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Skippy

When practicing, I tend to use the Rope Technique quite a lot, as it seems to have more of an effect on me.

However, as I continue to "pull" myself up the "rope", my body starts to tingle and shake quite violently. I'm assuming these are the vibrations that a lot of people talk about getting (but maybe they're not? Can anyone say for sure?) but this alway ends up hindering me. I can't continue with the Rope Technique with my whole body shaking and tingling (it also gets to the point where I'm holding my breath, which is uncomfortable.) I've no idea how to make this stop, or to work around it. Does anyone have any advice?

I do try other techniques...but they don't seem to work very well either.
The Bee Gees and Andy Gibb


Bane

when i tried the rope technique i got nohwere,but i tried this other tech about a door and when i started going through it slammed shut like something didnt want me going through,hhmmm,i think i achieved astral travel once,but i resisted and came back into my body becouse of certain peorsonal cercomstances i would not like to mention,i think basically meditation will eventually help in astral travel/projection. but thats just my openion.
he who contends with nothing is always victorious

CFTraveler

Here's my 2 cents:  In all the time I've been practicing conscious AP I've encountered a few misconceptions about the rope technique and I've observed things in my own practice that may (or may not) help with it:  A very popular misconception I've seen is that people are using the rope technique as a trance technique.  It's not a trance technique, it's an exit technique.  The rope tech. should not be attempted until you think you're in trance already.  Of course there are exceptions to every rule,but I find that when people do it as a trance tech. they find that they don't know what to do once they're in trance, and then it doesn't work as an exit tech, because they have trained their brain to do something else with it.
Another thing that I've discovered in my personal practice is that I find that the rope technique only works for me if I'm totally paralyzed and experiencing vibrations.  Any other time, I've had to use a different technique to get out.
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Nay

I'm with CF on that.  I've used it successfully once.

Skippy

Maybe I am using the rope technique too soon, then. Sometimes I jump into things before I'm fully in a trance.

I haven't had much luck with other techniques, though. I've imagined myself floating out of my body, and that hasn't worked; nor has the roll-out technique.

Grrr! If someone up there doesn't want me to project, please change your mind and give me a helping hand!
The Bee Gees and Andy Gibb


CFTraveler

Skippy:
QuoteIf someone up there doesn't want me to project, please change your mind and give me a helping hand!
You know, that's a technique in itself.  When you get to the hypnagogic state, ask any you can 'stay with'.  You'd be surprised at the response.  But if one responds then you gotta 'go with it.'

Nay

Quote from: Skippy on November 17, 2006, 16:23:29
Maybe I am using the rope technique too soon, then. Sometimes I jump into things before I'm fully in a trance.

I haven't had much luck with other techniques, though. I've imagined myself floating out of my body, and that hasn't worked; nor has the roll-out technique.

Grrr! If someone up there doesn't want me to project, please change your mind and give me a helping hand!

I asked for help and ended having someone grab me around both ankles and pull.  I freaked out!  :lol:  I wouldn't freak now, but boy, back then it was crazy scary to me. :)

Skippy

I've asked for help, before, but nothing has really happened, except for a few times when I felt I've made some progress (so maybe it's been spirits helping out.) I can see why you were freaked out; that would terrify me! I'd probably hang on to my body as tight as a I could!
The Bee Gees and Andy Gibb


Sam

Skippy, the whole body shakes and tingles is a strong symptom of dormant or malnourished energy pathways being used for the first time.  I am not sure if it is the case with you.  If it is then your energy pathways are reacting to a sudden increase in the flow of energy.  If you continue to practice ROPE the shakes will diminish over time as your energy body gets used to it.

Any extra enregy stimulation you can do will boost your energy body.

Just my 2c.

p.s.  This can also happen if you are not fully relaxed.  Tense and relax all your muscles one by one, a couple of times over, just to make sure.

Awakened_Mind

If your physical body is actually shaking stop immediately. Vibrations are a result of a flow in energy that generates the projectable double.

I'd agree with Sam here
Quote from: Sam on December 06, 2006, 10:29:13
Skippy, the whole body shakes and tingles is a strong symptom of dormant or malnourished energy pathways being used for the first time.
p.s.  This can also happen if you are not fully relaxed.  Tense and relax all your muscles one by one, a couple of times over, just to make sure.

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

Lucid_Learner

I felt very close one and my body was shaking crazyly and my heart was pounding. That was really scary so I called it a night for that one.  :|

Peace LL


'Presence is the key to freedom, so you can only be free now' - Eckhart Tolle "Practising the power of now"

CFTraveler

Quote from: Lucid_Learner on December 19, 2006, 10:59:32
I felt very close one and my body was shaking crazyly and my heart was pounding. That was really scary so I called it a night for that one.  :|

Peace LL
One way to find out what's shaking is to get up.  If you end up floating, it turned out that it was your energy body.  If you get up, then you know it was your physical body.  If it is and you don't suffer from diabetes or hypoglycemia or something like that, get thee to a doctor.

Skippy

I worked on the Rope Technique for a bit last night, and this time my body didn't shake. However, I didn't work on it for too long; I've been using several techniques lately, instead of using just one. Maybe I would have started shaking if I'd continued with it a bit longer.
The Bee Gees and Andy Gibb