Why?

[El-Bortukali]

it's the same thing.it would still be 'me' i would still be aware of my existance.

[El-Bortukali]

What i want? Everlasting death,to end my individuality. i mean,i don't think that returning to the source would necessarily kill me or end my individualit,i'd still be alive though i  would have no awareness,what  iwant is complete destruction of my soul.

[El-Bortukali]

Nope?

[blade5x]

The highest plane the Atomic Plane(sp? wrong plane?), its description says that individuality is lost. So there's hope for you

[Stookie]

The "you" that you know yourself as might not exist. So in that case, "you" won't exist, if that makes you feel any better. It's hard to imagine this because it's all you've ever known yourself as. But there is different "you" that probably wants to exist, or you wouldn't be here.

But who knows, complete destruction of the soul (if it exists) might be a liberation.

[El-Bortukali]

you know,my 'me'  that i have right now,might not exist.but there'll be other's 'me' i don't want that. i want to return to that state where i was before being created on a soul level.

[Stookie]

Sounds good to me

[El-Bortukali]

Najs! so,how do i get there? (i know i'll have to die first, ,but i  want this life to end naturally,so when i die i know what to do)

[rave_master_naruto]

?? :question:  . Why is it that you hate life? why is it that as if you've discovered the capabilities of life 100% ?...    

:cat:well i guess, you are only frustrated at something.   ... just cheer up dude. :cheerleader2:  :cheerleader:  :celebrate:   bcause theres more that you can discover on life.

[El-Bortukali]

Come Again? i hate life? there is no purpose for Immortality.in my pinion Immortality is a anormaly.on the real world,the purpose of existance is :born,grow up,mate,die.
now that makes sense. dying-going to the  spirit world,dying- goes on,goes on. is just a game i don't want to play

[El-Bortukali]

Don't you worry.I'll make my 'real me' do what i want.

[blade5x]

Don't you worry.I'll make my 'real me' do what i want.

Except you'll probably be in a different state of mind then It will probably be like when you get wasted, except the other way around

[El-Bortukali]

lol,i've never got'wasted' so i don't know the feeling.anyway,my Will is so powerful that i will undoubtly implantt the idea on my 'other me'

[Stookie]

I don't think that it's immortality that you don't like, but your own concept of immortality. It's not your identity you should want to discard, but your concepts of your identity.

[El-Bortukali]

what do you think my concept of immortality is all about?

[Selski]

...what a funny thread...  

Sarah

[El-Bortukali]

good for you?....

[Stookie]

what do you think my concept of immortality is all about?

It sounds to me that you think it's about living forever, and you constantly have to find things to do to keep you occupied. As though it would get really boring.

(Really, this whole thread makes me question my own philosophical concepts)

[El-Bortukali]

but isn't immortality all about living forever?

[GANAMOHA]

but if you were to experience such a thing a spiritual death the whole concept of freedom wouldn't be there at all so that would be point less

[James S]

but isn't immortality all about living forever?

Yes.
But you probably don't remember having lived before do you?

We've all lived many many lifetimes.
The soul cannot be destroyed. Basic physics - you can't destroy energy. The soul is exactly that - energy. Most of us don't remember the last life we lived, so we either seek to find out about it, don't care about it, or (depending on our belief systems) point blank refuse to consider we even had a past life.

When I read threads like this one the first thought I have is people who see no point to living this life are running away from thier own soul - their REAL SELF.

Consider two polar opposites:
1) Fear ------- Love
2) Ego  ------- Soul

Our souls are light - energy - love. Through fear, the Ego (physical body consciousness) tries to keep us away from the light. That's why we see such depths of despair and depression in people who are hugely egotistical or narcissistic. For them there probably isn't much point to living because they're running so far away from their own soul's choice for what they should be, what they should do or what they came to experience or heal in this life.

Now that I'm working full time in an institute for spiritual studies I've met a number of people who've found out what their soul's choice or direction for this lifetime is. In each case it has literally saved their lives.

Blessings,
James.

[El-Bortukali]

No,i don't remember any past life.
it's not i don't see any point living this life.i see the point of living one life.not thousands and thousands.
if we are supposed to do something,wouldn't that make us remember the objective?

[James S]

The thing is our soul DOES remember.
Its all part of the soul's evolutionary journey.
The actual purposes are typically well above the understandings of our physical consciousness. It's usually only when we wake up from this "unconscious" world we live in and take notice of the signposts along the way, the ones that come by way of dreams or"coincidences", that it starts to all make sense.

Blessings,
James.

[Agent 008]

Suicide is ok for those searching for power beyond this prison.  Just as you ignorant people search for your illusionary love I seek power beyond human understanding.

I'm no doctor, but it sounds like you're in desperate need of attention.  

I sort of think this is not your decision...YOU are just a small
part of the REAL YOU who makes these decisions...who
you think you are is just your EGO...when you die, all of this
will become apparent...your REAL SELF is much more intelligent,
so stop worrying so much & try to enjoy the little time you have here
to be ALIVE

I might be a newbie, but I know a great post when I see one.  Well done.

my Will is so powerful that i will undoubtly implantt the idea on my 'other me'

Spoken like a true Irishman.  

I don't think that it's immortality that you don't like, but your own concept of immortality. It's not your identity you should want to discard, but your concepts of your identity.

Well stated, Stookie.  I got the same impression from reading his posts as well.

Yes.
But you probably don't remember having lived before do you?

We've all lived many many lifetimes.
The soul cannot be destroyed. Basic physics - you can't destroy energy. The soul is exactly that - energy. Most of us don't remember the last life we lived, so we either seek to find out about it, don't care about it, or (depending on our belief systems) point blank refuse to consider we even had a past life.

When I read threads like this one the first thought I have is people who see no point to living this life are running away from thier own soul - their REAL SELF.

Consider two polar opposites:
1) Fear ------- Love
2) Ego  ------- Soul

Our souls are light - energy - love. Through fear, the Ego (physical body consciousness) tries to keep us away from the light. That's why we see such depths of despair and depression in people who are hugely egotistical or narcissistic. For them there probably isn't much point to living because they're running so far away from their own soul's choice for what they should be, what they should do or what they came to experience or heal in this life.

Now that I'm working full time in an institute for spiritual studies I've met a number of people who've found out what their soul's choice or direction for this lifetime is. In each case it has literally saved their lives.

Blessings,
James.

Wow, that was deep James.

Thanks for sharing.  

[Mitch]

Ivaldi, I have to agree somewhat..
Well, that humans are $%$^@$!.
I don't think you should hate yourself specifically though, you should try to help the situation.

Animals lived here before us, in their non-industrialized, 'perfect' world.
Humans come along, kill and eat all of the animals, wipe out their habitat, pollute the air, take all of the fish, mine all of the rock.

Relatively soon, the Earth will be basically fully depleted of all of its natural resources, because humans came.

We're like a plague.