Aid for Astral Projection

[Lume]

I bought some mugwort from this herbal shop today to help aid me in astral projection.
Apparently you drink it in tea and for an extra effect, place it under your pillow.

Just wondering if you have tried it? ...and if you have, how did it go for you?

[David Warner]

Lume,

Honestly, never tried it - let me know if it does work. But in all honesty, everyone is different when it comes to projecting. I have done a three year study on my food in-take, I document *everyday* w/o fail what I eat, drink, consume.. So far the star bucks frapacino's yield no results when it comes to projecting..

Anyways, back in the day I tried all sorts of gimmicks and found out that it was a mental crutch. It does not matter what position you sleep, what you eat, smoke, drink - if you have the desire, passion, conviction you will project.

Tvos

[Lume]

Tvos,

I would have to agree with you, I was able to project quite consistantly (around once a week) when I was first introduced to astral projection and back then, I had the desire, passion and the conviction that you speak of. Now these days, I'm lucky to have one every two months with lack of desire I guess.

I was hoping trying something new will help me back on the ball. I will try it over the next few days and will lets you guys know if I have any luck! 

Lume

[David Warner]

Lume,

I know the feeling because I back in the day when I first started projected for 4-5yrs straight and then hung up the OBE shoes for a long time. There was nothing left of me, I had to focus on physical, and the energy for it was not there. I still projected but at lesiure and didn't put the commitment on me like I did.

It wasnn't til 3yrs ago I found my energy again, but approached projecting into a total different light. Now, I am able to project weekly w/o fail!

You just have to find that one important thing "God" and helping people in both planes....

Tvos

[Lume]

Success... somewhat this morning. I drank the mugwort as a herbal tea last night and put some of the herb under my pillow. When I woke this morning, I straight away thought about how the mugwort didn't help... But then I thought, 'why not try now' and before I knew it, I was out!

It wasn't the best projection as it only lasted a minute or so, but was an improvement.

Tvos, you say I need to find the one important thing 'God'.... I have searched for higher beings in the astral, but with no real success. I know it may only take one really spiritual and emotional experience for gain the energy and desire I need... But what is the best way to be able to experience projection like so?

Lume

[David Warner]

Lume,

You don't have to travel into the higher planes to find God, angels, devas, beings of light etc..
In matter of fact, you don't even have to project to find God. It's in front of you, behind you, inner,outer, visible/invisible, high,low, between, beyond, past, present,future and so fourth.

Think about it like this: look at the world, the sun, the moon and how exact the alignment is, perfect w/o error. We need this to survive! So did man/woman create these planets? no.

Look inside the biological, chemistry, genetics, of a human being. Could woman or man build the complex structures, components that keep us running? Sure we can reproduce, give birth - but what brought us here?

Another simple example, look at the animal species and how many different breeds there are in the world. Can man or women make these different species?

When I first started projecting it was for fun, learning, crusing around picking up astral chicks burning a lot of energy.. But during the course of my twenty years at it, eventually you dive deeper into the spiritual components, study different religions, philosphy's, beliefs. When you base *experience* of projecting first hand and see what is out there and compare it towards the worlds beliefs and experiences. There is only one conclusion - there is a wizard behind the curtain and the different tongues of the world express it as *God*.

I have been blessed and honored to witness angels in different experiences and I tell you it really sends you into complete shock, lost for words, and absolute pure love and beauty of what is possible through the OBE.

There is no fast food drivethru to projecting- you have to work at it, be open, test it, challenge it and most of educate yourself. It all takes time, practice, trial and error and there is no arrival. Many of the best known projectionists have their good days and bad at projecting. There are times I have a split second I am out, but return or a good 5-10mins.. As long you can achieve projecting, learning the trick on understanding how it feels, works, emotion involved that will be your key.

I encourage you to document statstically your success and failures in a spreadsheet for tracking. I have done this for the last three years whole heartdly and can tell you my best times at projecting, what days, how many hours of sleep, validations, etc...

You are more than welcome to visit my web site InvisibleLight at www.invisiblelight.us

Good job on the successful projection - keep up the good work!

Thank You,

Tvos

[Lume]

Tvos,

Thankyou for the in depth response.

I see what you mean by examples that there must be a god/creator. We can't explain how life started nor can we explain where the universe finishes... there must be something greater out there. Although, there is no particular religion that seems to fit in with what I believe through logical sense and personal experience... Do I just simply believe in 'God', with my own perception of god?

Writing down statistical information sounds like a great idea. Will definitely keep me motivated and have the idea of AP on my mind... which seems to be the best solution to having constant AP's for myself.

Yeh, will come in and check out your website! thanks

Lume