Ok This is Getting Ridicolous

[blade5x]

Today I induced Sleep Paralysis, and heard someone right next to me saying "Boo!" and that scared me, almost made me leave SP, I was borderline enter/exit, but I decided to go back deeply into that state again. This time there were no freaky noises. I wait a little bit, and I think I got ejected without consent as I felt myself float out through my feet and float up into the air, and slowly float down like the peice of paper and touch down by my door.

I lost it here. I STARTED TALKING TO PORKY PIG! WHY? I have no idea, and I guess I wasn't lucid enough to realize how messed up everything was. My room was way off, and see him sitting on my couch, so I'm just like "hey, what's up" and I get into this brief conversation with him, most of which I can't remember at this point anymore. I leave my room, and I see my brother open his door and walk out to me. I grab him by the arms, and tell "Hey, this an OBE, or a dream" and he gets this shocked looked on his face and looks at me all funky and starts slowly walking away from me, goes back into his room and shuts the door (he's still not awake, I'll ask him if he remembers anything, I hope one day I can achieve a shared dream). After that I just woke up.

My OBEs used to be so real, now they are no better than a dream (FAs are more realistic now to me).

I think it's because in my first few OBEs, I was hyper-aware. Now my awareness seems to be sub-par to that of waking reality. I'll need to fix this. Either that I must be losing conciousness while in Sleep-Paralysis and having dreams begin with me in Sleep-Paralysis.

[knightlight]

LOL thats pretty funny.  I wouldnt consider this a bad experience, its just strange and funny.  I think everyone goes through phases like this.  Stick it out.  You've read enough of my experiences I'm sure to realize that not all of us can have straight up OBE's.

[Selski]

Hi blade

That made me laugh!

I agree with knightlight. 

I think there is a tendency for some projectors to only share their best/rational/sensible/celestial experiences - very true for a lot of authors (IMO).  And so readers imagine that OBEs are just that.  All higher planes and meetings with more spiritual beings bathed in light, finding the meaning of life, love and the price of fish, and so on.  It can be like that, don't get me wrong (I've had one or two experiences of that nature), however, these authors tend to skip the experiences where everything is wrong and upside down and you end up chattering to god knows who, having a perfectly intelligent conversation at the time, only to completely forget it when you come round (or find that it didn't make any sense at all!).

It's very easy to put the "odd" experiences in the bottom drawer to be forgotten about and just portray the good stuff - but in my opinion it's almost deceitful as for the likes of us who are just starting out, it makes us wonder what the hell is happening when we have the odd ones.

That is why I particularly like Robert Peterson as an author - he tells it like it is.  I have also just finished reading Oliver Fox, who also wrote honestly (IMO) and didn't skip over the failed/brief attempts.

It's not that I think some authors are lying, but more that they are not telling the whole story and leaving out the more nitty gritty experiences, such as those that last all of 3 seconds and are not very interesting to read about.  Not that they need to add the experience per se, but it would be good if they explained that there was a good deal of these types of experiences as well.

And also about the "realness" of your experiences.  I think they are all "real", just on different levels or dimensions or whatever term you wish to use.  So an experience that might seem less "real" may be because it's at a level which is less familiar than the physical level, therefore it appears less "real".  Which is why a classic RTZ OBE is deemed the most "real" of OBEs, because it appears to be very close to the physical environment.  It depends on your beliefs too.  What is real and what is not real?  Is it just the physical that is real to you, and dreams etc are not real?  And so on and so on...

Does that make sense? 

Sarah

[CFTraveler]

At least you talked to the Porky Pig.  I've swam in outer space with squids shooting fire out of their butts, and once a cartoon dude (the red baron?) threw me a line to get out of body.  I think it may happen to all of us.  Do you have young kids?  The reason I ask is because I used to get all the angelic figure projections as a teenager and young adult, but ever since I watch cartoons and video games with my son, well, see above.  I wonder if it's connected?
I'm just glad I stopped watching scary movies.

[knightlight]

Yeah I'm convinced everyone on the forums I post at thinks I am completely crazy but if I only posted my meaningful experiences I would only post like twice a year!  What fun would that be?  Besides I think it gives something for the newbies to read and think about.

[Psionic]

Hi blade

Quite an experince you had and I must admit, it is funny. But here is the thing with your experience, it was for real.

I have had similar experiences and I also did some reading on the topic and from what I have learnt, I would say you were in the Astral Plane.

The Astral is known to behave like modelling clay, that is to say, it changes to reflect what you want to see or experience. So there will be times when you experince very odd things.

One rule to keep in mind when it comes to OBE is: To expect everthing and nothing. And I have found this to be true.

[knightlight]

From the sound of it you where definitely in the RTZ, I agree 100% with Psionic.  There are no limitations in the "Astral" so talking to Porky Pig isnt really even wierd.  Seriously.

[blade5x]

Probably right, better see things like Porky Pig instead something that'll scare the crap out of me.

And no I don't have kids - I'm only 19. I don't know why he was there, maybe just one of those random fragmented memories that came up .

I guess I'm advancing slowly up the ladder than without knowing it then. Starting out with probably an RTZ OBE, then a bunch of EPs, and now possibly APs (though I don't ever experience flying through tunnels or anything like that).

[bounda]

during my first OBE, near the end when i fell into a dream, there were a bunch of asian racers in Go-Karts, like the ones in mario-kart they were super tiny, and on top of that the track they were racing on was one of those horse race track things, and it was raining and muddy.

Although, id rather have this thing then see a bunch of crap that freaks me out.

Think about this though, maybe Porky Pig was actually your spirit guide, taking the form most suitable to you, it may not have been your spirit guide, but somone else, it was an example..

[Selski]

(though I don't ever experience flying through tunnels or anything like that).

  Took me 3 years to start experiencing tunnels...and I don't fly through them, it feels like being dragged backwards upside down and head first... I'd rather talk to Porky Pig. 

maybe Porky Pig was actually your spirit guide

This isn't as daft as it sounds.  One of my guides manifests him/herself as Lord Summerisle from the Wicker Man (the original version played by Christopher Lee).  Yes, I'm being serious.  It's because I'm comfortable with the character and trust him.

If you see Porky Pig again, have a chat with him and see if you can remember the conversation next time. 

Sarah

[blade5x]

Will do, but yesterday morning I messed up a WILD and I was sort of bouncing around inside my own body before I feel into a lucid dream state. So I'll let you all know if it happens again. I just wish I remembered what that first convo was about.