Buzzing noise

[Sharpe]

Hey I noticed the buzzing effect mostly comes after not sleeping for 36 hours, or after smoking marijuana.

Can anyone give me a philosophy on this sound?

I also noticed it has this weird pattern where it starts from low pitched, not loud to high pitched and rising in volume.
It stops when I make a noise with my voice, and if I allow the noise to rise I get the feeling I'm in a rollercoaster followed by my eyes opening automaticly and seeing hallucinations.

I had 2 of these expiriences, everytime I get to this state I see the same things as when I hallucinogens.
Faces aimed at me, highly enthusiasticly and laughing AT me.
Dreams have the same principle but are mostly build in a context.

The second hallucination I had when my eyes opened automaticly was a gargoyle with no face sitting like a dog and it jumped towards me.

I need advice on how to get the noise on command without external stimulants.

[ismusa]

I am familiar with the buzzing sound but not when I don't use any substance.  Just keep my mind clear and listen to the sound most people think is titanus buzzing in the ears, soon it gets louder and louder it's a vibration, I start vibrating, it's the beginning of the exit process.

[Sharpe]

I didn't get the first part, can you say that without the double negative?
And also, I never got anywhere close to OBE'ing with clear thoughts.

[greggkroodsma]

I didn't get the first part, can you say that without the double negative?
And also, I never got anywhere close to OBE'ing with clear thoughts.

Trying to project while stoned or drunk or hallucinating just confuses the spirit in you because it is the spirit in you that does that.  When you are stoned or halucinating, you are in another pehaps quicker vibrating world that has jumped ahead of the real world and it can be fooled into believing that what is there is real.  Just like the gargoyles without faces confuses me even.  The buzzing is there and it is caused by something that you would never understand or would never comprehend.

[Sharpe]

What spirit?
Can this spirit think?
Is it programmed to accept the reality it is given to him? Is there a pattern in his thought? How do you know this?

And what do you mean by a quicker vibrating world?

Couldn't the buzzing sound just be a sensory deprivation for sleeping?

[Novice]

Is this buzzing only a noise or is it a feeling as well?

I've never done drugs, so I can't speak to any experiences you have while under their influence. I also have never experienced any buzzing like you describe. However, the quick flashes of images you describe could be hypnogagic images, but I can't be sure as you didn't really describe what you were doing at the time. Normally hypno's occur when a person is on the verge of sleep. If you can keep your mind aware and not drifting off into dreamland as the body dozes off, you will become aware of these images flashing in your mind's eye. You also mention using pot with these experiences, which is why I'm not sure whether you are describing hypnogagic imagery or some drug induced hallucination.

[Sharpe]

What you said about that hypno thing was really close, I was in bed it was pretty dark, I hadn't slept for 36 hours and I was pretty conscious at the time but I got this feeling like I was in a rollercoaster, which was fun so I decided to keep on simulating the rollercoaster feeling.
Then my eyes opened and I looked at my left side and saw the gargoyle for about 2 full seconds then 1 second it jumped towards me.
I felt a small ammount of adrenaline, which kinda snapped me out of it.
But there was definitely a buzzing sound.

I discovered something when using marijuana that is close to this feeling.
After smoking it, I can feel anything I want to feel.

After allowing the buzzing sound to reach its peak, I felt the same way.

Novice, can you give me more info on the hypnogagic images, and did you ever had the feeling that you could feel whatever you wanted to feel, without using stimulants, but maybe close to the gargoyle incident?

[greggkroodsma]

What spirit?
Can this spirit think?
Is it programmed to accept the reality it is given to him? Is there a pattern in his thought? How do you know this?

And what do you mean by a quicker vibrating world?

Couldn't the buzzing sound just be a sensory deprivation for sleeping?

How else can you describe the actions in the environment but according to the 'spirit' created by the life that is in it.  An example would be in every big city there is a 'spirit' created by the actions of people.  There is the 'spirit' of movement created on the highway from the cars going to and fro.  People get in that 'spirit' to go to work, go shopping, visit whoever, etc.  Throughout the day, there is this 'spirit' of movement.  I guess you could call it a 'pseudo-spirit.'  On this highway, there's a wreck with cars piling up.  The vibrations caused by the to and fro going stop while the cars are moved and then it resumes slowly until this pseudo-spirit is reborn.  The best explanation to the 'noise' is living next to a stop light on a highway or an intersection. 

Another thing, listen to loud music for a few minutes and stop.  What do you hear?  You hear the loud music.  If you liked it, you'll play it over and over in your mind; sometimes you can't help but do that.  You give it pseudo-life, a 'spirit.'  It is in you and no, it doesn't think but you do.  I don't think I have to go over what any drug will do to the senses.  They can either magnify or distort the senses and maybe both.  Look at a fly or a roach and think it is a gargoyle.  And if it moves or flies toward you, 'Watch out!'   

You gave us three clues as to why you are sleep deprived, so that 's your own doing. 

Can anyone give me a philosophy on this sound?
I need advice on how to get the noise on command without external stimulants.
  I had 2 of these expiriences, everytime I get to this state I see the same things as when I hallucinogens.
or after smoking marijuana.

Is that so that you can use reverse psychology on youself?  You gave the answer.

It stops when I make a noise with my voice,

Your brain listens to the loudest closest sound.  Your voice would be the closest sound.

Marijuana is not a stimulant, it is a depressant.  Mixing marijuana with hallucinogens and stimulants just is all out confusion. 

[Novice]

Novice, can you give me more info on the hypnogagic images, and did you ever had the feeling that you could feel whatever you wanted to feel, without using stimulants, but maybe close to the gargoyle incident?

hehe...I can simulate feelings a few different ways and to varying degrees. I'll explain a few of my experiences and see if these come close to what you are asking -- I think they do. Regarding your caveat -- experiences without stimulants, as I mentioned earlier, I've never done drugs. I also rarely drink alcohol (may have a glass of wine with dinner once or twice year) and I stopped drinking caffeine several years ago. So all of the experiences I will relate have been completely without any type of external chemical stimulus.

First, regarding hypnagogic images (I spelled it incorrectly in my original post -- sorry), you can find a lot of info on this topic of you google it. Steven LaBerge's website ( http://www.lucidity.com/) would probably be a good place to start, as he's done a LOT of research on the dream state, specifically lucid dreaming. 

A scientific definition for them is as follows:

Hypnagogic hallucination is episodes of seeing and hearing things as one is falling asleep. These dreams can be frightening and can often cause a sudden jerk and arousal just before sleep onset. For example, you may see yourself falling and awaken with a sudden jerk, just before impact. As the subject drifts off to sleep, he/she moves into a state that 
combines the environment, of which the subject is still partially aware, with a dream-like state of sleep, in which he might see people and hear them talking. The experiences are often frightening. Sleep deprivation, irregular sleep schedules, and medications all can predispose to occurrences of this phenomenon.

Hypnagogic hallucinations can occur at sleep onset, either during daytime sleep episodes or at night. They are usually quite vivid, and often involve vision. The visual hallucinations usually consist of simple forms – colored circles or parts of objects – that are constant or changing in size. People may also see the image of an animal or a person, and are more often in color. Auditory hallucinations are also common, but other senses are seldom involved. Hypnagogic hallucinations are dreams that intrude on wakefulness, which can cause visual, auditory, or touchable sensations. They occur between waking and sleeping, usually at the onset of sleep, and can also occur about 30 seconds after a cataleptic attack. Hypnagogic hallucinations are a feature of narcolepsy.

That should give you some info to chew on regarding hypna's.

As for being able to feel whatever you want to feel, I can do this in two ways. First, I can (to varying degrees of success) feel what it's like to be a tree, or a rock, or a spoon, or whatever object you choose. My success is related to my ability to remain focused -- an non-faultering concentration on the object. Somehow, not sure how, if I do it right, I find myself 'slip' into the object. As soon as I begin to think about what I'm doing, I lose the connection and find my mind back in my body again. This is completely different from an OBE. I'm not sure what this is called, but its fun to do when I have time.

The second way I do this is within my mind. I can phase my consciousness/awareness/mind/whatever you want to call it, to something else and there I can be and experience whatever I want. Now, I'm well aware of your views on this scenario, so you don't need to comment on them. I'm merely providing them as an example to your question.

As for your gargoyle experience, there have been a few times, while meditating, where I will find images or words flash in my mind (always related to whatever it is I'm meditating on at the time). However, once, I was fairly deep in meditation and suddenly found myself in a scene with a lion off in the distance. The scene was extremely vivid in color and detail. I could see the high tan grass of the savannah swaying in the wind, watch the lion's mane flutter as well. The lion was lounging in the shade under a few tall trees, eyes lazily scanning the horizon. I was calmly watching, not thinking much of it, until the lion's eyes turned and stared right into mine. My physical eyes immediatly flew open and I quickly jerked around fully expecting a lion to be lying nearby. Ridiculous I know, but that was how real it was. I was completely awake at the time as well -- and sitting in a half lotus position, so it wasn't like my mind or body had fallen asleep.

Not sure if you gained any insight from my experiences, but hopefully something here helped.

[nthjbam]

Interesting stuff in general.  I also constantly have a 'buzzing' noise whenever I try to go to sleep and there isn't any real external sound.  It's not really a buzzing sound, but more like an electrical buzz, like you hear when your television is turned on but muted.  I have that all the time.  What it is I do not know, tinnitus? *big shrug. 

Secondly, I don't know about the gargoyle, but I have had the experience of multiple people facing me and laughing/talking etc all at the same time.  It was really noisy and I don't know what any of them were saying, but as I was trying to meditate and go to sleep and I freaked out a bit and just wanted them gone.  So I asked for the universe to get all of these people and their noise out of my head and something vaguely person shaped and white came down and laced the hell out of me with some white light for maybe a minute tops and then nothing but silence and darkness.  I guess this doesn't really help you, but at least you're not the only person out there with strange things happening.  Any insight here people?

Finally, either alone or in combination 36 hours without sleeping and smoking weed will most assuredly throw you some hallucinations if you're trying to get into a weird space.  So you might not want to do that.  Good luck. 

J

[Sharpe]

Yeah that's what it kinda sounds like, so it's not just me.
Do you have an idea of what this might be?

[Stookie]

Here's a different "sound" related to OBE as stated by member Hans Solo:

In the chapter of John in the bible John talks about the WORD:  This whine in your ears is the word (as you ascend it becomes more beautiful). This is the word that can not be said that only the highest Masons ever get to here. Read "The Path of the Masters" by Julian Johnson, it is all about this.  Jesus says something like the direction of heaven is that of the high wind (something along those lines, the exact quote is in the above book).  The "voice of silence" in Blavatsky's book is the same.

Anyway, Sant Mat is a yoga dedicated to soley listening to this "audible life stream" in order to transverse the inner realms.  This high pitched whistle is the KEY to projection.

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Also, listen in the stillness of your mind for a high "whistle" sound.  It may come right before the vibes and also helps brings on the vibes.  I am comming to realize that this high "whistle", screatching wind sound, may be the holy grail of astral projection.  I am still tinkering around with it however.

found here:  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_experiences/
how_i_learned_to_stop_worrying_and_get_to_the_vibrations-t25660.0.html;msg215896#msg215896

and here: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/
do_vibrations_have_to_come_first-t25229.0.html;msg215888#msg215888

I'm not familiar with these sounds myself.

[Sharpe]

That could be it also, a whistle.
WAIT, i know the perfect way to explain it.

Open msn and put a mic up and talk with someone on the other side that also has a mic, put both your volume on reasonably high, then say something.
There will be some sort of whistling/tv-ish sound that keeps rising.

I don't know if it has anything to do with OBE, I thought I mentioned that, but the hallucination I had of the gargoyle may be that I was allready "out of my body".

[Mez]

I have that whistle all that time... and no its not feedback from the universe! Iunno I dont even notice it until I focus my attention on it but it does help alot with concentration...

[Awakened_Mind]

What hallucinogens are you taking?

-AM

[Sharpe]

Shrooms, when I took it I saw eyeballs in glass and in darkness, with patterns everywhere (if you ever took them, you know what I'm talking about)

[greggkroodsma]

I tried shrooms . . . them I died.