid consciously projecting due to this silly fear.  So its just a "bug" to be worked out.

I agree 100%. If the sub conscious has the slightest inkling that something is up, it's "all bets are off!".

I think this NE thing is causing me problems at the moment but I'm willing to work through it.

Anyway, I'll be looking forward to your next adventure!

Side Bar: BTW, I use to live in Casselberry, Fl quite a few years ago!

[tetumtetum]

if you want to greatly increase your success to astral project write the following about 10-20 times daily..

"i (followed by your name) will consciously astral project (and here fill in a date 30 days from when you start)"

make sure you record your reactions to this statement, even if they are negative

following your reactions, write the words "thank you"