Hypothetical question about powerful magnetic fields...

[solar]

First of all - hey everyone! I look forward to hanging around this forum for a while - looks interesting. I've been very interested in OOBEs since I read Robert Monroe's book almost 6 years ago. Anyway, on to my first question (of many):

This is totally hypothetical, but I couldn't help but wonder...

I've read of experiences where people seem to be unable to pass through electric fences, power lines, or have been effected by electromagnetic fields in other ways. One of the things I really look forward to is just cruising around space, meditating, but it occured to me that if I were to, say, travel near the sun, the magnetic fields, radiation, etc., might be harmful or dangerous in some way.

Hell, if I could I would go inside of the sun... And let's say I wanted to check out a black hole, supernova, etc. Surely if a powerline or electric fence has such drastic effects, a black hole would too.

Any thoughts?

Just a little background on me: At one time I was actively practicing for nearly a month, and when I finally quit trying I had my first near-experience. It felt like grenades exploding underneath my bed, yet my body wasn't moving, and when I realized what it had been it was already gone - the fear or suprise, whatever, had completely thrown me off. I haven't had another experience, and I haven't practiced anymore since then - I've been very busy. I lived in New Orleans when Katrina hit, and since then I've had other things on my mind - but now I'm settled down again, in Nevada, and I'm ready to continue my experiments!

Thanks in advance!

[solar]

well don't all answer at once 

Let me put it this way.

Have you ever experienced stange effects from electromagnetic fields, like powerlines or electric fences, such as inability to travel through or near them?

And have you ever "flown" in close proximity to the sun, or other electromagnetically powerful celestial bodies?

[Zante]

This question isn't so easy to answer unless someone has had a very specific encounter with what you mention. The closest I come to this is an experience I had wherein I was caught between what looked like two giant suns (fierce explosions all around me to boot). The imagery was absolutely fantastic. My body, when I examined it, seemed to have a plastic-like covering which was shining as it reflected all the light. Again, this isn't reliable information for you to take into consideration as it was most unlikely to be the "RTZ". But this sheathe which seemed to appear over me; I interpreted it as being the equivalent of some sort of protective suit.

People tend to believe that all thought is energy and that at some point we might find a way of measuring it reliably. I tend to believe that pure consciousness goes beyond anything energetic and beyond even the concept of having a "state". I don't believe that, at this moment in time, we are capable of comprehending even the questions involved with pure consciousness. So, in regards to how the energy body reacts with other energy "sources", I'm not sure. While it might have a reaction I don't believe that any danger is involved. Again, this is only because I haven't had an opportunity to experience it.

I'm interested in what it is other people have to say regarding this.

I relate to your experience with the "grenades going off" underneath your bed. I'd have described it more like the rumbling of a jet engine right next to me though : p

If you plan on following it up, good luck with your practice.

Edit: Thinking back on it, I seem to remember that while floating between these two giant entities that I was somewhat immobilized. Whether this was due to conflicting "magnetic fields" or my own neglect in trying to move (I was kind of in awe at the time [lol]) I don't know.

[solar]

People tend to believe that all thought is energy and that at some point we might find a way of measuring it reliably. I tend to believe that pure consciousness goes beyond anything energetic and beyond even the concept of having a "state". I don't believe that, at this moment in time, we are capable of comprehending even the questions involved with pure consciousness. So, in regards to how the energy body reacts with other energy "sources", I'm not sure. While it might have a reaction I don't believe that any danger is involved. Again, this is only because I haven't had an opportunity to experience it.

I don't think that thought is energy anymore than data is energy. The way I see it, there are three states of existence that I can think of: Matter, Energy, and Information. Sure the information in this message is technically stored as 1s and 0s, or even more precisely, ons or offs on a silicon chip somewhere, there is no doubt that it is actually information. Matter and Energy cannot be created or destroyed, but information can just by changing matter or energy... Fascinating stuff.

I don't think that thought or the mind are really all that mystical, or separate from physical reality, or beyond energy. I think the mind is similar to the data in this post... The mind itself is not a process, it's more of a... log of brain-activities in the form of information... After all there are many mind altering drugs, and other ways to interact with the mind, such as that link that jub jub posted... I don't believe in consciousness. I don't think it even necessarily exists...

For example, how do you know that everything happening right now didn't really happen three seconds ago?

A hammer falls on your foot. You react in pain, your face contorts, and you say, "OUCH!"

Maybe the hammer fell on your foot, your brain processed the information, contorted your face, sent the signal to your mouth, lungs, and vocal cords to say, "OUCH!" but at this time you're still just becoming 'aware' of your thoughts of three seconds ago? Three seconds later you become aware of the information about your thought processes involving the hammer.

Maybe that's a bit off topic.

While I'm sure this will probably result in conversation about other theories, most opposing, but maybe even one or two supporting mine, I really urge anyone that responds to also keep in mind my original question!