A question about philosophy in mediumship

[majour ka]

Hi guys, one of my main guides is particuly interested in philosophy.

I recently read somthing about spiritual energies and mediumship, it talked about how a medium must be aware of which plane if you like that they are tuned in to, and i quote "The astral plane where spirit communications come from and what is generaly known as clairvoyance. Whereas trance and philosophy can take us to higher dimesions and comes from our giudes who do not live on thec astral"

So when talking about philosophy, the writer is making it sound as though it describes a different form of mediumship. is there such a thing? or are they saying that our philisophic guides would only live on a higher plane?
Any one know anything about this? Thanks marcus.

[ChineseRoom]

Wow, that must be cool having a guide interested in philosophy (it would for me anyway   ) When it comes to mediumship, I dont know much. Anyway, I read somewhere that philosophers go into the "mental realm" or something, so maybe your guide is from there?

[majour ka]

Hi chineseroom, if thats what your inerested in then maybe you have.
Im laughing to myself now because I just read back over my post, I must have been having a very confused day when I posted that ! even I had trouble understanding what i had written LOL.

Regards Marcus.

[James S]

Hi major ka,

I have a guide that comes to me from time to time - a woman by the name of Maria who was a philosopher that lived in Spain durin the times of the Inquisition. Her philosophies weren't accepted by the Church, and she was put to death for her beliefs.

The thing that I've found to be most important when receiving messages and guidance from our guides is not so much the beliefs or philosophies that they work with, but whether or not they come to you and guide you in love. If the sense of love is not present with them, then they'r egoing to be a problem and should be dissmissed.

Blessings,
James.

[painterhypnogirl]

Hi majour ka,
It's quite important to know exactly who you are talking to when communicating with non-physical entities.  Just like people on the physical plane, there are spirits in the astral who enjoy pretending they are something they aren't.  When asking for a guide's help or advice, it's prudent to ask that only your highest spiritual guides with your highest purpose in mind communicate with you.  The highest guides are obviously going to reside in the highest planes.  They lower their vibration to be able to communicate with us, but this does not mean they are an entity of lower vibration.  A strong command that only the highest guides communicate with you usually does the trick.

[majour ka]

HI guys, thanx for you time but I was just confused by somthing i had read that day, and had wonderd if it had made sence to any one else ? That was all.

Im not botherd now any way, regards Marcus x

[majour ka]

It's quite important to know exactly who you are talking to when communicating with non-physical entities.  Just like people on the physical plane, there are spirits in the astral who enjoy pretending they are something they aren't.  

Hi Pianterhypnogirl, do you paint? I like your avater  

Regarding what you wrote, I appreciate the sentiment of what you wrote, but I wouldnt personaly get to attached to that idea, if im giving a reading for example im giving survivail evidance to my sitter from normaly a friend or relitave whom in general they recognise. I insist always that the imfomation come from an intelligent scource with the sole purpose of helping people. And while I get advice etc from my guides whom I do trust, I still apply logic and free will, as im also aware that spirit are not even with the best intentions imfallable. As for enteties that want to pretend to be somthing thier not, that would my opinion entirely depend on your own development and what your motive is for channelling them. I truthfully dont suffer from that problem. regards and thanks Marcus.

P.S please dont think im bieng derogetory, as I understood what you where saying and understand you where offering me kind advice x

[painterhypnogirl]

Hi again, Marcus  
Yes, I do paint.  And, I'm a hypnotherapist.  And, female.  Hence, the nic!  Actually, I agree with everything you said.  Obviously, in mediumship, you have to talk with those who have crossed over from whatever plane they are residing in.  I made a generalization, that on face value, was too general.  

[majour ka]

Hypnotherpy ! wow thats realy cool, its got such a an important part to play in healing.
Im reading a great book at the moment, called "journey of souls" have you read it? The aurther is a hypnotherepist, I cant remember his name off hand. Regards Marcus x

[painterhypnogirl]

Yes, I've read all of Michael Newton's books.  I specialize in regressions.  I hope to study with him someday.  I was once regressed by a man who learned from him.  I studied last summer with Dr. Brian Weiss, author of "Many Lives, Many Masters".  It was great!  You can click on my www. below if you want to check out my website.

[majour ka]

Hey patty, I checked your website, very impressive, its great to see some one that has so much compassion, bless you and good luck with your work. Marcus x

[fliesatnite]

Hi all,

It's quite important to know exactly who you are talking to when communicating with non-physical entities. Just like people on the physical plane, there are spirits in the astral who enjoy pretending they are something they aren't. When asking for a guide's help or advice, it's prudent to ask that only your highest spiritual guides with your highest purpose in mind communicate with you. The highest guides are obviously going to reside in the highest planes. They lower their vibration to be able to communicate with us, but this does not mean they are an entity of lower vibration. A strong command that only the highest guides communicate with you usually does the trick.

Sometimes I do what I'd term a spontaneous reading, whereas I'll be sitting there talking with someone and from behind them I can see a discarnate.  Sometimes the people I'm talking to are complete strangers and other times someone will be talking about a person, maybe just relating a story to me and they'll 'show up'.  I can see these people in faded color, they are see through but I can get details, like if they wore a baseball cap all the time, or a flannel shirt or whatever.  Or, I'll smell something.. if they were a construction worker say, I'll smell fresh wood or if they were a cook I'll smell food.  

So, in that essence I am not concerned so much as to 'whom' I'm speaking with since I can see them and relate information and visuals to the person I'm talking to.

Other times, my grandma will show up and bring along what I call 'a friend', if I'm reading for a sitter I generally ask my Gram to bring them to me.  Sounds bizarre, yes, absolutely.  Sometimes I just see a cloud of white, at first I thought it was my eyesight (lol), but now I realize there is a person who I know that the only time I see this 'cloud' is with them.  Wonder what's up with that?!

As for enteties that want to pretend to be somthing thier not, that would my opinion entirely depend on your own development and what your motive is for channelling them. I truthfully dont suffer from that problem. regards and thanks Marcus

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Agreed, I hear people over the years talk about all sorts of strange things that have happened, and I think to myself... am I naive?  But I personally believe that a persons belief system and the intentions behind the reading have a lot to do with what you encounter.

I recently went to see Peter Close and he spoke about just this subject.  He basically, in a nutshell said.. if you look for deceit you will find it, when you look for negativity then you will find that as well.  **shrug** made sense to me  

[painterhypnogirl]

Thanks, Marcus!  Hi Fliesatnite!  Good points.  I agree, and I love the quote by Peter Close.  One problem I've encountered though, when you are surrounded by negative people and are an empath, it pays to protect yourself.  If I didn't, with the kind of clients that I usually work with, I'd be an anxious wreck.  I work with a lot of people who have high anxiety levels.  When I first started, I couldn't figure out why my heart would be racing and I'd be getting all jittery.  When I figured out I was empathically feeling their energy, I learned to put up "imaginary" walls of steel between us.  It works for me.  Probably because I'm one of those people who believe we create our own experiences.  I created protection for myself so I can continue to help with just my own energy.  LOL!

[fliesatnite]

Hi PHG!

Good points, that explains why my jaw tightens and I become very shaky and shivery and get chills and sweat all at the same time!  That's a great way to protect yourself, I'll have to make it a point to put up a wall the next time it happens.

On the other hand, the side effects I just mentioned are also my own little way of feeling that someone out there is trying to get my attention.  

Must be a happy medium in there somewhere.  No pun intended!  lol

[majour ka]

Hi peeps, a great way to start any reading is to match some ones posture and match thier breathing, its great for tuning in to some one else. By the same token, if you are aware your own breathing has changed you will know you have possbly picked up some one elses energy. By breathing steadily with three deep breathes should also clear thier energy that you have picked up. I agree with HPG it can be mentaly and physicaly tireing bieng sensitive. Imagine how I feel, I run a couple of very bars in the middle of a very busy holiday resort !! It can help when giving a reading to mentaly raise your vibration so your not dragged down into thiers and try and bring thier patterns up again.

Fliseatnite,As for you freinds misty energy, how are they generaly? are they well? happy? how does your energy feel when you are around them? Ask your Gran what it is? you may get an answer, regards Marcus.

[fliesatnite]

Marcus,

Thank you for the suggestions! As far as my friends misty energy I should give you a bit of a rundown:

He is a co-worker.  One day I walked into his office and saw this 'mist' behind him.  I thought he'd been dusting!  I didn't say anything to him.  A second time I saw it, I walked in to his office again and it was beside him, near his desk.  Again, I didn't say anything, as I wasn't really sure what it was. (I'm a little slow on the uptake with this one!)  The third time I saw it, I walked in to his office and it was ON his desk.  I looked at it and asked him... what is that? He couldn't see it, but again I thought he'd been dusting... sort of like when you pound on a dusty pillow or sofa.  Then this mist sort of rolled around like a fog and then became sort of pointy at one end and floated of in the direction of where it was pointing, and then dissapated.

His energy is fine, his mind is open and he's not a negative person.  In fact, when I told him about what I kept seeing he was open to the idea and we began to discuss the possibilities.  Then I smelled fresh pine, I mentioned this to him and he said he was told that his biological father was a construction worker.(he was adopted as an infant and never met his biological parents) My co-worker doesn't tap into my energy level at all.  I am also an empath, so I have a tendency to take on other people's emotions and his are pretty stable.  (Thankfully, since I sit next to him 8 hours a day!) lol

He even asked me to tell him what the 'white cloud' means and quite frankly, I have no idea.  It's the only one I've ever seen.  Have you any idea as to what it is?  Or am I in the wrong forum to be asking that question?

[majour ka]

He even asked me to tell him what the 'white cloud' means and quite frankly, I have no idea.  It's the only one I've ever seen.  Have you any idea as to what it is?  Or am I in the wrong forum to be asking that question?

Hi, i couldnt tell you what it was, maybe you will never know, by the way you described watching it leave, it may well be spirit energy? ive never seen anything the same, so i couldnt realy comment.

As for are you in the right forum to ask? I dont know realy? lol, im just another guy like you using the sight. Best Marcus

[fliesatnite]

Hi, i couldn't tell you what it was, maybe you will never know, by the way you described watching it leave, it may well be spirit energy? Ive never seen anything the same, so i couldn't really comment.

As for are you in the right forum to ask? I don't know really? lol, I'm just another guy like you using the sight. Best Marcus

Spirit energy?  Could you elaborate on that for me? I am not completely sure what that is.

I'm probably not in the right forum, I don't think there is a forum for THAT question!  LOL  

Oh, and by the way... I'm a She :vavoom:

[majour ka]

Spirit energy?  Could you elaborate on that for me? I am not completely sure what that is.

Hi, as in it could be the energy of some one close to your friend that you able to see

Oh, and by the way... I'm a She :vavoom

:redface: Lol sorry ! my mistake    I dont know how long you have been aware of bieng sensetive but it sounds as though its a very natural gift for you, regards Marcus x

[fliesatnite]

Spirit energy?  Could you elaborate on that for me? I am not completely sure what that is.

Hi, as in it could be the energy of some one close to your friend that you able to see

Oh, and by the way... I'm a She :vavoom

:redface: Lol sorry ! my mistake    I dont know how long you have been aware of bieng sensetive but it sounds as though its a very natural gift for you, regards Marcus x

I was thinking it was his biological father, evidently he'd heard a rumor somewhere that he passed.  I think his Adoptive Mother has all of his records, it's not a 'sealed' case or anything.  He just doesn't want to ask his adoptive parents for the info.  kind of a sensitive issue I suppose.

I have been aware of being a sensitive since I was very young.  Not to mention other fun gifts I possess.  When I was in my early teens my family told everyone they thought I was a witch!!!!  LOL