If you value your health

[Adrian]

Hello everyone,

I do not often recommends books, but when I do you can be sure they are of considerable importance.

I very strongly suggest that everyone reads this is you care at all about your health and the health of your loved ones:

The China Study by Dr. Colin Campbell

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Dr. Campbell is known as the "Einstein of nutrition"; the greatest nutritionist that has ever lived. This book is the result of 20 years of detailed and meticulous research involving 3 internations universities. There are pages of highly respected peer testimonials.

The fact is this; anyone eating meat or dairy products is as good as committing suicide; plain and simple.

Of course I am pleased to see this book because I have always known and said the same thing; we are simply not designed to eat meat and milk intended for baby cows, quite apart from the truly appalling Spiritual implications involved in eating animals.

Seriously; if you care about your health and the health of your families you simply must read this book.

Best regards,

Adrian.

[Astir]

I'm having a rough day.
My karma might get knocked for this, but I can assure you not to bother for my true karma already has been. 
Please do not take offense...but I already can't eat anything on earth without getting sick it seems like...and reading stuff like this, about people restricting their diets so much just because they actually want to...it makes me wish I had a choice in the limitations of my own diet.  Like most people do. Instead I am forced into a very strict diet (for health issues that exist because I was born unhealthy) that it depresses me at times. I never thought not being able to have things once in a while would get me down. What's worse is when I accidentally do consume something I'm not supposed to and become very ill.

Most take for granted they can eat anything put in front of them.
People should allow themselves to occasionally enjoy things like donuts and ice cream and pizza. Live now! We're all going to die anyway. 

I'm just touchy, I am sorry for venting. I'm on the diet from hell. It makes me a little cranky, and still my stomach hurts constantly. But I am beginning to believe most diets are spawned in hell and that pain is an unavoidable side effect.

I also wanted people to be aware that even an excellent diet doesn't always protect you from everything out there.

Again, I'm sorry for the long whine. Bad day. Bad week actually.

[Adrian]

Hello Astir,

I'm having a rough day.
My karma might get knocked for this, but I can assure you not to bother for my true karma already has been. 
Please do not take offense...but I already can't eat anything on earth without getting sick it seems like...and reading stuff like this, about people restricting their diets so much just because they actually want to...it makes me wish I had a choice in the limitations of my own diet.  Like most people do. Instead I am forced into a very strict diet (for health issues that exist because I was born unhealthy) that it depresses me at times. I never thought not being able to have things once in a while would get me down. What's worse is when I accidentally do consume something I'm not supposed to and become very ill.

Most take for granted they can eat anything put in front of them.
People should allow themselves to occasionally enjoy things like donuts and ice cream and pizza. Live now! We're all going to die anyway. 

I'm just touchy, I am sorry for venting. I'm on the diet from hell. It makes me a little cranky, and still my stomach hurts constantly. But I am beginning to believe most diets are spawned in hell and that pain is an unavoidable side effect.

I also wanted people to be aware that even an excellent diet doesn't always protect you from everything out there.

Again, I'm sorry for the long whine. Bad day. Bad week actually.

Please do not feel the need to apologise. I believe your comments are extremely valid.

But you see there is one crucial issue here; programming.

From birth a child is programmed by parents, relatives, teachers etc. to conform to certain things expected by society. By the age of 5 years or 7 years at the latest a person is fully programmed about such things as food, sex, money, "work", vacations; everything in fact;  and all of the other trappings of "modern society" and they are mostly running on that program for the rest of their lives unless they can break free of it; a bit like the Matrix movies.

Food is a typical example; eat 3 meals per day, meat, drink plenty of milk etc. and that is what people are programmed to do without question, even though it is often seriously damaging. Take a look at the state of people around you, particularly children, but do so sympathetically.

I consider you to be fortunate in many respects and you would do well to give thanks to the Universe for that.

I do not know what your "diet from hell" is; but I can guarantee it is alot, what most would class as "better", than the diet I eat by choice.

I have no issues with people enjoying a big meal from time to time; e.g. thanksgiving, this season, birthdays etc., but things have gobe far beyond that.

Fast food is killing people faster than any war ever did. But because, as with tobacco, coffee, alcohol and other dangerous drugs it is a multi-trillion dollar industry, the governments are happy to simply allow people to kill themselves.

The irony there is that if it were not for food abuse, alcohol abuse, tobacco abuse etc., 90% of medical cases and trillions of dollars could be saved each and every year.

Give thanks for your condition and focus on the positive things; and they will be yours.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[Astir]

I do not know what your "diet from hell" is; but I can guarantee it is alot, what most would class as "better", than the diet I eat by choice.

Oh, definitely I eat better than most. Whether I absorb the nutrients or not is the larger issue. I'm only very annoyed with it lately as it does not work more than half the time. I'm supposed to be healing now that I'm on this diet and I'm not making a very smooth or painless recovery. So right now all the restriction just feels like added abuse (thus the from hell reference)...if avoiding the foods that make me sick is not helping, why avoid them at all? I was told it could take a full year to get better.

I was a strange kid growing up. I wouldn't eat meat of any kind until I was about 10. And throughout childhood I had to avoid dairy often as I always had a cough, or some kind of infection. I lived off of bread and fruit until I was 12, then I began eating more of everything. I'm now severely allergic to wheat/gluten. Lactose intolerant, nightshade intolerant and a type 1 diabetic. All of which complicate eating. The benefit is that I see clearly how many things we take in that are just as bad as dairy and meat. Corn and wheat are causing health problems just as numerous. Even soy is more difficult to digest than people realize, and can also cause issues. Too many things that we eat, we should eat very seldom. In this part of the world people are overweight yet still malnourished. It's unbelievable how poorly we eat...but it is also incredibly hard to eat right. It takes more effort than I'm willing to give on a daily basis, but I'm giving it anyway. I'm ready to start feeling better, after years of pain and malabsorption. I just want it sooner than it can happen!

[Adrian]

Hello Astir,

Oh, definitely I eat better than most. Whether I absorb the nutrients or not is the larger issue. I'm only very annoyed with it lately as it does not work more than half the time. I'm supposed to be healing now that I'm on this diet and I'm not making a very smooth or painless recovery. So right now all the restriction just feels like added abuse (thus the from hell reference)...if avoiding the foods that make me sick is not helping, why avoid them at all? I was told it could take a full year to get better.

I was a strange kid growing up. I wouldn't eat meat of any kind until I was about 10. And throughout childhood I had to avoid dairy often as I always had a cough, or some kind of infection. I lived off of bread and fruit until I was 12, then I began eating more of everything. I'm now severely allergic to wheat/gluten. Lactose intolerant, nightshade intolerant and a type 1 diabetic. All of which complicate eating. The benefit is that I see clearly how many things we take in that are just as bad as dairy and meat. Corn and wheat are causing health problems just as numerous. Even soy is more difficult to digest than people realize, and can also cause issues. Too many things that we eat, we should eat very seldom. In this part of the world people are overweight yet still malnourished. It's unbelievable how poorly we eat...but it is also incredibly hard to eat right. It takes more effort than I'm willing to give on a daily basis, but I'm giving it anyway. I'm ready to start feeling better, after years of pain and malabsorption. I just want it sooner than it can happen!

I think wheat, i.e. gluten intolerance is a different matter. That is usually a result of a Celiac or similar diseases which arise genetically or in other ways.

Humans are designed to east this sort of plant material as opposed to meat and dairy products which are generally lethal to the human system.

The China Study book is totally unambiguous; everyone should read it.

It is probably better not to focus on the eating pleasure side of things. I sometimes go on a juice fast and eat nothing for 6 weeks; it puts things in their proper perspective.

Even when I eat I only eat once per day in the evening, and then perhaps half a bowl of rice or pulses of some type.

I hope things improve for you soon; but the more you focus on it the longer it will take; and that is a fact.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[volcomstone]

Hello Adrian,

   Just a few points, I've heard that China has the highest incidents of stomach cancer, so I can only assume that this book is not based on the chinese diet.

   Your idea of "programming" could also be linked to genetic heredity, which means whatever your ancestors digested probaly has an impact on what you can or can't eat (or should and shouldn't) . 

    Your Statement "The fact is this; anyone eating meat or dairy products is as good as committing suicide; plain and simple. "  will also be linked to heredity, and since milk and dairy products are not universal in the evolution of human diet, I would have to say that this statement cannot be all consuming when it comes to individual and their dietary needs. 

   However, I do agree that an all vegatarian diet is the way to go, I would have to say that WILD vegetables and herbs contain many toxic elements ment to deter the potential herbivore.

   Spiritual arguments on meat eating can sucumb quickly to nonsense.  Everybody knows that plants have spirits of their own, and trees are aware of us.  Not to mention how sinister it is that we are even breathing, every oxygen molecule we inhale gets burdened with a dirty carbon atom.  Carbon has been theorized as a major cause of star fusion decline.

   Anyhow, I haven't read the book, but humans and their eating rather disgusts me,  but "life feeds on life".

   Volcomstone 

[Adrian]

Hello Volcomstone,

Hello Adrian,

   Just a few points, I've heard that China has the highest incidents of stomach cancer, so I can only assume that this book is not based on the chinese diet.

   Your idea of "programming" could also be linked to genetic heredity, which means whatever your ancestors digested probaly has an impact on what you can or can't eat (or should and shouldn't) . 

    Your Statement "The fact is this; anyone eating meat or dairy products is as good as committing suicide; plain and simple. "  will also be linked to heredity, and since milk and dairy products are not universal in the evolution of human diet, I would have to say that this statement cannot be all consuming when it comes to individual and their dietary needs. 

   However, I do agree that an all vegatarian diet is the way to go, I would have to say that WILD vegetables and herbs contain many toxic elements ment to deter the potential herbivore.

   Spiritual arguments on meat eating can sucumb quickly to nonsense.  Everybody knows that plants have spirits of their own, and trees are aware of us.  Not to mention how sinister it is that we are even breathing, every oxygen molecule we inhale gets burdened with a dirty carbon atom.  Carbon has been theorized as a major cause of star fusion decline.

   Anyhow, I haven't read the book, but humans and their eating rather disgusts me,  but "life feeds on life".

   Volcomstone 

Thank you for your comments.

The China Study is actually very wide in its scope, and the people involved in China were comparitive studies of people with a vegetarian diet with meat eaters.

Interestingly "western" diseases are escalating in China now due to them copying the "western diet" now that have more money due the economic boom, particularly fast food. That in itself is very compelling evidence.

The proof however is absolute whatever theories or biases people might invent.

On eating vegetation; I have always said that we should eat harvestable foods and that excludes plants that would be killed by for example uprooting. And it is also a fact that harvestable foods are the best for human nutrition.

The fact is there is a food chain in nature; but only humans abuse it.

I read today that there are now 4.8M vegetarians in the USA, half of them Vegans, twice the number of a few years ago and the number are increasing dramatically, so much so that there are now specialist Vegan food stores, restaurants etc. springing up everywhere.

This is just one manifestation of the evolution that mankind is currently experiencing.

Best regards,

Adrian.

[weaver]

this book is an absolutely thought provoking, if not life changing, read.  end of story. 

cheers,
alexis

[karmakillernz]

I bought The China Study on Adrian's recommendation, and I must say I'm surprised I haven't heard more about it. It exposes some startling discoveries that would shake many people's ideas on health and diet down to their core. It should be available to anyone who cares even the slightest about their health and wellbeing.

I've always wanted to pursue a vegan diet, for health and personal reasons, but never did anything about it. I knew it was good for you, but finding the dedication to change and (more importantly) stick with it was extremely difficult. I lived off meat, dairy and especially fast food! However, after reading this book, I no longer have any doubts on whether to change or why I should bother - all the reasons are right here in this book!

I'm sure it will be a challenge, but I know it will be well worth the effort. And I now look forward to trying all the interesting, plant-based foods that I used to scoff at while I ate my cheeseburger...

[ldeeeep]

i became a vegetarian 2.5 years ago, and gradually became vegan.  it really does amazing things for your health.  i haven't had a stress-induced headache or a non-alchohol induced stomachache since i switched.  i have had headaches from over-exertion, but i had those when i was an omnivore.  it also makes going shopping more of a "treasure hunt".....one always finds new vegan foods to eat.  after awhile, meat doesn't seem appetising at all, and nowadays i even avoid the entire meat/cheese section because of the nasty smell.  eventually, the body doesn't think of these things as "food".

the only downsides i can think of is that depending on the area you live in, your selections at restaurants can be limited, you can get grief from people who can't imagine that eating meat and drinking milk is bad for your health (which is when you tell them the amount of pus in milk from udder infections), and that you may need to eat more often as it's hard to find "heavy" vegan meals that take a long time to exit the stomach.

you don't have to be an animal rights zealot to be vegan...you can do it for personal health reasons...

don't have time to read the book?  lots of good information here...

www.veganforum.com

www.milksucks.com

[cavernstoy]

I am about to become a vegetarian.  I haven't eaten any conventional animal products for at least 4 months, partly because of health (synthetic growth hormones, pesticides, antibiotics), but mostly because conventional animals are tortured traumatically.  I don't want to support the meat, dairy, and egg industry any more.  An industry that represses, exploits, and treats animals like products in factories.  Not to mention is a cause of every ecological problem the earth is facing (global warming, famine, depletion of the rain forests, depletion of topsoil, oil crises.)  Did you know that one pound of beef wastes 1,200 gallons of water?

Adrian is totally right.  Our bodies are not designed to eat meat.  Our digestive tracts are about 4 times too long, causing over absorption of animal fat and the growth of harmful bacteria due to the length of time it takes it stays in our bodies.  Why do you think we have to cook the meat?  Our stomach does not have the enzymes to fight the bacteria.  In a time where a plant based diet wasn't available, our species adapted by temporarily eating cooked meat.  Now that its perfectly available, eating animal produces is not only unnecessary, its crazy.  In my opinion, its gluttony.

note-I am going to continue to eat organic raw honey on occasion because organic bees suffer no harm to my knowledge.  It will also help preserve the population, which is dramatically decreasing because of pesticides.  Organic honey is the only animal(insect) product that is actually good for you.

I haven't eaten animal produces for two weeks and I don't ever plan to again.  I feel much better now.  For the past 3 years, I have constantly felt physically ill to some degree.  Since Ive become a vegetarian, Ive felt healthy again.  I urge others to join me.

Thanks

Cavernstoy

[ldeeeep]

 

something that i stumbled across today....by one of our members (great journal)

http://www.louisyagera.com/2006/09/14/going-vegan-improving-the-quality-of-experience-in-the-focus-levels/

[cavernstoy]

I have noticed a difference in my mental clarity.  I have about 3 times more spontaneous lucid dreams than before, I even had a spontaneous WILD.  While meditating, after only a few minutes, I will find myself in a complete full trance.  Its weird, sometimes I get so deep It almost feels like my body starts to dissolve, and I'm nothing but my mind.  This seems only natural that I am progressing, but I am certain that veganism is at least partially responsible, if not entirely.  While eating meat, it almost felt like it was impossible for me to achieve anything, for months.  I think vegetarianism is the best decision I have ever made, not only for the animals, but for myself as well.

Cavernstoy

[ldeeeep]

I was reading the book "Your Hands Can Heal You", and it mentioned that the foods you eat all give you prana energy, however some of the energy is "clean" and some "dirty".  Of course, all the dirty energy foods were meats and a vegan diet was the most clean.  Supposedly this can clear your energy channels and whatnot to improve meditation. 

ah! i found it....page 185...

http://books.google.com/books?id=1ekEAtUD8e8C&pg=PA186&lpg=PA186&dq=%22your+hands+can+heal+you%22+foods&source=web&ots=pPmu-lqG2H&sig=kN-QQYcA38bEhyqLkeAAUcdupDQ#PPA185,M1

[knucklebrain1970]

Ok Folks. What is the solution here? Mom is breastfeeding our 2 month old. She's introduced her to organic formula. Formula is crap full of chemicals and the only organic thing in it is milk. I already understand that eating cow sh*t is probably healthier than milk. She does not have the time to pump milk and is going back to work. So if not formula then what?

Kevin

[Mez]

breastfeeding a baby is the only way to go. period. infants should be breastfed until the age of weaning and then never consume "milk" again... such is the norm in nature. STICK WITH NATURE AND YOU CANT GO WRONG!

If mom doesnt have time for her own baby then something is seriously wrong.

We have created a society in which it becomes increasingly difficult to follow nature usually due to "having to pay the mortgage"... that just isnt living.

[AmbientSound]

I whole-heartedly agree, and I wish the majority of people felt the same way.

[Marduk]

Meat and dairy productions have kept us alive and healthy for this long, and they ARE vital for a human body function properly, I eat meat every day and so have millions of other people through the ages. There is no true evidence to back this is

[jsoul]

I was reading the book "Your Hands Can Heal You", and it mentioned that the foods you eat all give you prana energy, however some of the energy is "clean" and some "dirty".  Of course, all the dirty energy foods were meats and a vegan diet was the most clean.  Supposedly this can clear your energy channels and whatnot to improve meditation. 

ah! i found it....page 185...

http://books.google.com/books?id=1ekEAtUD8e8C&pg=PA186&lpg=PA186&dq=%22your+hands+can+heal+you%22+foods&source=web&ots=pPmu-lqG2H&sig=kN-QQYcA38bEhyqLkeAAUcdupDQ#PPA185,M1

Thanks Ideeep for the book ! and i will get China STudy. thanks Adrian.
i have one question: how is SOy milk different from regular milk?

[joel1212]

man. i really really really like my meat. Does anyone know of a link where eating meat to hurting you with things such as astral projection and dreaming. any other physical health repercussions don't bother me but spiritual does

[zareste]

Come to think of it, my abilities have gotten quite a bit better since dropping meat and dairy, although I'm not sure if it's related

Meat has almost no taste, anyway. Humans are mostly herbivores, so we don't taste much in meat. It's only after you add spices (made of plants and minerals) that you taste anything.

[Tiny]

Dear folks,

if you want to get rid of your meat consumption why don't you try the soy substitutes. My local grocery store offers them in a number of imitations of different varieties of meat and they do pretty well to their role models.

I use a form of dried soy proteine blobs that when boiled up take on the substance of ground meat and I regularily make vegetarian bolognese with it.
One of the reasons I've decided to abandon meat is the unpredictability of negative energy residue and that it appears heavy to digest which is uncomfortable.

More important is to get sugar out of the diet, if possible completly. Needless to say this is a very hard task under normal circumstances. However, you simply don't want sugar cravings in a meditational life and there happens to be a substance produced by the Stevia plant which fills the body's needs for sweetness swiftly and which will get sugar out of the diet of somebody from day 1 on.
There are a few reasons why I consider Steviosides more a supplement than a sweetener.
Steviosides seem to reset my gum or metabolism in some way. Usually after eating something salty/spicy, my body will feel repulsed unless it gets something sweet (in the pause between meals).
Steviosides are 200-300 times sweeter than sugar, and about 10-100 miligrams compared to hundreds of grams of sugar i would estimate, are enough to fil the occasional need for sweetness.
Unlike sugar, where one basically eats until he starts to feel nauseous or the body is satiated by the amount of calories, with Stevia the body knows exactly when enough is enough (in the miligram range). When this threshold is reached the body will give a repulsion signal to Stevioside and gravitate towards another salty a meal.
Stevia has shown blood sugar lowering, cancer preventitive and other health benefits.

There are two basic forms of Stevia

1) dried leaves from Paraguy for best quality, to be grinded into fine green powder. The taste is sweet with a slight black licorice after taste. I read somewhere that these contain about 28% steviosides.

2) concentrate of more than 95% purified steviosides - this contains in that concentration only the sweetening agents (steviosides) and tastes sweet with a fruity aftertaste. The sweetening power of pure Steviosides is much higher and so it is harder to dose. These are eventually also cheaper than the raw dried leafs.

On ebay I got 100g dried leafs for 4€ (about 6 dollars) and 50g pure steviosides for 6,90€. The 50g have been lasting almost a year now. The 100g of dried leafs will probably not for their stevioside content is quite low, but it contains all the minerals and other secondary substances.



peace

[sonia99]

Thanx for you advise ............... i will do that ...........



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[omcasey]

Over 90% of the worlds soy is GMO, I would not recommend it as a protein replacement. Leafy greens and hemp products (powder, seeds, etc..) may be a more holistic option at this time.  Raw honey is an excellent natural sweetener.  Yumm..

[abadboy]

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We can't live forever, so why suffer?