What religion i am?

[Stephen M]

This is a strange question...
Well i don't believe that Jesus was the son of God cause thats just stupid...
We are all sons of God and everyone has the tools to communicate with God. Jesus was a great person, but Christian and catholic religions have changed his face every century.
I Dont see God as a she or he, i believe God is a supreme force with millions of faces, hes a creator, part of the balance.
I Dont follow any of those religions, those religions have grew up by the fear and violence of millions of persons in the world.
Thats a religion made by human beings.
I Dont know what religion will help me understand God more.
I Believe in the 7 Planes, when my father died my mother and myself meet him several times in dreams, my mother spoke with him at a hospital-like facilty. Monroe describes this in one of his OOBE books as a "Purgatory". My father spoke with my mother and told her "I'm Somewhere learning from my mistakes and i cant leave yet, i'm scared". Of course my mother thought it was just a dream and she didnt gave any importance to this, it was shocking when i read this at Monroe's books...
When i was 10 years old i had this feeling every night of floating, hearing voices, waking up crying because of this voices.
My mother took me to a neurologist who told her it was some nerve that was still undeveloped. They never gave me any medication or pills.
The ignorant decisions of my parents made me ignore this. And finally i stopped hearing and feeling.
Im 15 now and after reading books about Astral Projecting and Occultism i understand that what was happening to me was more than natural. Some of my family members have been gifted with a very developed third eye. I Have an uncle who can see diseased persons communicate with them. Aunts that also see spirits and see things that will happen in the future and many many more family members with this strange gifts. My mother including some of the members of the family dont believe in this and are very ignorant about this. They dont care, they think its bovine excrement. The believer part of the family doesnt get very well with the non believer so i just keep away from all this and try to focus more in myself.
I tried feeling this again and it worked, every day im getting more prepared to OOBE, i almost OOBE last week when i woke up feeling this floating sensation, followed by sounds of voices, birds, and a strong acute sound. I Got distracted and failed, But every day i keep increasing the chances.
I Honestly take this seriously and dont make any fuzz about it since its very normal, when everyone decides to hear, learn and stay quiet all of our questions will be answered dont you think so?
So... Anyone knows what religion i am? I Still don't know and saying i have no religion is like saying i have no name.
Thanks for the help!

[Principle]

You don't need a Label or consider yourself a part of a Religion.
You can simply explain to people you have your own beliefs.

If I had to label myself however, I'd say I am a Metaphysical / Spiritualist.
Try looking up those terms and the meaning behind them.

[DH]

    "Religion" is a pretty loaded word any more.  In the minds of many it is associated with spiritual traditions that have become too encrusted with limited human speculations -- or in other words -- too much bovine excrement!  You said it yourself -- you are a son of God.  Explore within to find out what that really means. DH

[Ryuji]

i would say that religion is a mind virus, the enemy of people and
total restriction of society.

i my self don't conform to any religious system or their god(s).

and it has made to world's differance.

I was born right the first time !
I walk my own path by my own accord and not having it being ruled over by some book
or someone - having your own believe(s), your own opinion and living your life yourself.
...

You are an intelligent human being. Your life is valuable by its own. You are not 2nd-class in the universe, deriving meaning and purpose from some other mind. You are not inherently evil you are inherently human, possessing the positive rational potential to help make this a world of morality, peace and joy. Trust yourself

[Jeehad]

In the name of Allah the most gracious most merciful

I don't think there should be a division in man, whether your Christian,Jewish,Muslim you are all the same! I don't think religion is stupid at all! I think that the misunderstanding of religion is completely false and wrong. I am a Muslim, we believe that Jesus was not the son of God but rather a man equal to you and I! We are all capable of communicating with God, but we believe God provided a criterion to judge between right and wrong and this is the Holy Quran.

Read this: http://www.freewebs.com/1slam/thekoran.htm

Inshallah it will open your mind to a totally new world! I think our mission is man and not the occult. The occult is a dangerous thing to look into bro.
take a look at this recitation about the "spirits." We believe that there are Jinns in this universe, many of them are those who try to deceive mankind but among them are truth seekers. This chapter refers to a party of them who listened to the Holy Quran and said indeed this is a wonderful recital.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN4dFoFXYHk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYDqUYEph28

Peace and blessings be with you.

[James S]

Jeehad,

This person is seeking to understand their own spiritual awakening.

DO NOT PREACH YOUR RELIGION TO THEM!!

Proselytising or evangelising is NOT acceptable on this forum.
You can speak about your religion and give your opinions about it, but you will not try to encourage anyone to follow your religion here.

Do so again and you will be banned from this forum completely.

[Jeehad]

I have come here to show him a whole new world of spirituality. A new concept, a concept which I believe is the truth. Why do you find something wrong with that? Maybe his true callign is the submission to God??? Maybe it isn't who knows.

[James S]

Don't try to mince words here Jeehad.
You are not trying to show a whole new world of spirituality, you are peddling your religion, as you have been since you first came to this site.

You are free to believe what you will but you will not try to convert others to your religion here.
Give your opinions by all means but if you try and openly push your religion on others again you will be locked out.

This has been made abundantly clear to many others and now it should be abundantly clear to you.

I'm not interested in an ongoing discussion here about what is or isn't preaching.
You've already crossed that line enough times, so let this be your final warning.

[Principle]

I agree with you James, For I personally have been monitoring and viewing Jeehads posts.
I think he should be removed from the Forums.

[Awakened_Mind]

Stephen M,

I had the same problem trying to decide what religion I belonged to a while ago.

Personaly I don't agree with concepts of right and wrong. My perception of God may be seen in this "I am only man, how can I sin against God?"

I'll post you something I read that changed my mind about a lot of things, in this case I'll use it to explain the way I see religions. It originated in a paper by Bruce Lee on a philosophy on fighting.

" Just what is a classical style of martial art? First and foremost, we must realize the fact that man created styles. Disregard the many fancy historical origins of their founders---- by a wise ancient monk, by special messenger in dream, in a holy revelation, etc.---- a style should never be the gospel truth, the laws and principles of which can never be violated. Man, the human being is always more important than any style.

The founder of a style might be exposed to some partial truth, but as time passed by, especially after the passing away of its founder, this partial truth became a law, or worse still, a prejudiced faith against the "different" sects. In order to pass along this knowledge from generation to generation, the various responses had to be organised and classified, and presented in logical orders. So what might have started off as some personal fluidity of its founder is now solidified knowledge, a preserved cure of all for mass conditioning. In doing so, the followers have made this knowledge not only a holy shrine, but a tomb in which the founder's wisdom is buried. Because of the organization and preservation, the means would become so elaborated that tremendous attention must be given to them, and gradually the end is forgotten. The followers will then accept this "organised something" and the total reality of combat. Of course, many more "different" approached would spring up, probably as a direct reaction to "the other's truth". Pretty soon these approaches too would become large organisations with each claiming to possess "truth" to the exclusion of all other styles. More and more the style becomes more important that its practioner."

Sorry for it's length. If you ignore the reference towards martial arts and try to see a reality within the words that can be related to religion(s), there is something considerably imporant burried within.

If I was to subscribe to any religion it would be Buddhism or Taoism. Which are not really religions at all but more 'ways' of life.

Hope this helps. (Took a while to type) 

-AM

[CFTraveler]

If I had to classify you in  a religious sense, I would call you a metaphysician, or a student of metaphysics.  It's not a 'religion' but it is a belief system, and as you indicated, you have a set of beliefs.

[DH]

Personaly I don't agree with concepts of right and wrong. My perception of God may be seen in this "I am only man, how can I sin against God?"

  AM - I'm not following you here.  What do you mean?

I'll post you something I read that changed my mind about a lot of things, in this case I'll use it to explain the way I see religions. It originated in a paper by Bruce Lee on a philosophy on fighting.

" Just what is a classical style of martial art? First and foremost, we must realize the fact that man created styles. Disregard the many fancy historical origins of their founders---- by a wise ancient monk, by special messenger in dream, in a holy revelation, etc.---- a style should never be the gospel truth, the laws and principles of which can never be violated. Man, the human being is always more important than any style.

The founder of a style might be exposed to some partial truth, but as time passed by, especially after the passing away of its founder, this partial truth became a law, or worse still, a prejudiced faith against the "different" sects. In order to pass along this knowledge from generation to generation, the various responses had to be organised and classified, and presented in logical orders. So what might have started off as some personal fluidity of its founder is now solidified knowledge, a preserved cure of all for mass conditioning. In doing so, the followers have made this knowledge not only a holy shrine, but a tomb in which the founder's wisdom is buried. Because of the organization and preservation, the means would become so elaborated that tremendous attention must be given to them, and gradually the end is forgotten. The followers will then accept this "organised something" and the total reality of combat. Of course, many more "different" approached would spring up, probably as a direct reaction to "the other's truth". Pretty soon these approaches too would become large organisations with each claiming to possess "truth" to the exclusion of all other styles. More and more the style becomes more important that its practioner."

Sorry for it's length. If you ignore the reference towards martial arts and try to see a reality within the words that can be related to religion(s), there is something considerably imporant burried within.

If I was to subscribe to any religion it would be Buddhism or Taoism. Which are not really religions at all but more 'ways' of life.

If you don't think that Buddhism is an "organized something" take a closer look at its many forms.  Some schools of Buddhism are just as ritualistic and buried in ancient traditions as are the various of schools of Christianity, Islam etc.

Buddha the Hindu taught of way of life.  Jesus the Jew taught a way of life.  Earnest Holme the metaphycian taught a way of life.  But the followers of these guys made "religions" out of their teaching as your quote from Bruce Lee suggests.

[Awakened_Mind]

That's exactly my point.
I do not claim to be a buddhist or hindu because of this. I just personally think for me, they are more relevant. I only mentioned it to avoid sitting on the fence.

When I say "I am only man how can I sin againt God?" I am implying that God in my mind is the highest point of consiousness. However people want to define the concept of God is not what I want to start discussing.  To be brief, he/it is number one. There is nothing higher. I see it like an atom in our body, of which we are made, sinning against us. How can we sin against God of what he/it is made. We can only 'right and wrong' ourselves and each other.

-AM

[v2jeff]

What religion am I belong to maybe the right term.

Hello everyone, I am new to this site and just starting to have interest in astral projecting as i am searching for the truth (pls. pardon also my english).  I am exposed to many religions since my childhood.  My father was partly christian and buddist and my mother was a catholic. 

In my opinion as i grew up, i have joined the most true Christian religion in the world called (Church of God International www.AngDatingDaan.org) upon searching among who is the best of the best but I don't know for what reason i am starting to doubts many religions including christianism and somehow starting to believe about the Universal force which all of this things surrounding us came from.  Some called it as force, others God but i am in the state of confusion now of whom to follow!!! 

I don't know maybe it is my instinct.  I am that kind of guy who sometimes has strong intuition and instict w/ things in life which will turn out to be positive if followed.  Deep inside me, I am having this kind of feeling that religion devides people (just like the popular sayings) and i wanted to move on my own.  I am starting to have questions to myself, what if there is no God?  What if there will be no christ that will come back to earth and save us?

I have heard about this astral projection long time ago but it was just recently that i am having a strong interest w/it.  I hope that you could give me some of your experiences after your own OOBE or astral projections if it changes your believe or if you can really communicate w/ God (in christianism, it is the father of jesus), or whatever force or inteligent that might be. 

Pls. also help me to start w/ AP-ing.  Any inputs is highly appreciated and pls. don't discuss religions or try to convince me that yours are the one.  I would be more interested if you will integrate the universal force about this topic.

peace,
Jeff

[IceCold_K82]

I myself have never been a religious person.  I tried going through the motions of Christianity, church, prayer, bible study, but I never fully engulfed myself in it.  I never knew why my mom could feel so strongly about this and I couldnt even begin to care.  Then I slowly started realizing it.  They are all Hypocrites.  None of them followed what they preached, prayed for, or even believed.  I have heard even the most honored in communities talk bad about someone else.  I have seen preachers and pastors at strip clubs on night, then on the podium preaching about righteousness the next morning.  I started trying to find answers to what I believed in a long time ago even if I didnt realize it at the time.

I have slowly done research into other areas to see and try to feel which of them belonged to me.  The answer (to make a long story short) none of them.  Until I started to research astral projection about a month ago.  I dont fully understand much of it yet, nor have I experienced anything yet.  But there is an answer here somewhere for me.  I will find it myself even if it doesnt fit with anyother religion or belief.  I believe that there is a God, creator, higher being...etc.  There is to much evidence (for me) staring me in the face not to believe that.  I will not go into exactly what I believe, but if you want to know just pm me.

My advice to people who dont know where they belong is to just research and experience things for yourself.  A name is just a name.  I could give you name but it wouldn't change what you believe.  And it shouldnt.  Finding ansers can be difficult and frustrating, I have been looking myself for 8 years that I can recall.  The experiences along the way have shaped my beliefs and helped me find the answers for myslef and within myself.  <---Thats where you answer is, not in a book or in this thread.  I hope I didnt sound all Kunfuy on you .  This is just what I have come to find out and I am still searching

[astral traveler]

So... Anyone knows what religion i am? I Still don't know and saying i have no religion is like saying i have no name.
Thanks for the help!

i attempt to embrace the good in all religions, although rejecting the violent aspects which are merely created by humanity.  therefore, i don't feel any express need to classify myself, even though others may wish to classify me.  the same is true of political party affiliations.  i'm not strictly one thing or another, and that will frustrate some people who demand that i be classified.

[Berserk]

Stephen M:

You ask for "help," but I am unclear about the limits of the help you seek.  I can respond to all your questions and assertions, but you seem to have departed from the site.  Do you still lurk here?  If so, let me know if you would appreciate a detailed elaboration on any of my comments.

(1) "Well i don't believe that Jesus was the son of God cause thats just stupid..."
Can it be that the posting guidelines are  hypocritical and allow Christianity to be ignorantly dismissed as "stupid," but not other philosophies safely contained within the New Age Ghetto?

(2) "We are all sons of God and everyone has the tools to communicate with God."
Stephen, are you actually assuming that the Bible and Chriatianity deny these two claims?  On what basis?  Do you want me to clarify my claim in detail?  And do you even know what a claim to be "the Son of God" meant in a first-century CE Palestinian context?

(3) "Christian and catholic religions have changed his [Jesus'] face every century."
OK, let me give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you know what you talking about.  Give me a brief century by century outline of the "face" changes you allege.  Does your question assume that you are competent to clarify Jesus' original "face?"  Please do so.

(4) "I Dont see God as a she or he,"
True, the Bible applies both male and female imagery to God.  But it also makes it clear it is best not to name God because anthropomorphisms create misconceptions about God's nature.  Do you want me to demonstrate this for you?

(5) "i believe God is a supreme force with millions of faces."
Are you unaware that this belief is mainstream biblical and Christian teaching?

(6) "[God] hes a creator, part of the balance."
If God has a creator, then would not this creator by definition be the Ultimate and therefore the true God?  

(7)  "My mother spoke with him [my father] at a hospital-like facilty. Monroe describes this in one of his OOBE books as a "Purgatory".
This assertion is false.  I challenge you or anyone else to find the term "Purgatory" applied in Robert Monroe's 3 books  to any of the astral territories he visits.