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melody


Have you seen this video - a student in Florida is arrested for asking politician - Kerry - a question...

What about democracy and free speech?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

This webside has a transcript of what was said

http://www.newstarget.com/022041.html

Doringo

That's very disturbing... :-(

Although, to be honest..I don't know if I'd have helped in the same situation. If I was in the crowd, that is.
All men are equal in death.

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Sharpe

Man I just watched the vid too lol, I think it's just up on the net.

His fault, you shouldn't mention conspiracy theories in public.

melody


This is a sharp and direct comment on the incident that happened yesterday - the student being put into handcuffs and tasered for exercising his constitutional right of free speech. It is also a comment on the people present. If they were afraid to help, at least they could have just walked out on mass after the incident. That would have been a statement in itself.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YXzI1DGXL9Y

I suggest you also read the article I posted. It has interesting and relevant legal information about person's rights during an unlawful arrest. And this was unlawful, because he did not brake any law.

Awakened_Mind

I think it's a bit cruel to lash out at the people in the room for not helping. The image of a police officer acts as a deterrent, especially when there about 4 of them dragging him out. If anyone got up to help then it would of been called "a riot" and police would of been "physically brutalised". Yes, from one perspective it's bad that no one got up to help, but perhaps because no one did it made it more apparent that this kids rights were being violated. Now the whole of America can easily stand up and help.

It will be interesting to see the outcome of this case. Whether it is big in the media and pressure is put on the judicial system, or if it just disappears.

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

Mez

It was flat out wrong. I didnt think skull and bones was a conspiracy theory? Although im not saying its public info either if ya get what i mean. The fact that no one responded just shows the goverment has everyone right where they want them.

No politician will answer a question straight anyway. What that kid should have done was become a master of NLP and THEN ...calibrated the politician somehow, asked him the question, recorded the politician in close detail and then studied it later when he got home to determine the answer. Then he could have exposed him! pwnd.


FadeEsdrasX

Mmm that one I do feel abd for him. However mentioning that kind of subject  isnt a good thing...
I'm not sure what i would have done  in that situation myself... maybe have helped. But I cant really say since i wasnt there.

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Embodied Words

Man, that's some BS. TASERING the poor dude? F'd up man. And yeah, there should have been a mass walkout.
There are in every man, always, two simultaneous allegiances, one to God, the other to Satan. Invocation of God, or Spirituality, is a desire to climb higher, that of Satan, or animality, is delight in descent.

- Charles Baudelaire (1821-1867)

Mez

I say power to him. Look at it from a wider perspective... He was basically a PR stunt used to start a viral marketing campaign. Everyones talking about it.


melody


Everybody could have also boo...ed, or shouted "Leave him Alone!" That also could have been an appropriate reaction, in addition to walking out en mass afterwards.

I guess those people who took the videos at least feel they have done something by putting them on line.

morning_star

It was very wrong, but apparently, they have their reasons. Until I find out what they are, I shall deem them pure evil. It's so weird how freemasonry was founded on teachings of the light, but has degressed into greed and murder.

Awakened_Mind

They are either fundamentalists and think that for some reason they rather than anyone else has been exposed to the truth in full light to which all must obey only in shadow, because the greater meaning of things is too dangerous for us to know it all. It's really just one big con game the way I see it. Used for power and control, whether they know they are doing it or not.

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

snowman

#13
obviously illegal, not to mention unethical use of force.

I am disturbed by some of the responses. Namely that people should do nothing in that situation (out of fear...surprising...? no...) and two, that you justify the actions of the officers (and their superiors) by saying that he should not mention these things. Is that why you spend your time researching these "conspiracies", just to keep them away from people..... is this entertainment for you?

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AmbientSound

#14
I agree, Snowman. Courage is being afraid but acting anyway.

Know the foundational philosophies of your country.

http://www.freedom-fight.net/liberty

If we lose our foundation, then everything built upon it will inevitably be destroyed. The preservation of freedom requires strict vigilance.

no_leaf_clover

The man could have raised the issues to Kerry in a much more poignant manner if he were simply quieter, exhibited less nervous energy (which is what truly escalated the situation, cops pick up on that like nothing, they are like dumb animals in such a way), and gave off the vibe of truly expecting Kerry to honor him with a decent answer.  Then Kerry would simply have to twitch and squirm and assert that such a question has no real meaning or value in the first place, in more or less words.  He has stated before on public TV that he has no intention of revealing what Skull and Bones is about.

Excessive police force on a more timid person in such a setting raising the same question in a less energetic way, that did not resist abuse at all if it came his/her way, would be much more alarming and disturbing to watch, but it would probably never have happened in the first place because of that reason.
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Stookie

It shouldn't have happened at all, but I agree both the man and the police could have taken measures so it didn't happen like it did.

But it's not like we didn't get something out of it - whenever someone gets upset with me now I yell "Don't tase me bro!!!"

AmbientSound

Yeah, I agree that the whole thing could have easily been avoided. He could have been more respectful in the first place, and maybe his cutting in line to ask a dumb (my opinion) question is what raised the tension high enough. It all just spiraled out of control. I wonder what happened after.

Still, it's important to know the difference between police brutality and using force out of necessity. Mass programming occurs in baby steps as we gradually move closer towards the acceptance of an idea or practice. Good to be aware of this and take a snapshot of where things are so you can go back and see how much things change.

Graveyard

The USA is almost down for the count. You guys think this was bad, in Sept 2007? Fast forward to 2009, and America has almost been defeated by it's own people.

It's always left vs right, democrat vs republican, black vs white. Isn't the USA supposed to be about people being United, and freedom of speech be accepted? Sadly, the people are already defeated, and have been for a while. It pisses me off to see how unaware and brainwashed they are.

I would say that the US is about 95 percent defeated. The next step is it falling as an entire nation, which probably will happen if things continue on this devastating path.