I have a question about astral projection and heaven

[zorgblar]

Has anybody on here ever projected to heaven and meet the god in the bible?I never have.What about you?

[phitau]

Heaven is not meant to be a place. It's more thought of as a state of mind; the understanding of unconditional love and being able to do this as God does. That is the enlightenment, and if one fails to see it will remain in hell. Hell is a state of mind because the soul will be lost, confused, upset, etc. for the rest of eternity if it cannot see the true meaning to life, God's love--loving oneself and loving others unconditionally. At least, that is what I believe.

[zorgblar]

Heaven is not meant to be a place. It's more thought of as a state of mind; the understanding of unconditional love and being able to do this as God does. That is the enlightenment, and if one fails to see it will remain in hell. Hell is a state of mind because the soul will be lost, confused, upset, etc. for the rest of eternity if it cannot see the true meaning to life, God's love--loving oneself and loving others unconditionally. At least, that is what I believe.

Ok.Thanks for sharing that information.

[rockyrojas88]

Technically, in the bible, God isn't merely in heaven (which is just sky or outerspace). I have it understood that God is some place in the universe...near the Orion nebula i suppose? I dunno lol just kidding. The bible says that the dead have to be resurrected to go to heaven (when Jesus comes to take them).

The lost remain in dead (not conscious) for 1000 years then wake up on judgment, accept to be annihilated from existence in the grave (which is translated as hell). This is called the second death in which there is no resurrection. Death and the grave are consumed by fire and the demons/fallen angels (including satan) also get annihilated.

Note that in the bible, Demons ARE angels...1/3 of the ones that do exist. angels (and demons) aren't dead people, they are another species of being that have existed for ages before Earth was created. Demons (fallen angels) are not to be confused with the nephilim, which were merely tall people that were born because of the cross between Seth's sons and Cain's daughters (read the books of Adam and Eve). Humans before the flood had a long life span, so it makes sense the were giants and lived okay with the dinosaurs. There are speculations that there are also other alien beings such as angels and humans that live in other galaxies too, but who knows...the bible does say there are other worlds.

Note: The bible has often been used out of context to support pagan ideas for hundreds of years ever since Christians began worshiping on Sunday and added more traditions (this became the catholic church). I'm not saying that being catholic or pagan is bad, but that the bible isn't reliable if you want to support their type of beliefs.

Here's proof that
the dead have to be resurrected to go to heaven
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_of_the_dead#New_Testament_teachings
The soul in the bible (nephesh) isn't an inherently eternal immaterial entity (note i said inherently)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephesh