an issue with electrolytes...

[Astir]

I can remember projecting all of three times in the past six months. Every time there was the same consequence...an electrolyte imbalance right afterward. I usually have a partner with me, someone who can verify our exchanges. By my friends account I project far more often than I can recall, an unaware projector for the most part.

Funny thing is, those times that I remember which I (up until recently) thought were the only few occassions I had projected...I woke up with an electrolyte imbalance that's the worst I've ever had or had heard of. I couldn't even stand up without fainting. I had tunnel vision for hours.

My friend...same friend...told me what was wrong after a doctor friend and I were trying to figure it out for hours. Problem solved after seemingly ineffective litre upon litre of water all I needed was a gatorade.

So,
is this typical or...?

[Astir]

Why would simply remembering have caused this?

A doctor couldn't possibly call it a hallucination, I experienced extreme physical symptoms that indicated something was terribly wrong.

I researched my symptoms...they were actually those of a severe electrolyte imbalance. My pulse was so rapid and so faint...I could only find it by placing my hand over my heart. I couldn't find it otherwise. My state of mind, was that of someone who was oxygen deprived and this lasted well over 4 hours. The first time, I did almost go to the emergency room. I'm not exaggerating this at all, and it's not a minor problem despite being fixed easily as soon as replenishing the electrolytes...
If it ever happened and I was alone, I would not be able to go to the store for some poweraid or gatorade. In fact, I cannot even walk across a room when it happens as the tunnel vision and dizziness I experience are that intense.

I've just never heard of this happening. Depending on how you think of it, sense can be made. but I've heard nothing of it before...

[blade5x]

That's wierd... but are you sure you are not getting up to quickly?

If I lay down for a while, like if I'm watching TV, and abruptly get up to go get something, I get really dizzy and vision goes all brown and cloudy for a few seconds, and I stand there for a few seconds until I'm re-stabilized and I'm fine.

Just buy some Gatorade and put right next to your bed or right next to you when you project.

This sounds really wierd, I hope you get it fixed.

[Astir]

It happened again, yesterday.
After another session that I could recall. This time there was gatorade in the house. I know many people here will argue, that there is no way an OBE or astral projection can harm you physically. With the evidence that is building, I have to on my own behalf, disagree.

Also, I'd like to remind those skeptical, that this has never happened to me at all otherwise. I've never experienced this, except upon coming out of these sessions.

[Astir]

I meant it makes sense that having an electrolyte imbalance
would cause you to feel like you are projecting..

But there is no explanation for its rapid onset...if dehydration caused it, it would have taken a day (without water) at least to manifest.

And had it been happening during the projection I would have noticed the feeling in my heart which always accompanies the imbalance. It feels like my heart is about to give out. The first time it happened, I half expected to die, that's how it felt.

Though I do see what you are saying...
The imbalance causing the projection.

[Phasor]

I researched my symptoms...they were actually those of a severe electrolyte imbalance.

"Self diagnosis is a dangerous practice. In fact, it is one of the most likely ways to get a misdiagnosis."
The symptoms you describe could be hypoglycemia, but they may be something else. This is not something you want to mess with. It might be a good idea to see a physician.

[The imbalance medical condition causing the projection.]

That's quite possible, I guess.

[Astir]

"Self diagnosis is a dangerous practice. In fact, it is one of the most likely ways to get a misdiagnosis."
The symptoms you describe could be hypoglycemia, but they may be something else. This is not something you want to mess with. It might be a good idea to see a physician.

[The imbalance medical condition causing the projection.]

That's quite possible, I guess.

The only instances I've ever diagnosed myself, I've been correct every time. I'm not exactly ignorant in the field of human physiology...I'm more medically literate than the greater population, but that's a story for another time.

It is an electrolyte imbalance, because as I've said (not only have my symptoms indicated) the situation lasted hours and ceased almost immediately and only after I replenished my electrolytes...after water had done nothing, after food (thus eliminating the possibility of hypoglycemia). And no, I hadn't been dehydrated, or malnourished prior to.

If you looked at it through my eyes, you'd see only the unusual correlations between the two. I'm not waving a flag here, trying to say it's dangerous (not at all), I'm just trying to understand the rapid onset of this condition the times I have actively set out to project...

It's shocking to come to...and feel like that...

[Astir]

Enough said.
You've answered my questions to the best of your ability.

Now I'll go see a doctor who won't even begin to investigate the matter with or without being subjected to my prodding. I don't think I'll be projecting for a while.

[Mydral]

Enough said.
You've answered my questions to the best of your ability.

Now I'll go see a doctor who won't even begin to investigate the matter with or without being subjected to my prodding. I don't think I'll be projecting for a while.

Maybe you should also see someone who gives alternative medicine and knows about astral traveling. Doctors    sometimes are not very understanding and well when they want to know the reasons for the imbalance...... you can figure out the rest.

[LavenderGirl]

I feel the same way, it takes a toll on your body. I have decided to post pone projecting for a while. I don't think I'm ready for it. I figure if I was ready I wouldn't hear so many strange roaring sounds right before projecting. I'll give it a rest for now. After all there is a demanding but fulfilling physical life to attend to...and I'll keep saying
that once we leave the physical for good were probably going to miss it and regret APing. Anyways much love to all.

lavender

[Nay]

That strange roaring sound, right before you exit....is normal.    Have any of you had a look in the FAQ section?

[blade5x]

I feel the same way, it takes a toll on your body. I have decided to post pone projecting for a while. I don't think I'm ready for it. I figure if I was ready I wouldn't hear so many strange roaring sounds right before projecting. I'll give it a rest for now. After all there is a demanding but fulfilling physical life to attend to...and I'll keep saying
that once we leave the physical for good were probably going to miss it and regret APing. Anyways much love to all.

lavender

Regret doing something during when I have would have been sleeping anyway?

[Nay]

You know what?  I'm going to change my mind and say that, 'that strange roaring sound, right before you exit', may NOT be normal.  What I mean by that is, normal is as normal does....lol.  As I reflected back on when I first came here, the loud roaring, the voices, hands, laughter, music, or calling of your name, is all about what we think we might hear.  At that point, I had read sooooo much off and on the net, my mind was swimming.  But as time went on, these things faded.. I think because I realized I didn't need to 'feel' those things in order to get to my goal.  Too funny it took me this long to put the 'your own reality' analogy to mind, but that's irony. 

That's been happening a lot to me lately.

[LavenderGirl]

Blade5x and Nay,

I understand that we AP while we sleep whether we are aware of it or not. I just don't believe in obsessing
over getting a conscious AP. If it happens it happens, if not "oh well" Thank you for taking me back to the archives Nay. However those roaring noises scare me off whether I have control over it or not. My two spirit guides, an older man and a woman visited me before, but again I was too afraid to acknowledge them (I went in paraly/froze.)This is where I tell myself that I'm not ready for this. If it happens during lucid dreaming fine and if not then I have to accept that I'm not ready to keep taking the plunge. Maybe if you share some of your experiences I'll be less fearful.

Much love,
Lavender  (Sorry for taking up this post, maybe this should be another post altogether)

[Nay]

Ummmm..no need to get all huffy.  I was just saying.... In fact, I thought I was trying to be positive by saying everyone has control of their own reality.  If you feel you are not ready, then great!... least you know your own mind.

Good luck!

[Astir]

It's okay if the topic derailed, always happens. Fine by me if someone needs help and finds it here.





PS Who smited me? Show yourself, you coward 
I actually don't like this smite/karma thing. To me it's another way to learn what people think of you, something I rather ignore completely.
I will never smite anyone.