can I ask an interdimensional being to let me stay forever?

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Novice:  That was beautifully stated..  I can so relate to you, you have no idea...thank you so much for posting that. 

I've thought about from time to time why my step-mother decided to kill herself...her reason, in a letter she left was basically..me.  I was nine.  Years I carried some kind of heaviness that I couldn't even explain because I couldn't imagine why this woman was blaming me for wanting to die... it was her that was beating and not taking care of me, not the other way around. 

Don't leave your loved ones behind feeling the guilt of why you killed yourself.


Adrian

Hello Blade5x

Quote from: blade5x on September 23, 2006, 18:21:05And about re-incarnation... I don't think it's real. I think this is our only trip - we only go around once. Think about it, unless new souls are being created every second by God, which I don't think I've heard from any serious religion, the current amount of existant souls is not enough to supply our exponentially growing population! No one knows for sure that we come back a second time - so make the best of, and live the longest you can incase this is the only time around.

That is a common misunderstanding. You are thinking in the temporal confines of space and time which are illusions. In the Eternal Now, beyond space and time, every Soul that exists, has ever existed and ever will exists already exists;a Soul only becomes bound to the space-time continuum for a time when the Soul incarnates.

Also, as I mentioned before, individual incarnations do not reincarnate, that is why no one in the Astral remembers and incarnation or intends to reincarnate, all reincarnations are relative to the Higher-Self.

Best regards,

Adrian.
The mind says there is nothing beyond the physical world; the HEART says there is, and I've been there many times ~ Rumi

https://ourultimatereality.com/

RealmExplorer

Quote from: thenoob on September 18, 2006, 18:18:36
As some of you know, I am planning to take my own life within a couple months. I can see my own finish line very clearly and the time is soon. I have been trying to spiritually prepare myself. I have been practicing AP, and meditation several hours a day.

I haven't completely gotten the results that I wanted, but I'm not concerned about that anymore. I'm not going to rush things... though time is ticking I still practice patiently.

I am afraid of physical pain however, and one thing I've been wondering about is, could I ask an interdimensional being to let me stay? Would something like this work? If I explain my situation to them.

Thanks for any advice you can offer. I know this is a strange circumstance, but surely there must be room for my soul in a vast ocean of merciful spirits.

Your words are the words of a quitter who refuses to try to take responsibility for his own actions. Your willingness to embrace chaos is not a result of any external injustice perpetrated upon your person; rather it's the result of your own subconscious thoughts controlling you, which is, more than anything, pitiful and wretched.

You are prisoner to your own fears and inner demons, and you try to not only get others to validate your own inner fears, which it seems like a few on this thread have done, but also to give a name to your Jailor: The External.

I offer these words for you to ponder: FEAR is nothing but an illusion of the mind. A malignant self-propagating illusion. It exists because of Ignorance, because of a Lack of Knowledge. I can think of nothing in all of reality that is worth fearing.

This is no lie: you are your own Jailor, and you will remain that way forever, on this plane or any other,  until YOU learn to control yourself. Your suicide matters not to the universe. It is ultimately as indifferent to this as it is to Cruxifictions or Resurrections.

thenoob

Yes you're right realmexplorer. I never made the claim that my actions will effect the universe. I'm not egotistical to think it really matters. I just wanted to get the spiritual discussions. And while everyone, I believe, is right... and I agree with and accept all the comments in this post, they are still just words... and words by definition are an abstraction of reality. Words ultimately mean nothing. What matters, perhaps, is faith (though this too is pretty abstract), and it's something I'm depleted of.

We can put it down to fear or being a prisoner of self or under the influence of demons, or whatever, but the fact is I'm the one who has to face my day of work, schooling, etc... It's the animal life we live in... We still have to eat and sleep and deal with politics, dramatics, loneliness, the past, future, etc.

It is faith that keeps everyone going and willing to put up with all this stuff. When we lose it, it becomes difficult to even put one foot in front of the other. and what if we don't care about regaining our footing? as cliche as it sounds, whats the point? I've heard 'what's the point' in many support groups I've been apart of, and whenever someone throws it out there the room falls to silence. No one has an answer, because there is no answer. There's just an individuals' faith in continuance. 'What's the point' is a valid comment and impossible to refute. So they say in these groups 'youre right but you have to change your thought processes otherwise it will consume you.' ... You're right realmexplorer... it's just a trap the brain throws itself in. 

anyway I think the whole thread has run its course. I wish I didn't post this but in a way I'm glad I did. It's like a family argument that has been brewing for months. One night everything explodes and it's all put in the open and things won't be the same. Still I feel embarrassed and maybe it's better to keep secrets

Adrian

Hello thenoob,

You did the right thing by raising your feelings here; it is always a good thing to get a wider perspective.

As for "what is the point?"; all you need to know is that there is a "point"; otherwise you would not be here at all. The "point" might not be immediately obvious, but you can be sure there will be a meaning in there somewhere, a meaning that will become clear in the future.

Perhaps this situation itself is a test even.

Believe me; even though I do not know your exact situation, I have seen many, many people come back from the brink of situations that really do see hopeless and have gone on to live the life of their dreams. Remember; it is always the darkest before the dawn.

Kind regards,

Adrian.
The mind says there is nothing beyond the physical world; the HEART says there is, and I've been there many times ~ Rumi

https://ourultimatereality.com/

Sharpe

How would killing urself, NOT solve all your problems? You will be totally lifted off this world, and cease to exist. That's pretty much solved to me?

Adrian

Hello Sharpe,

Quote from: Sharpe on September 25, 2006, 15:03:51
How would killing urself, NOT solve all your problems? You will be totally lifted off this world, and cease to exist. That's pretty much solved to me?

You haven't been paying attention  :-)

I suggest you read this entire thread and you will receive the answer to your assertion; which is erroneous.

Best regards,

Adrian.
The mind says there is nothing beyond the physical world; the HEART says there is, and I've been there many times ~ Rumi

https://ourultimatereality.com/


Vvid1012

noobdude,

My advice to you is to take a vacation.  Get a loan if you must.  Get out of the area you are in for a while--the area you keep recycling all these negative thought patterns and go out and see the world and do exotic crazy things before even considering death.  There is sooooooo much to do and see.  Who cares about fitting into the social network.  Go drive across the country, go rocking climbing, go skydiving or fly a plane, travel to strange and interesting places or countries and find new peopel while you're at it..any way  You may even find that you found your answer somewhere else.  So wake up mate!



Sharpe

I don't want to encourage him!
Heck, i'm happy with my life, i'm just saying that it would solve your problems because you wouldnt be conscious anymore... soooo there wouldn't even be any problem after that lol.

Novice

Quotei'm just saying that it would solve your problems because you wouldnt be conscious anymore... soooo there wouldn't even be any problem after that lol.

Unless, of course, the only thing that exists after death is consciousness itself. In which case that is ALL there is and your problems are far from over.

It has been my experience, and that's all I'm referencing here, that after death we are all part of some sort of sentient energy. So life, like death, is only an illusion. Its what you do with it and what you get out of it that matters.
Reality is what you perceive it to be.

Sharpe

I don't know man, first part ur right, but the second part...
All those "energies" and idea's people have about life after death could be just an illusion, maybe your mind is playing with you. Life after death seems to good to be true for me  :-(.

James S

Hi Sharpe,

Whether or not it seems too good to be true, it quite simply IS true.

When you die, the only thing that ceases is your body.
Your consciousness can never die, it can never cease to exist. Your consciousness, your "soul" is immortal. Only your physical body, the vehicle your consciousness uses while in this physical world is mortal.

Whether or not your belief system can accept life after death makes it no less factual.

The fact that a person's personality, their consciousness exists after the physical body's death has been proven again and again and again by hundreds of mediums world wide, AND by researchers who have taken the time to properly study the work done by reputable mediums.

Have a look at what Adrian has posted relating th "The Direct Voice" -
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php?topic=23899.0

It is just one such example where communication with souls who have passed on into the afterlife has been carefully and thoroughly researched.

Once you can accept that the personality, the consciousness does continue on, you can see why it makes sense that by avoiding challenges or experiences in this life by "opting out", the soul will just end up wanting to come back to do it all again in order to gain the knowledge and understanding from that experience, which is what leads to the soul's growth and evolution.

Blessings,
James.

tripnonastral

hey man, i suffer from social anxiety. really bad, to the point where i loose control of my facial expressions movements and most other behavoir. it really sucks because im in college, ive been trying really hard lately to improve and it seems to be working but ive been living like this for the past 4 years. i dont know what happened, but at the beggining of my senoir year in highschool i lost all my friends, and rumors went around school that i was gay. my confidence shot to zero and all my friends left me. i began to take on strange behavoirs, and this really got to me as i was once viewed as one of the coolest funniest kids in school. anyways, ive never dated but i just met this girl, and we kinda clicked but i bonked excrement up by being really nervous around her and liking her too much, i basically acted like a wussy around her, and gave away all my power. she got bored of me already, i was really depressed fora couple days, but now im recovering, im ready to take another shot at life. before tho this last week, i kept thinking of killing myself. i remember comming home from school hating myself and beating the excrement out of anything i could and crying because i felt alone and tired of living. its hard man but i really say its a good idea to keep living. i still fear going to school, because i have an impossible time having normal conversation with people, and i really am afraid of encountering this girl i met because now things might feel weird around her. i hope i can maintain myself, but anyways, ii just wanted to let you know your not the only person who suffers from things like social phobia. anyways peace man. hope you make the right decision.

Spawn_Xe

hey stick it out till 2012 atleast, gotta see the biggest fireworks show in the galaxy! :)
Why do people journey across the globe before taking a journey within themselves?

tripnonastral

whats happening in 2012? ive heard many things, im fascinated by that date because ive heard something about extraterrestrials comming from a far away galaxy to save us. aka the 2nd comming.

cssc

HI Noob,
   A lot of your problems are physical or chemical, yes?  If you live in an area with a lot of sun..or maybe you could go live in one for 9 months- please do a search on sungazing and solar healing on the Internet before you make a final final decision.
  I wish I had known about this in April, but being in MN it's too late to start now, so I can't say from personal experience. I got up to 2 minutes of gazing before it started being cloudy a lot.  I've known since a child though that I wouldn't go blind if I looked at the sun.
   I have read many testimonies of the results of this program. Please give it a try if you can. It is supposed to take the anger away as well. (& fear with it).
    I do understand- I've been suicidal pretty much since I was 18 yrs old. I am a spirit filled Christian (since 2000 when I got divorced)who hasn't been to church for a few years, I strongly believe in hell which is probably why I'm still around.  But I wanted to AP because I don't think the Christians know everything (AKA doing something in itself isn't necessarily wrong [if it doesn't break the law of love]). I just wanted to say because of my few experiences I have found a little bit about where it is I'm going in this life. I have had 35 unhappy years..not as bad as yours, but unhappy & seemingly pointless (that's the worst for me), but I believe things are beginning to change now. I finally have hope.

  Interestingly enough, the bible Christians say we have to say things in faith, & I never really saw the result of affirmations til I really wanted to AP. Now I understand how important my words are.
   Sometimes I try to go someplace & I'm not allowed. The 2 times I really learned something i trusted my sub-higher self- God- whoever it was, & just said "OK, take me where you think I need to be in this dimension."
    I haven't had any real, real time projections, but very close, & have never met another entity. I am always clear in my mind that I don't want to meet one. Maybe this will help you?
   If you have been trying to get out but can't go to saltcubes website. That worked for me easily. Think & say AP all day. & do the reality checks. But don't completely screw up your sleeping schedule like i did.
    I want to say as well, when i was 14, feeling brutally alone, friendless, & hated my family, I had a very real dream in which a human that I couldn't make out ( an old guy-maybe my uncle that had died very recently)told me "God loves you, & he's watching out for you"
       I know it is very hard for you to see in your very physical world, but God loves you, & He's watching out for you.  He is not a respector of persons.
     Watch your words, & please don't do it.

                            C

blade5x

Quote from: Spawn_Xe on October 02, 2006, 13:35:42
hey stick it out till 2012 atleast, gotta see the biggest fireworks show in the galaxy! :)

Hmm... do they give out free shirts? I'd like to take one to the afterlife so everyone knows I was there to see it all end :)

James S

Quote from: blade5x on October 02, 2006, 21:58:53
Hmm... do they give out free shirts? I'd like to take one to the afterlife so everyone knows I was there to see it all end :)

So something like "I was at the end of the universe and all I got was this lousy T-shirt"?

:-)

Novice

QuoteSo something like "I was at the end of the universe and all I got was this lousy T-shirt"?

LOL ... too funny James!!
Reality is what you perceive it to be.

Spawn_Xe

i am sooo creating an restaurant for the event when i ascend haha

DONT PANIC!


p.s bring your towels
Why do people journey across the globe before taking a journey within themselves?