Roll Out method

[montyrev]

If anyone is familiar with the roll out method i was wondering if you have ever rolled out made it a few feet from your physical only to be pulled back. And in this rolling in and out of your body did you ever come out only to feel a dark presence? it felt horrible and i was really scared. i told it to leave me alone and it didnt. i called back to my body and was frozen trying to force myself to wake up only to be trapped with this evil presence scaring the bajesus out of me. what can i do to these entities to make them stay away?

[2432615184]

Then dont do that method! The easiest one for me is the floating method. You can even start to feel a floating senstation before you even hit the vibrational state! but you wont exit your body until the vibrational state. Just think to yourself "I will float I will float" and try to move your astral body upwards.

[ka0s]

I often feel the floating beginning to happen and i look down at my legs floating out of my physical legs. I do not however encounter vibrations before i separate

[2432615184]

I have only reached a serious vibrational state once, usually I just get the tingly numb feeling. But the vibrational state I felt came out of nowhere..It felt amazing like sex lol but better! but anyway my body felt like it was being electrocuted but without the pain.

[iNNERvOYAGER]

Check out Tayesin's advice on : http://www.simply-spirit.com/protective_shield.php 
I'm adopting his positive concept to change from my instinctive confrontational reaction of whirlwind of long razors, and explosive pulses.

The color of my shield is now tangerine.

Have a good attitude planned in advance. ( Instead of , oh oh get away evil presence, leave me alone, don't hurt me, I'm so afraid of you, ) take a more aggressive and powerful posture and calmly take a stand with a big happy smile. 

IMO, you experienced fear associated with a lucid sleep paralysis event.

It's a common thing, happens to me occasionally, sounds, people talking and walking around the room like a party going on, I'm stuck, then half realize that it's part dream and then have to refocus.

Funny thing about sleep paralysis, my mind always invents some emergency that makes me struggle to regain control of the body and fully wake up as quickly as possible.

Normally, I just wake up when I wake up, or emerge from a dream like any one else. But when we're conscious before the body's awake, then some kind of urgency is invented and imaginary boggy men (boggy persons?) appear.

As the other guys posted, think of different exit methods.

I'm not familiar with anyone having problems with a dark presence associated specifically with  rolling out.
This is just a common experience we have with sleep paralysis and partial projections regardless of the particular exit technique or attempt.

[bondgirl3007]

Hey

So did you actually see something or did you just sense an evil presence? Sometimes (from my own experiences) when you are experiencing that hypnagogia state (click here to read about it) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia   you will hear voices. A lot of times, these voices and fear can be generated by your own thoughts. When we are in the astral realm, our thoughts become reality very quickly. The best thing to do is just ignore it. If it is something evil, just pray in your mind and it will go away.

How I'd describe the roll out method, is just mentally imagine yourself rolling over and spinning. Sometimes when I've exited this way, I will continue to spin and become kind of dizzy and disoriented. This is a pretty effective method, but I have an even better one that will get you out very quickly.

With this technique, when you feel the paralysis feeling and vibrations, you are ready at this point to separate. What you do, is visualize yourself as if you were looking down on your body from above. When your concentration breaks and you are back at the point of reference from where you actually are (laying on your bed) just do it again. Keep flip-flopping your points of reference. Within about a minute or less you will be out. This works great! Don't be alarmed because you will shoot out really fast. It's not as gentle as just rolling out.

Let me know if you have any luck with this method! And try and eliminate fear. Don't watch movies or anything on t.v. that would put anything negative in your mind close to bedtime. Just try and relax. There is nothing to be scared of. If something is out there, all you have to do is will yourself to return by moving a finger or a toe and you are right back in your body.

[True Terran]

Hi!

Many years ago I was in the same situation, with regards to "rolling out".  One night I made several attempts for "the lift" only to either get partially stuck in my physical body, or not out at all.  It was as if I was projected, but still trapped inside my physical body.  It was as that moment that I had recalled a story of someone else who had gotten stuck inside their physical body while projected.  I imagined myself spinning inside myself so fast that I was able to "throw" myself out of my body.  Now, I didn't experience any negative entities as you claimed, but I did recall that there was a presence in the room watching me; however it felt more like it was simply observing me.  The experience was over within a minute or so, but as always I couldn't leave the room.  I personally feel that the roll out method is best reserved for those special situations when one is stuck and can't fully project.  Then again, I am still learning.......

[montyrev]

okay. i was just testing with this method. the first few times i exited just fine explored my house and a few neighborhood blocks. all was well. i was actually happy and laughing. then i roll out. i see a pulse/ flashes of black and white light like im in some crappy 1920s movie. i heard evil laughing. and in my hallway was a small evil looking creature who wouldnt leave my "vision" part of my astral body alone...i guess you could say it wouldnt get out of my astral face and was very clingly to me. after telling it to leave. granted i was afraid. i remembered to tell things to leave and they would. i told it to leave but actually it was me who ended up leaving.. i got high above my house and told myself to fly as fast as a rocket. very fun by the way.

[CFTraveler]

Also look up Dweller on the Threshold:  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/long_time_no_see_somethings_up_lol-t28053.0.html;msg231266#msg231266  which explains why you get that feeling sometimes.