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zareste

Any thoughts on rescuing Earth from certain doom? Here I'm talking about the cultural conflicts and wars that are about to kill us, not only the natural disasters to come. We've all seen the warnings. I've personally had two entities intervene and tell me Earth - particularly the US and Europe - are headed toward doom for a multitude of reasons.

What can be done?

kailaurius

Maintain a constant focus on peace, happiness, and Unconditional Love.

zareste

loving the destruction? I was looking more for ways to prevent it

Tayesin

Zareste,
If we consider how long humans have worked with the mindset of Might is Right, we can see that this is a demise time for that operating condition. Which also tells us that it is now perfect for the times we are in. It also tells us something far more important, which is, the mindset needs to come to its own conclusion. If we end or change it before we are finished with the full experience of it, then we are inviting it to return at some time in humanity's future in order to finish it off.

For now we are Seed Planters for Humanity's future. Anything being birthed into the world will come with birthing pains, which is the end of the Old. We are past being able to do anything to change its path, so rejoice now in knowing the way we live on this world will soon reach its climax and our true work will begin in creating what comes after. Let us choose equality and understanding for all. Now, let us know this a is perfect and necessary, despite anyone's emotive judgements about it.

At this time we are meant to be find Equanimity, being able to see what is happening in the world and not being effected by any of, staying instead calm and centered. We are meant to be letting go of our issues, our needs and desires in order to become clear and aware.

zareste

I was kinda hoping someone here would be opposed to massive torment and death

Skyalmian

I share your view in part... While I am looking so very much to a rebirth of the world from all the changes, I am not pleased about the high potential for so many to depart in countless unpleasant ways. Sadly empathetic and detached, I would say of my view of it... It's unfortunate but those who do leave will have chosen to do so through what they support, how they feel, and what goes on in their conscious / unconscious processes.

kailaurius

Quote from: Tayesin on March 28, 2009, 07:07:06
Zareste,
If we consider how long humans have worked with the mindset of Might is Right, we can see that this is a demise time for that operating condition. Which also tells us that it is now perfect for the times we are in. It also tells us something far more important, which is, the mindset needs to come to its own conclusion. If we end or change it before we are finished with the full experience of it, then we are inviting it to return at some time in humanity's future in order to finish it off.

For now we are Seed Planters for Humanity's future. Anything being birthed into the world will come with birthing pains, which is the end of the Old. We are past being able to do anything to change its path, so rejoice now in knowing the way we live on this world will soon reach its climax and our true work will begin in creating what comes after. Let us choose equality and understanding for all. Now, let us know this a is perfect and necessary, despite anyone's emotive judgements about it.

At this time we are meant to be find Equanimity, being able to see what is happening in the world and not being effected by any of, staying instead calm and centered. We are meant to be letting go of our issues, our needs and desires in order to become clear and aware.

Hi Tayesian,

Very nicely put.  I definitely agree.  :-)

Quote from: zareste on March 27, 2009, 23:28:10
loving the destruction? I was looking more for ways to prevent it

Hi zareste,

No, quite the opposite.  Loving the peace is what I meant.  If you look for ways to prevent destruction you're only giving energy to what you're trying to prevent.  The Universe always maintains perfect balance and harmony without exception no matter how "chaotic" events may be perceived.  A popular phrase that has been going around is, "Become the change you want to see.", which is a very appropriate phrase.  Instead of fighting against, thereby giving focus on what you do not want, focus on what you do want.

zareste

I want to live in a world that isn't ravaged by your nuclear and biological warfare. Sorry. We just want two different futures.

Awakened_Mind

Zareste,

If we pay conscious attention to destruction and focus on the inevitable doom of an unsustainable world then we are really adding to the manifestation of such horrors in the future. Quantum physics has been telling us now for some time that we are all connected and furthermore, that our thoughts affect reality. Waking reality can really be explained as a collectively agreed upon dream. If we sit around blaming and hating the people in the world who we feel are responsible for the state of the planet, then we are just adding to the overall low frequency wave of fear based psychology as we approach the centre of the galactic plane. We are adding to the overall collective state of negativity that generate the nuclear and biological wars which you blame on others.

We are evolving as we always have been. Evolving into a state where individuals take responsibility for their lives and accept responsibility for what we are collectively. People tend to get really caught up in the fact that an elite group of individuals are making bad decisions. We are ALL responsible for the state of the planet. Don't blame and say he is more responsible than me, it is simply ignoring your own participation in it. It's simply ignoring your own state of mind which adds to the overall problem. The link has to be seen between the dislike in someone's mind of say someone of different race or religion, or perhaps someone who dresses different and then the collective behaviour of wars and violence.

I say imagine a better world and hold onto that thought. Don't focus on all the bad that is happening at the moment but focus on the good and imagine the better. Practice kindness. Hopefully if we can become better people individually before 2012, it will produce are greater change for whatever future after the event. Even if nothing occurs at all.

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

zareste


Awakened_Mind

Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

zareste

Just a conflict of interest. I aim to give life to those who want life, and death to those who want death. I'm still learning how to deal with death-seekers

Stookie

There is evidence that bad things are coming. But not proof. Psychic predictions are always wrong. And bad things are always coming, always have. I wake up every morning and the birds are singing. Nothing has happened in my life to tell me tomorrow won't be the same. I stay positive about things, live fairly environmentally clean, & try to spread philosophical/spiritual ideas so others can share too. To me, that's the best way to prepare people for their future and a better world.

I'll deal with the world falling apart (or die) when it happens, not now. There's still too much to enjoy today.

kurai kokoro

sorry dude but here is my view point,
1. when you say death in destruction I think Of fire, fire stands for rebirth and renewal.
2. to hold on to those you fear to lose is selfishness instead of mourning, rejoyce for those who are rebirthed.
3. your mind is to clouded by fear, let go of you fears they are only the shadow.
4. all things in visions are but symbols, if you interpret them wrong then you will be wrong,
my mom is great at interpreting dreams and as I said before in another post dreams can be religilous, sub concouise, premonitions of the future, or mean nothing at all.
5. just don't worry about anything bad happining live for the now not the future, the future isn't set in stone.
"I am the Phoenix that engulfed the dragon."

CFTraveler

Quote from: zareste on March 27, 2009, 23:28:10
loving the destruction? I was looking more for ways to prevent it
How is maintaining your focus on Unconditional Love & Peace loving the destruction?  It means focus your energy on Love and peace, and stop focusing the attention (energy) on a problem that has been caused by our lack of empathy and feeling of disconnectedness.  The problems humanity faces are basically based on greed and the lust for power, and are so complex that there is no 'one technical way' to solve it.
So instead of focusing our creative energy on saving one part and somehow letting another go south, we need to change how we think so we can stop miscreating.  And how do we stop miscreating?  By focusing on the only thing that can save us- Love and Empathy.

Or, What Awakened_Mind said.   :lol:




zareste

I'm not concerned with your emotions. If you want to think positive while you're dying, then okay, watch happily as the napalm eats at your skin, but don't demand that I join you. If you do that, I'll just help you toward your fate and create a better world over your ashes.

But I would prefer that you folks live in a better future and not pollute our world with your corpses. That would be obnoxious. I would rather see you existing as part of a better society than as a potential fossil fuel a million years from now. You don't have to 'die for the cause', you don't have to strain yourself or do anything dangerous, there's no reason to become outraged and bark like cornered animals. All we need is a set of blueprints to follow and avoid the future that you're currently heading toward.

I made this thread because this site has some fairly skilled psychics who can talk to life forms that most people can't, and access information that most can't. This gives us options that could dig us out of this hole more quickly. We're going to solve these problems sooner or later, with or without you, and I would prefer to do it sooner before these problems get deeper and harder to solve.

iNNERvOYAGER

The problem you might be having is accessing information about parallel universes.

We have to accept the high probability of an infinite number of similar physical realities.

Many people throughout the ages have predicted that the end would occur during their lifetime because it made them feel special.
(as in, "how can the world exist without me?")

I've talked to people years ago who adapted lifestyles according to dreams/visions about the earth erupting into a great fireball with in an immediate time frame and even received a letter once (in the old days before email) that sort of apologized  for the "prediction".

I've had visions years ago of being in a great war where my family stood in the streets of an urban neighborhood and watched vertical lift jets hovering above.
It was so realistic and lucid, as if I was experiencing through another persons eyes.

I could have been seeing the actual events of a parallel existence.

What's new though, humanity has been headed towards doom from day one.

zareste

Not concerned with what you consider the 'end of the world' or whatever, and this is not about parallel universes, and nobody said doom is new

Awakened_Mind

Then what is it? The way your speaking about the future to begin with is as if we're not approaching it together. You keep using exclusive language like 'your' and 'you'. Is it that you think because 'we' are talking about thinking positive, 'we' don't realize that change is going to take action? That we need actually to do something to avoid the worst possible future?

It really seems like you have your mind stuck on a way of the future. That way for you seems to be death and destruction. Fair enough. Things are probably going to get worse before they get better.

I really like what kurai kokoro said about fire bringing new life. +1 Dude :-)

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

zareste

No actually I'm on your side. I said, very specifically, those who death should receive death. You and kurai should be allowed to receive fire while those who want life receive life.

Awakened_Mind

Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

iNNERvOYAGER

Quote from: zareste on March 29, 2009, 00:39:39
I want to live in a world that isn't ravaged by your nuclear and biological warfare. Sorry. We just want two different futures.
One thing we can do is to not accept the recent euphemism of "overseas contingency" in place of the reality that is still "Global war on terror"

Sticking our heads in the sand will not make evil fanatics and extremists go away. As technology progresses, smaller groups will have access to greater destructive power.

As long as we experience the duality of this physical earth, we will have to fight evil to prevent returning to the dark ages and loosing any of the good that civilization brings.

After we leave the stage of the earth drama, we should be able to look back and laugh at how cheesy and ridiculous this earth existence can be. 

Stookie

Zareste - could you give us an example of the type of action you're talking about regarding saving the world? Do you mean like political protest or green peace, or whole new ideas, or did I miss the point completely?

kurai kokoro

I'm sorry dude but you are too lost in shadow for me to explain anything further.
"I am the Phoenix that engulfed the dragon."

Liminalitus

I think some people here are worrying way too much about this type of stuff. It's like the year 2000 all over again. The following destruction was horrible, and so many people were killed. It was horrible, don't you think? Oh, wait.

I hope when 2012 rolls around, for the believers' sake, that something great happens, that we become more spiritually aware. Let's face it, though; there's a 99.99999999999999% chance that nothing will happen. The date is based off a calendar written by a group of people who couldn't predict their own descent to oblivion. Instead of waiting around for a change, why don't we become the change?