fasting?

[nwb]

has anyone ever fasted on purpose, or maybe not on purpose like you were sick or something and just couldnt eat.....and had more obes?  i didnt use to fast but i barely ate any food , it took a few months before i was obeing every night.....and anyway i started eating tons of food and i lost my ability to obe, and i also lost my "astral sight"  i have tried to fast now to get my "visions" and my obes back, but i always end up getting extremely hungry by the end of the first day and i just HAVE to eat something, is there a safe and healthy way to fast that wont end up with me starving to death on the first day? 

i dont know if its smart but i know that when i worked at my old job i didnt really have time to eat during the day so i just ended up eating very little, it was enough to survive on and i had visions during the day almost all day, and i had tons and tons of obes...to get a more detailed account of it, i ate about 2 tacos for lunch, and a double cheeseburger for dinner , this was all id eat for weeks....it made me feel like i was out of my body ALL the time, even while awake and especially while dreaming....for some reason i was never hungry tho, but now i always getting starving....anywho i will stop going on and on and just ask again if theres a healthy way to fast with minimum hunger?

[BadCookie]

Whats the point your making your body weak so you can OBE if you want to be out then just die .

[nwb]

um hey, sup, did you know that when i dont eat nothing i dont get weak?  i never said i wanted to kill myself and i just wanted to maybe induce some more obes, basically when i eat less food i get weak for maybe a week then i get a lot stronger, i asked a doctor about why this happens he said something about because my body gets used to living on pure protein? i dont quite remember his exact response but it had something to do with protein ....and lots of people have fasted thru out history and i dont think dying was there main intent, so damn dont get mad at me for wanting to fast

[BadCookie]

  i see, thats cool i would try that but i love carbs to much need them for the brain.

[WinglessAngel]

has anyone ever fasted on purpose, or maybe not on purpose like you were sick or something and just couldnt eat.....and had more obes?  i didnt use to fast but i barely ate any food , it took a few months before i was obeing every night

Hi, I just joined and I wanted to reply to your post since neither of the previous replies were helpful in any way.

You are correct in your assumption. Fasting does indeed help to induce OB's.

In fact, Shamans commonly fast to induce an altered state of concioussness. It was through starvation that they came to discover their powers and the astral world.

Most of our bodily energies are spent working on digestion and bodily functions, but when we fast that energy goes unused and we can use it for psychic porposes.

[nwb]

ahh yes thank you wingless angel, from the previous post up there the guy was kind of hinting that if i wanted to fast i might as well want to die, which is not true at all, ive heard that fasting is actually healthy if you do it right.......i just need to research the right way to do it so i dont screw anything up.....and yes ive head of shamans and monks fasting for either 20 or 40 days, cant quite remember which one, to induce spiritual experiences and etc, i heard that some famous monk (cant remember who) would never fast for more then 20 days, as to make sure that he didnt die....if i fasted i dont think it would be anything near 20 days, maybe just for 5 days or something more safe, and see if i induce any obes or see i if i just altogether feel better....but thanks for the reply!

[Sadd-e Eskandar]

If that'd be possible i think we'd see the Africans OBE, pretty much all day long.

[WinglessAngel]

If that'd be possible i think we'd see the Africans OBE, pretty much all day long.

Well cleary you dont know much about the subject, and you problaby havent been able to astrally project yet with that closeminded outview of yours.

You have to actually WANT to project if your fasting. African people are more concerned with daily living and taking care of their family. I'm sure OB is not at their top of their list of things to do for the day.

[WinglessAngel]

ahh yes thank you wingless angel, from the previous post up there the guy was kind of hinting that if i wanted to fast i might as well want to die, which is not true at all, ive heard that fasting is actually healthy if you do it right.......i just need to research the right way to do it so i dont screw anything up.....and yes ive head of shamans and monks fasting for either 20 or 40 days, cant quite remember which one, to induce spiritual experiences and etc, i heard that some famous monk (cant remember who) would never fast for more then 20 days, as to make sure that he didnt die....if i fasted i dont think it would be anything near 20 days, maybe just for 5 days or something more safe, and see if i induce any obes or see i if i just altogether feel better....but thanks for the reply!

nwb, how long did you fast for before you started OB'ing?

[Sadd-e Eskandar]

Well cleary you dont know much about the subject, and you problaby havent been able to astrally project yet with that closeminded outview of yours.

You have to actually WANT to project if your fasting. African people are more concerned with daily living and taking care of their family. I'm sure OB is not at their top of their list of things to do for the day.

I have yet to try.It's not something that cativates me.But thanks for telling me what i have done or haven't =)

[WinglessAngel]

I have yet to try.It's not something that cativates me.But thanks for telling me what i have done or haven't =)

Well, I dont mean to sound rude, but why are you here then?

[Sadd-e Eskandar]

That's a bit late.You were rude before, heh.I don't mind.

Check out my thread to find out why.

[nwb]

winglessangel it took many months of not eating barely any food to finally start obing every night for literally 3 months, i was just in a situation tho that i never felt like eating, because i certainly didnt do it on purpose, i live in a place now where i eat lots of food because i always feel like eating, i think it ties in with the people im around, and my job situation, the situation i was in was i was living with my dad, and he had some strange eating habits, and i think they rubbed off on me, and now i live with people who eat a lot of food, and well, guess what, i eat lots of food now too....i think i am just sensitive to people......i should call up my dad again and be like, hey! can i live with you again for a while? i want to obe again!  he would be like uhhh what? haha ......cause i dont even think my dad knows what an obe is

[WindGod]

has anyone ever fasted on purpose............. .if theres a healthy way to fast with minimum hunger?

nwb, yes I have in the past when work and life style  permitted, for health purposes.

Most of the guidance on fasting recommends adjusting your diet toward  mostly fruit and vegetables, to carefully prepare for a fast and to gradually come off of or break a fast with light foods like fruit juice, then more solid food for the next meal.

There are stories of people having problems after breaking a fast with baked potato for example.

Very important to stay hydrated also while you fast. A popular drink is lemon juice with water and a small pinch of cayenne pepper.

That's very interesting that fasting increased your OBEs. During a survival course I had limited food and did a lot of hiking, so that the exertion, lack of food, and stress, stimulated intense hypnogogic visions before going to sleep at the end of the day.

Just eating a hamburger, then doing a fast doesn't sound too good to me. Recommend you work more toward a vegetarian diet to prepare for fasting.

Some people do get carried away though. I remember a guy who attempted to transition to a pure fruitarian diet. He got thinner and thinner, looked like a walking skeleton. Wouldn't listen to anyone, and eventually died of starvation.

I think the ultimate is supposed to be Prana yoga breatharian, but that is obviously a very rare and advanced practice.

I wish that I had a month off work to do a long fast with the lemon juice and Cayenne. Oh yeah, you shouldn't be working when you fast.

good luck......

[Spite]

nwb, I feel as though fasting might not be your problem to successfully acheiving an obe. Although I am not you, but I do have something important to share.

Achieving OBEs has to do with your mentality more then your physical state. Alot of this has to do with how you think and feel. By worrying about NOT having an obe, will make you NOT have one. Your mentality should stand firm by 'being excited by the exit you are going to have later tonight!'; it may feel wierd to be saying this to yourself, but if you feel it to be true it will happen. This works for EVERYTHING, so when you think of someone...think something good and something good will happen; when you prepare for work, feel as though its going to be a good day or the day will go by quickly...I bet you've done this before and never realized your wish came true.

You should watch the movie "The Secret" and learn about the Law of Attraction. It really is the way to think about your daily life.

Fasting, from what I believe, is something you should do when you need to shift your energy inwards for reflection/healing/anything to do with cleansing your spirit. You should know when the time is right for a fast and prepare for the shift; I don't think it should be done just to get an OBE....Again, I am not you, some people know what is right for themselves.

Before I go, I had a drought of 3 years of not having OBEs. I thought of everyway to get them to happen. I realized that I was worrying too much about making them occur rather then what I was going to do when I was there. I also realized that this was true about life; if I felt this way then thats what happened...Its a system of "Ask and you shall recieve" BUT ALSO "God works in mysterious ways."

Makes you think don't it?

Spite

[AndrewTheSinger]

One thing to do after you start being more successful is to take note of everything that you can remember prior to the experience. Things like the state of mind when falling asleep, localized sensations of warmth and tremors, visual and auditory perceptions, etc.

It can help you figure out your own way of achieving the desired state. Knowing what to aim for is also good during those times that it feels like you forgot how to do it.