Blankets!

[Shin]

Once again a weird question x) If I'm lying in bed, covered by a blanket: Is it harder to induce an OBE that way? And what if I only cover my feet?

Another question: Is it easier to get out if I have my eyes opened or closed?

[astral traveler]

Once again a weird question x) If I'm lying in bed, covered by a blanket: Is it harder to induce an OBE that way?

whatever temperature is the most pleasurable will relax your body the most, whether hot or cold.  during a hot summer, an air conditioner might be preferred if it makes you feel the most pleasurable.  during a cold winter, a heater and/or blanket may be more suitable, if indeed it makes you more pleasurable and therefore more relaxed.

with all of this said, this still may only be effective after some degree of sleep deprivation and/or fasting.  it's a bit of a trick to get oneself into a lucid trance state, and may take years of regular training to induce anything beyond a projection which lasts only a few seconds.

And what if I only cover my feet?

one helpful method that i've used is heating the lower half of my body with an electric blanket, while simultaneously cooling the upper half of my body with an air conditioner.  it seems to do something with the blood flow, generating a lot of inner physical activity during the sleep state.  thus the body becomes rather alert, even though it's asleep.

in the end, do whatever makes you feel the most pleasurable in regards to temperature, insofar as this will relax your heart rate more optimally, so as to induce the deepest possible sleep state.

Another question: Is it easier to get out if I have my eyes opened or closed?

closed is generally best.  sensory deprivation will put you into a potentially deeper state of trance and/or sleep.  environmental sights and sounds may merely wake you up.

- with all of this said, my suggestions will only apply 90% of the time, and reverse conditions may actually apply in rarer circumstances.  there are multiple complex factors to consider.  the trick is to become mentally alert while physically asleep.

[David Warner]

it does not matter what position, clothing, temp, location, food, blanket you use.. one still can project..

i just recently finished up a three year study and found theonly thing that matters is the amount of sleep, specific days of the week, and the morning hours of the OBE to occur.

tvos

[Th13rteen]

it does not matter what position, clothing, temp, location, food, blanket you use.. one still can project..

i just recently finished up a three year study and found theonly thing that matters is the amount of sleep, specific days of the week, and the morning hours of the OBE to occur.

tvos

I am "quite" (an understatement by far) interested in your data Tvos... I have thought of doing my own sleep study because when i find myself mentally exhausted I have noted that my perception of my environment around me seems to bend a little.. I have heard about days of the week and different hours attempting etc etc. So I would like a link please to your results (if you have it that is..).

Thanks in advance!

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[David Warner]

www.invisiblelight.us

tvos

[astral traveler]

www.invisiblelight.us

tvos

your website looks interesting.  i'd like to check it out too, if i may.

i've thought of writing a book on my many astral projection experiences, but i've struggled whether or not people are really interested in that sort of thing nowadays.  most people who i mention it to don't really understand it or don't believe in it.

[Th13rteen]

Tvos.....

why is it you require registration just to have your journals viewed? Also, do you have a direct link to your findings with the sleep study if not I can just look for it but your vague response to my question is leaving me having to search through your site to locate it. The site seems a bit difficult to navigate also. Any help finding the page I am looking for would be great! Thanks in advance.

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[Shin]

your website looks interesting.  i'd like to check it out too, if i may.

i've thought of writing a book on my many astral projection experiences, but i've struggled whether or not people are really interested in that sort of thing nowadays.  most people who i mention it to don't really understand it or don't believe in it.

That'd be great! Not only people who know OBEs buy such books, but also those who don't. Most books have a blurb and if someone's interested, then they might buy it. I found out about OBEs around 2 years ago on Wikipedia I believe. 1 year ago I bought and read a book by William Buhlman. His book was about his experiences, the results of his research in the astral planes (he was playing scientist, creating theories etc.) and some techniques. I really enjoyed reading his experiences simply because the astral planes and the things that happen there are just so different. The existance of " guides" is especially interesting and all those special places he visited (his soul itself, and a room flooded with bright light, love and warmth etc.). I believe many other people would be interested as well

[astral traveler]

That'd be great! Not only people who know OBEs buy such books, but also those who don't. Most books have a blurb and if someone's interested, then they might buy it. I found out about OBEs around 2 years ago on Wikipedia I believe. 1 year ago I bought and read a book by William Buhlman. His book was about his experiences, the results of his research in the astral planes (he was playing scientist, creating theories etc.) and some techniques. I really enjoyed reading his experiences simply because the astral planes and the things that happen there are just so different. The existance of " guides" is especially interesting and all those special places he visited (his soul itself, and a room flooded with bright light, love and warmth etc.). I believe many other people would be interested as well

i might still put something into writing.  i hadn't really found the right crowd prior to joining this forum.  perhaps i can assemble info from my posts in relation to what people are interested in for a start.

[David Warner]

why is it you require registration just to have your journals viewed?

--most of this is preference and for those that are truly interested in the site, will want access to review the material. also, by copyright law my site material is protected by law. especially for the book I am working on.

Do you have a direct link to your findings with the sleep study if not I can just look for it but your vague response to my question is leaving me having to search through your site to locate it. The site seems a bit difficult to navigate also. Any help finding the page I am looking for would be great! Thanks in advance.

--if you read each section and what each part is about you would understand where the data resides. i am trying to make the site easier from what it was before, but for now this has been on-line for over two years, i recieve roughly 2,000 + visitors monthly and no problems with navigation. I am always up for suggestions to improve.

Start in the OBE journals FAQs section and then progress onto the audio/video of my radio interviews, tests, and experiments.

I encourage everyone that works with projection to do their sleep studies, find the the difference between sleep, food, exercise, and difference between OBE,False Awakening, Dream to OBE, and Misc. I have said this many times in radio interviews that to have a "clearer" picture you have to do the work. By myself doing this work, I know the days that I will project, times to occur, and how to manipulate the trance state better.

I project 1-2 per week w/o fail and am successful at it because I did the work. No one will do it for you, only yourself!

Good Luck and enjoy the site!

Tvos

[Th13rteen]

Start in the OBE journals FAQs section and then progress onto the audio/video of my radio interviews, tests, and experiments.

I encourage everyone that works with projection to do their sleep studies, find the the difference between sleep, food, exercise, and difference between OBE,False Awakening, Dream to OBE, and Misc. I have said this many times in radio interviews that to have a "clearer" picture you have to do the work. By myself doing this work, I know the days that I will project, times to occur, and how to manipulate the trance state better.

I project 1-2 per week w/o fail and am successful at it because I did the work. No one will do it for you, only yourself!

Good Luck and enjoy the site!

Tvos

No, Tvos...

What I am asking you about is your comment HERE ---> (...i just recently finished up a three year study and found theonly thing that matters is the amount of sleep, specific days of the week, and the morning hours of the OBE to occur.)

Where on your site is the data you have compiled from this three year study? Or is the data strewn across alot of articles on your site. Its not that I am lazy or anything its just that I am ONLY interested in your data you have found from this study. I do not want to have to sift through 15 different articles just to find data thats only pertinent to my question. Basically what I am asking you is - is your data from this 3 year study in JUST ONE PLACE or is mixed in with a bunch of other articles that have nothing to do with the study itself? The reason I ask this is, when you say (and I could be wrong here, but its my perception) "I just finished up a three year study", you imply that you have a document or article referencing the data you found in that specific study. Like a conclusion, etc.

It would be like me saying I just did a three year study on rhinoceroses, their eating and mating habits, and their migration habits. So you would think that I had a single document with a narrative on the study with facts, theories and conclusions. All I am asking you is for you to elaborate on what your findings are. Nothing more.

I have been researching OOBE's for 13 years now so I already know alot about OOBE's and Astral Projection. I just want to know if you are willing to share your ideas as well, I mean thats why we are all here on this forum isnt it? To share our experiences, ideas, and opinions about this fantastic phenomena and maybe help humankind unlock the way to their spiritual evolution? Or am I the only one that feels this way?! I just dont find it conducive to my own research to have to re-read and rehash every thing I know across 15 or 20 pages of text just to find a simple answer to a question. So please let me know and thanks.

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[Th13rteen]

Also, Who the hell cares about copyrights? I mean if I were to build a website with information that could help this petty world and the little wills of men be a better place then I dont care if someone wants to copy and paste anything I say. The only reservation I would have is for them not to modify it in any way. I can see why someone would use copyright in this respect but I cannot for the life of me fathom why someone would want to copyright POSITIVE material that if spread around could cause a POSITIVE effect. Again, maybe this is just me. /Shrug

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P.S. - I made a promise to myself a while back, after I had my OOBE, and that promise is this. "I promise to the world, that if God finds me worthy enough that he provide some way that I can publish a book and/or material to help raise the consciousness of the world of humankind to a higher level so that we as a people and a civilization may be able to live more further in harmony than our ancestors and predecessors have and to bring and usher in a new era of peace and harmony with the universe. And I vow to not charge a single penny for this information. I vow to make this information and material free to the people of this world, because we did not pay to be born, so as such we should not pay to have our consciousness liberated." To this day, I still hold true to that promise and I hope someday soon the time will come and God will find me worthy enough to realize this dream. Screw the copyrights!

[David Warner]

What I am asking you about is your comment HERE ---> (...i just recently finished up a three year study and found theonly thing that matters is the amount of sleep, specific days of the week, and the morning hours of the OBE to occur.)

Here is some data here for you to review since you missed in the AP board and on my site:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/why_cant_i_project_a_experienced_perspecitive-t28110.0.html;msg231391#msg231391


Where on your site is the data you have compiled from this three year study? Or is the data strewn across alot of articles on your site. Its not that I am lazy or anything its just that I am ONLY interested in your data you have found from this study. I do not want to have to sift through 15 different articles just to find data thats only pertinent to my question.

It's located in the statistic section. If you would have read the main web page and statistical section you would have realized this is where the data resides. Sometimes we have to do a reading to get more information. I understand you have been at this for 13yrs plus, so I encourage you to start tracking your own progress. .

Please also listen to my radio interviews - especially Kevin Smith Show, and Tell Me Your Story
These shows were really good and dived deep into statistics, validations, etc.

About Copyright - I don't charge for entrance into my web site, all my material is for research and study that I share and I welcome anyone. I also have to protect my work from audio, video, data which is why it is copyright by law. Last, if you are working with the media, publisher's, radio interviews copyright is important. Eventually, my web site will be media interactive that coincedes with the book I am working on. Both will play off one another. For more information, you can view the copyright section of my web site.

tvos

[Shin]

tvos

Shin

[Th13rteen]

I just read your report here in the forum about your findings and it was very comprehensive! I think the metaphysical community as a whole needs more hard data like this. Then and only then all of the naysayers and conspiracy theorists that say new age mumbo jumbo is a construct of the Illuminati and NWO will shut up for once! Good job on the info.

I will have to wait till I get off from work to check your site, this computer here doesnt do so well with flash sites and lags horribly but I cant wait till I check it out. By your account of the "Hit the road Jack.." ringtone I find really amazing, alot of stuff like that happens to me also. Not with OOBE correlation but in other ways as well. I feel on a deep level that the universe/I am presence/Higher Self/God/All that is talks to everyone all the time in this way, it just seems like alot of people are cut off from self and are not in tune and dont listen or hear it. Great thread, I enjoyed it. Thanks! 

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[David Warner]

13,

Thanks... you actually reminded me of something that I have been wanting to post on my web site for a very long time. I will be adding this to the stats section of my web site for people to review of my findings.

People can't take everthing 100% on faith that the first OBE means "proof" of life and death. You really have to take time, document, and track results. Also, documenting the consistencies during the experience time again then the proof starts to open up.

Take Care,

Tvos