Matter

[galaxy_storm]

Well... this is one of the biggest mysteries I've ever came across. I believe most of you here would agree with me on that a matter is just an illusion and with a thought powerful enough, matter can be influenced.
But what defines "powerful enough", what do we have to overcome? What creates the illusion of matter? What sustains it? Is it the "averaged" collective belief of everyone? Or is there any non-physical entity that sustains it? Any other explantation?

[wow_nonamesleft]

"If ye have faith..."

[genep]

Well... this is one of the biggest mysteries I've ever came across. I believe most of you here would agree with me on that a matter is just an illusion and with a thought powerful enough, matter can be influenced.
But what defines "powerful enough", what do we have to overcome? What creates the illusion of matter? What sustains it? Is it the "averaged" collective belief of everyone? Or is there any non-physical entity that sustains it? Any other explantation?

modern science gives us all sorts of types of fiction, computers, movies... etc: they all work the same. Study how all fiction has to work the same -- and you will sooner or later realize that  Physics' quantum-gap  makes Reality works exactly the SAME, just like a movie-screen.

-- really reality 

[326 Blaze]

Who has enough mind power to turn and apple into an orange.  Angels, devils, most aliens, and a choice few humans. But God alone made the trees.  Some girls are born with beautiful curly hair.  Some spend 70 dollars on perm.  You can always tell which is the man made perm.  My point is is desire alone enough?  If you want to sing opera, but dont't have the vocal cords, then you have become a legend in your own mind.  If you want to be a Matailda, or a Carrie but don"t the right combnation of brain power,  can you be sucessful?  God gives a measure of Faith.  Some get the Ace of Spades some the 5 of Spades.  The Faith of a mustard seed can move a mountain.  Faith is the ability to see your desired wants into completion.  God clearly has the most Faith.  You can have a whole handful of mustards seeds but if God doesn't want you turning that apple into and orange your Faith/belief will be blocked by his might.  We would all be our own jenies otherwise.  Wether you believe in God or not clearly some force more powerful is blocking you.  Not letting you/us do as we please.

[Metaphysician]

"If ye have faith..."

Hello my name is David am new here and Greetings to you all!

What do you mean no names left? I got one yesterday! LOL

But you are so right... ther's a big "if" there
"If ye have faith..."

[Metaphysician]

Well... this is one of the biggest mysteries I've ever came across. I believe most of you here would agree with me on that a matter is just an illusion and with a thought powerful enough, matter can be influenced.
But what defines "powerful enough", what do we have to overcome? What creates the illusion of matter? What sustains it? Is it the "averaged" collective belief of everyone? Or is there any non-physical entity that sustains it? Any other explantation?

I too wanted to know this mystery of matter. If matter is an illusion [I think it is] thought can not influence it, because how do you influence an illusion. Tangible thought works with reality. Matter as an illusion is not there at all. " With a thought powerful enough, matter can be influenced".  A thought powerful enough will make it so real as to influence it?

I came up with the following a few years ago. I just post it on my web site about a week ago Galaxy, I was very satisfied with the outcome of the revelation, hope it clicks true to you as it did with me:

For an explanation of my metaphysics, we need a scenario and for this we are going to need for you to picture a fairly large fish tank. Picture this fish tank full of water.

The tank will be populated thanks to the aid of a laser beam projecting 3-D images of fish and environmental props that go along with in a real fish tank. Now, as far as we are concerned a viewer will witness a hologram that looks very real to him, bun never the less an illusion with real fish and props. But we know better for we know the truth.

Suppose somebody sticks their hand in the tank  and try to grab a fish or a prop, you think they're going to succeed? Of course not because is not there at all! It's just an illusion, a hologram that looks very real but is never there.

This is what I want you to grasp, read carefully...the water never makes contact with the fish nor the props and vise versa. The water symbolize Infinite Spirit or God, and the populated 3-D imagery symbolize the physical universe, ethereal and finite matter along with it's planets and stars .

God is infinite and occupies all space within His space, but never ever shares it with anything that is remotely "something" and God. Nothingness can't exist in some thingness.

This is how Matter and Spirit could "seem" to coexist as described above. The question arises than as to why matter as an illusion exists. I t does not...If matter could speak it would say something like this:

God, if I could exist as something I would have to exist as "nothing" and I would seem to occupy your infinite space and therefore I would have to exist as a sup positional reality and be in anyway opposed to you, I would be a lie... nevertheless very unreal that seems very real to myself but not to you...but always a lie.

You mean to tell me that I exist as a hologram in the vastness of the universe? No! God in order to be God it has to be God to something.  Now grasp this: Water is oxygen and hydrogen. This is what causes "wetness" which is an effect of the oxygen and hydrogen. Picture this water filing all space without end this is spirit or Mind. Wetness is the witness that testifies that  oxygen and hydrogen exist with no end.  Therefore what oxygen and hydrogen is the wetness does likewise. That is Cause and effect.

The effect of Mind is the Christ Mind or the God of Mind reflected by his man or Christ me or you. This is real universe and [not the universe that we see with our faculties]. Gods effect exist as infinite as the cause. Let's take God for example and describe Him a little bit. Does god have eyes? yes he does, does he have lungs yes he does arms, hands yes but they are infinite and perfect with no shape at all. His witness does too! Or It's effect.

Let's turn off the switch to the hologram image in the fish tank for a minute and and contemplate what's left. Infinite Variety but always ONE. Now suppose we take an eye dropper and squeeze a droplet of water unto the vastness of this sea and call it you. You just have become one with God and so did I and Joe, Mary. Also a tree, a potato, a world this is call infinite variety. We are always going to have a seemingly limited identity because nothingness exist like a seeming less reality. Matter can be influenced understanding this.

We have the mind of Christ but the sup positional reality of man interprets Infinite Mind into a limited and evil human mind, unable to distinguish truth. God is Infinite Variety but always one. I mean the space does not permit to really get into it, but I will post it as one of my lessons. On my web site soon.

Sorry for the long post

-d

[326 Blaze]

Well I sure hope God doesn't start thinking He doesn't exist or He'll disapear and us withhim. LOL

[healixe]

well everyone must doubt there own existance at some point in life,
we could just be a game made by higher conciousness to amuse itself.
"the black tattoo" is quite a good book but i like its idea of creation.
we would never have fear or problems if people didnt make films.
horror makes us fear monsters ghosts etc
matrix makes us think we may not exisist.

just thouhgt id put this down lol.

and of course we bloody exist cause if we dont im gonna be
seriously ticked

[AmbientSound]

Matter is a vibration. The illusion of solidity occurs because of the oscillation of very tiny particles. In essence, all matter is probability in motion. It has two extremes and it moves back and forth between the two.

ALL things are possible, but conditions must be perfect in order for manifestation to occur- in other words, the probability must rotate into reality.

I imagine that the "god particle," as scientists call it, is a sphere containing every possibility, imagined or real, with a point of consciousness at its center, with a line (its will) connecting to one point on the sphere (one possibility). It is probably more complex, and yet more simple, than any human will ever be able to comprehend.

I think that it is possible to turn an apple into an orange- BUT, you need more than just faith. Faith is only ONE step in the process, but all the steps are equally important. Another step is understanding how reality unfolds, and why.

[CFTraveler]

I'm often critiziced for mixing science and metaphysics but I'm going to do it again.
The effect of the uncertainty principle (also known as 'infinite possibilities') is subordinated to bandwith or vibration.  In the quantum world the ability to predict existence[or where something is and where it's going] is very low (but probabilistically testable) but in the macro world, because bandwith is so long (as in frequency slow) we can predict where an object is and is going practically 100% of the time.  So the 'infinite possibilities' take more time to manifest.
So yes, infinite possibility is mostly manifest in the macro world, and seems governed by natural laws that we still don't understand fully.  (Everyone wants to have a theory of everything but it hasn't manifested yet, lol).  So, if you want to turn an apple into an orange, your positive thinking may give rise to the birth of the geneticist that is going to grow up, study genetic engineering and figure out how to make an apple tree make oranges, or something like that.
In other words, infinite possibilities don't rule out natural physical means.
*ducks*

[AmbientSound]

Good point.

[Greytraveller]

CFTraveler
Regarding that elusive "Theory of Everything" -
IMO it will never happen until science includes the study of Consciousness into the equation (Conscientology?? ) This is mainly because when science operates at the quantum level there is more subjectivity that objectivity (Schrodinger's cat and other Gedanken experiements are good examples of quantum subjectivity  (ie scientific Uncertainty lol) ).

Grey

[CFTraveler]

I agree, and that's what stumping everybody.  But wouldn't it be a hoot if it weren't possible to have a TOE because the macro world and the micro world are just too different?  Of course, this would negate relativity, I think (or guess).  The world is just weirder than we think, I find more and more this to be so every day.  Maybe I just came up with one.  Weirdness is reality, regardless of scale.    

[AmbientSound]

The micro is the genie. The macro is the wish come true.

[CFTraveler]

The micro is the genie. The macro is the wish come true.

Someday I'll steal that from you.

[AmbientSound]

Our fear and love are what create the reality around us. Meaning is derived from our experiences. Imagine having godlike powers. What kind of meaning would that take on? What if you could slide in and out of countless dimensions and worlds and change your own form and substance, conjure up objects and beings before you, etc.? How much would you have in common with others and how would you relate to their experiences? I guess it really depends on what you seek. But all of that comes from knowing yourself. What you truly seek can only be found here and now.

[RemoteTouch]

God (collective consciousness) has created the laws for us to explore.  You create your destiny in God through free will.  That is how much consciousness you have right now.  Conscious evolution at some point will give you enough conscious "power" to have a greater influence, but for now the force out of you is more powerful that the force within you.  At some point you "vote" will have a greater influence.

[Awakened_Mind]

There was a good documentary on BBC about the atom

You can find the three part series here:

Part 1 'Clash of the Titan's' http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-7694154455816736507&q=bbc+atom&ei=RLc-SOHzAqXsqgO9hdHzAw&hl=en

Part 2 'Key to the Cosmos
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-5003968210604570515&q=bbc%20atom&hl=en

Part 3 'Illusion of Reality'
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-1406370011028154810&q=bbc%20atom&hl=en

(All run for approx 58 mins)

-AM

[Alan McDougall]

AmbientSound

 

Our fear and love are what create the reality around us. Meaning is derived from our experiences. Imagine having godlike powers. What kind of meaning would that take on? What if you could slide in and out of countless dimensions and worlds and change your own form and substance, conjure up objects and beings before you, etc.? How much would you have in common with others and how would you relate to their experiences? I guess it really depends on what you seek. But all of that comes from knowing yourself. What you truly seek can only be found here and now

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I had this experience of merging with God indeed becoming God for a brief moment with all knowledge and power , during my NDE IT was exhilarating to say the least.

Alan