Destini

[snowman]

I have spent some time looking at this stuff, I would love to have an open discussion about this stuff but require someone who has seen more than a few of her videos. There's a lot to go through....

the website is http://desteni.co.za/


thank you

[astralp]

Hey i have seen a lot of these videos.  They seem pretty convincing, im not sure if I believe what they say but they have a very interesting perspective on so many topics.  I think something like this would be very hard an unnecessary to fake.  what do you think?

[snowman]

ya, I agree. so much time, I have spent hours watching and reading and still haven't even touched all the stuff they have.

On one hand, I have found certain aspects within the videos that I know inside to be honest and wonderful tools of ecstatic change. Namely, that we determine our own emotional/spiritual state, and that we must turn inward to heal ourselves before we can heal others (one and the same).

I do have many questions as they are claiming to be giving us the "unbiased" view from beyond our physical manifestation. Through my life I have re-learned ( to an extent) an evenhanded skepticism( never believe anything 100%, always allowing for growth in all facets), and follow an open mind and heart. If they are sincerely wanting to awaken mankind, than it is only logical that they should also  be as open, clear ,and helpful as they can (which they could work on). I have still remained enticed through skeptical moments by many of the more interesting ones. Having all the information they claim to, its imperative they acknowledge the problems with what  they are asking. they are asking people to just believe, as does every spiritual/religious/cult in the history of wo/mankind. I would personally be amazed if they could show me their understanding of human beings buy responding with our doubts in mind, not to convince, but to act in the most open and transparent fashion.

I would like to see them show the entire process as it unfolds (showing every one in the room, everyone involved).

It has given me a lot to think about, widened my scope and for that I am grateful, just a lot more questions...but thats not bad, just a little frustrating.

I found a good site that is questioning (in a open/healthy way) the process. I came across it tonight, so I haven't given it a real great look, but it seems interesting.

here it is:

http://home.tiscali.nl/gibbon/exploring/desteni/south-african-group.htm


Lightning love

Sincerely,



snowman

[Gibbon]

Hi there Snowman,

Thanks for referring to my thoughts on them. I have only recently stopped following them. The main reason for moving away from them is that I tend to look at the way people speak their truth. I have too often noticed an overdose of harmfulness and that doesn't match their often contradictory messages. If  I were you I would move on to something else and don't risk becoming hypnotised by them!

See you,
Gibbon

[snowman]

I have stopped mostly out of exhaustion, I haven't watched a video in months (or replied to you... sorry) I have been taking a break from all my research. so many contradicting " all encompassing views" that come attached with fantastic (really!) stories  of our origins etc... I think I became so fascinated because i recognize that most people, myself included act on our emotions in harmful and destructive ways, hurting others and ourselves to save face (ego) or to "advance" ourselves etc.... I think that self honesty is a great practice, along with illuminating our fears, but I cannot just believe what others tell me, I can muse and think about it... but unless it rings true after experimentation, it isn't internalized. I have, as with many other occasions with other "phenomena", experienced good life changes while watching the videos, but I have decided to take elements and incorporate them into my life, while leaving everything else to the realm of mabey's.( hard place to be, but a good one, being to rigid in your beliefs is a massive problem, no matter what your "faith".

just my feelings,


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