Has someone gone recently back in time Etherally?

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Bellend_1010

Anyone managed to will themselves back in time to a recent date in the Etheral say like 1 weeks ago and see themself doing what they remember seeing themself doing at the time? tell of experiences pls.

T.L.

I've went into the future (sorry doesn't fit the topic).

Bellend_1010

And what did you see in the future? and did it actually happen?

T.L.

Well my experience was I went into downtown. There was a woman on the phone walking down the block. I wanted to see if I could get a reaction out of her even if only a subconcious reaction, like for her to hesitate with what she was doing or whatever. She was on a cell phone so I figured I would give it a shot and see if I could get her to hesitate. I stood in front of her waved my hands, shouted, tried to tap her on her shoulder... and nothing, not even a slight hesitation. Well after a few attempts at this with others I got a little bored.

  I was thinking about trying to shift my vibration/focus or whatever and see where I end up. I felt like a tug and movement. Before I know it Im in a city I don't recognize, I know it isn't my own though. Everything was very modern, not futuristic to the extreme or anything like you'd see in a movie. I walked down to a corner where a group of people where waiting for something. As I stood there I looked at them and their clothes and style different. A bus pulls up and the shape of the bus seems sort of normal, but more streamlined looking. The side of the bus said "future tram" (or transit something to that affect) I walked onto it and realized there was no driver, not even a seat to accommodate a driver.

   It was a driver-less bus. I stayed in it to see how this would play out. It stopped at all the stops/lights...etc all on its own to my amazement. Completely a self sufficient device. I waited a while looking at all the buildings..etc eventually we pull up into a structure and a curved road going up hill. We stop to let people on off I  went through the side of the bus and looked around and up. It was an amazing place the roof and everything was completely clear, made of glass. I was there for only a minute or two before I came back to myself but my impression is that it was a mall, with the people carrying bags out and all. As far as the manner of dress and the driver-less bus, no it hasn't happened yet (to my knowledge).

  I have searched myself the keywards I seen on the side of the bus and I did come up with an article online the headline read "A bus that can drive itself" and it was about the plausability of making a driverless bus, and a group of students from MIT I believe were just starting to work on it. So I guess one day we shall see =-)   (Note: got curious because this experience was a while back and searches didn't return too much, but here is something comparable to what I seen. if you look to the front where the driver area would be there are just other seats facing torwards the back for passengers, and this is exactly what I seen when going into the bus which puzzled me because when I seen that I said "where does the driver sit" then I said "Ohhhhh wait there must not be a driver" Heres a link:http://www.bornrich.org/entry/futuristic-driverless-electric-bus/   )

Bellend_1010

TY T.L. So anyone else got anything to report with this?

dingo

I once travelled back in time by about five minutes. When I got OOB, I flew around a bit, and stopped in a stone tower. After a couple of seconds this blue person flew in and stood beside me, and I got the impression it was female. I phased back to the physical and then attempted again, and this time I was drawn to the tower again, but I realised my past self was there too, and he flew off. I still don't understand why I was female the second time.

Bellend_1010

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Quote from: dingo on April 14, 2009, 09:37:29
I once travelled back in time by about five minutes. When I got OOB, I flew around a bit, and stopped in a stone tower. After a couple of seconds this blue person flew in and stood beside me, and I got the impression it was female. I phased back to the physical and then attempted again, and this time I was drawn to the tower again, but I realised my past self was there too, and he flew off. I still don't understand why I was female the second time.

How did you know it was your past self? this sounds like it could have only have happened in the Astral. I am referring to time travel where you may have seen the past or future in the realtime physical world (etheral). Do you have anything like that happen to you?

dingo

Quote from: Bellend_1010 on April 14, 2009, 13:00:51
How did you know it was your past self?
I just had a sense of knowing that it was me.

Quotethis sounds like it could have only have happened in the Astral.
Why is that?

QuoteI am referring to time travel where you may have seen the past or future in the realtime physical world (etheral). Do you have anything like that happen to you?
Initially I thought the experience was an astral experience, however more recently I've come to believe it was etheric, though where (when?) in the world this occurred I'm not too sure.

I have had another altered-time etheric experience if that last one doesn't please you. Strictly speaking, it might not be considered time travel, but one time I got out of body, flew out my window and spotted a small half-metre cloud just outside my window. It was paused in the air, and then I noticed that everything else wasn't moving either. I was moving free of time, I guess. I think the cloud may have been another entity or just a random ball of energy.

Robert Monroe wrote about some time travel experiences in his second and third books, if you're interested.

zareste

QuoteI once travelled back in time by about five minutes. When I got OOB, I flew around a bit, and stopped in a stone tower. After a couple of seconds this blue person flew in and stood beside me, and I got the impression it was female. I phased back to the physical and then attempted again, and this time I was drawn to the tower again, but I realised my past self was there too, and he flew off. I still don't understand why I was female the second time.
So finally we have more information on meeting past and future selves - even if it raises more questions. You seemed to be different people in both instances, so perhaps it wasn't a total paradox

I met a humanoid once who could go back and forth through time. He lived in a building somewhere in our future, in a deep forest somewhere. I was physically asleep when I met him. The building was wide and looked like our own architecture.

I didn't like this person because he was a leader of a cult or something, and one of his followers was annoying me. I found the building and decided to question the leader. When I found him, he let me inside the building. It was a library of sorts, and he explained what he and his followers were doing here. (unfortunately I must have zoned out during this) These books, I assume, were records from all different periods of human history.

I was interested in this leader because he was a different kind of human. He had a bigger cranium, tanned skin, very slim figure, and he wore no clothes. I've always wanted to chat with a humanoid face to face.

I started to find his tone of voice rather annoying, as he seemed to demand that I take his side on some issues. He came off as a manipulator. At one point, he stood very close to me and said "Sometimes, for a cause to succeed, people have to be killed." which I understand but I didn't know what his cause was.

We walked back outside and he handed me a book as I went down the stairs. I mentioned how cool it was to meet another humanoid, and he walked off unconcerned. Maybe it's a derogatory term to some. I opened the book and was pretty surprised to see a bunch of cave-man drawings. Just stick-men and animals - apparently he recorded these while living in ancient history. I flipped through the pages, mostly uninterested. I figured I'd humor him and at least glance through the book. Then I came upon one page that caught my attention - a drawing of a dark figure that caused me to stop turning the pages. It rattled me inside, even though it was crudely drawn by these cave people. I had no conscious memory of this creature, but felt like I knew it from somewhere. Perhaps this creature (or whatever force it represented) is what the leader's group was opposing.

I guess I time-traveled into the future to see this person, but he was able to go into ancient history for long periods, not like us where we can only do it while asleep. Kinda related to the topic.

Bellend_1010

K thankyou fella's.

Anyone else got anything? Anyone seen anything happen in the past or future from Etheral?

CFTraveler

Alternate past, alternate future, but it was astral.  Sorry.

dingo

Quote from: zareste on April 14, 2009, 21:57:32
So finally we have more information on meeting past and future selves - even if it raises more questions. You seemed to be different people in both instances, so perhaps it wasn't a total paradox
I don't think I was different people. I tend to be fairly androgynous while OOB or astral travelling. In almost half the dreams and out of body experiences I have, I'm female without intending it. I didn't explain because I guess it seemed embarrassing and it feels quite personal. I don't understand why it happens.

That encounter with the man in the woods that you wrote about was interesting. Any idea of the year? The books he had sound a lot like the "akashic records".

Quote from: CFTraveler on April 15, 2009, 08:56:01
Alternate past, alternate future, but it was astral.  Sorry.
I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Quote from: Bellend_1010
Anyone else got anything? Anyone seen anything happen in the past or future from Etheral?
I have a feeling there's something else I'm forgetting.

CFTraveler

Quote from: dingo on April 15, 2009, 11:55:13

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

The OP asked if etherically, I said no, mine were astral 'y'.
I had alternate past experiences in the style of "what would  have happened if this would have happened differently?" and went into an alternate past, and studied it from the point of view of the me that would have been there.
Then I went to the future (or present) and lived it as it would have happened if I would have chosen differently in my past. (I called it alternate future but it could be alternate present or even past.) I called it 'future' because the experience was in the future of when  I made the decision.
They were projections with separation both times, but there was a quality about them (mental) that make me think they were not necessarily etheric projections, but either astral with mental ingredients or mental with astral ingredients.
I suppose they could have been mental projections, but the surroundings were too RTZ for me to think of them that way.  But then again mental projections can seem etheric also, so it's up in the air.

So is it somewhat clearer now?

dingo

That sounds cool. I can think of a few uses for that. How did you do it? Did you just project with the "what if" question in the forefront of your mind?

zareste

QuoteThat encounter with the man in the woods that you wrote about was interesting. Any idea of the year? The books he had sound a lot like the "akashic records".
Yeah it's probably similar. A lot of psychic cultures use energy streams to create a central mind for everyone, like a computer. I'm not sure how they alter these streams but it's the same way the akashic records work. I'm guessing this guy's books were an interface for his group's central mind.

No clue what the year was. One of the guy's followers had been annoying me somehow (this was an ordinary human) so I tracked the person back to the building. Everything seemed normal but I was aware that this was in the future, just like going to a new location. The air was pretty clear and the forest was nice

CFTraveler

Quote from: dingo on April 15, 2009, 17:21:28
That sounds cool. I can think of a few uses for that. How did you do it? Did you just project with the "what if" question in the forefront of your mind?
No, it just happened, all in the space of a couple of weeks.  I suppose the questions have been there, but not when I had them.   I usually get "rashes of the same kind of thing" for days until 'I'm done'.  I'm not sure if I'm done  done with 'what if's,  but I'm satisfied that the main questions have been answered in an experiential way.
Once I had a series of projections, all to the same "place", which involved a series of 'tests' which I kept doing, until the last time when my 'teacher' told me I was done with that, or 'graduated'.
Once I'm done with something, I have a few aimless projections, sometimes to a school setting in which I'm sort of lost and wandering, and then the 'lessons' start again, with different themes.
Oops I think I'm derailing this thread now.  Sorry, OP.

Bellend_1010

Quote from: CFTraveler on April 15, 2009, 15:18:24
The OP asked if etherically, I said no, mine were astral 'y'.
I had alternate past experiences in the style of "what would  have happened if this would have happened differently?" and went into an alternate past, and studied it from the point of view of the me that would have been there.
Then I went to the future (or present) and lived it as it would have happened if I would have chosen differently in my past. (I called it alternate future but it could be alternate present or even past.) I called it 'future' because the experience was in the future of when  I made the decision.
They were projections with separation both times, but there was a quality about them (mental) that make me think they were not necessarily etheric projections, but either astral with mental ingredients or mental with astral ingredients.
I suppose they could have been mental projections, but the surroundings were too RTZ for me to think of them that way.  But then again mental projections can seem etheric also, so it's up in the air.

So is it somewhat clearer now?

So how did you know these were alternate pasts or futures you were viewing? and and say "lived it as it would have happened" you mean you were actually yourself there in the now?! as if you were alive in that timeline?!?

CFTraveler

Quote from: Bellend_1010 on April 15, 2009, 23:51:41
So how did you know these were alternate pasts or futures you were viewing?
Because of the content.
Quoteand and say "lived it as it would have happened" you mean you were actually yourself there in the now?! as if you were alive in that timeline?!?
Yes, occupying my 'there' body.  A bit disconcerting at first, but after a few times you catch on.


Bellend_1010

Quote from: CFTraveler on April 16, 2009, 12:49:27
Because of the content. Yes, occupying my 'there' body.  A bit disconcerting at first, but after a few times you catch on.


How did it feel when you were occupying your there body? was it at real as the body your in now? did you know at the time? please give more details of when you were in this other body and what you felt pls.

CFTraveler

Yes, it was as real as real life, once I got situated.  At first it was bewildering and confusing, after observing my surroundings I realized 'where/when' I was and  what was going on.

Bellend_1010

Think your able to occupy your future body on this timeline say a week in the future from now? you think that could work? you tried it?

zareste

Now there's a fun idea. Although, two iterations of the same spirit in one body? That's about as dangerous as dividing by zero

I'm wondering what happens if you interact with a former or future self. We seem to have one account saying alternate pasts and futures can be created, and one saying the past and future are tied together

dingo

Quote from: zareste on April 17, 2009, 08:40:06
I'm wondering what happens if you interact with a former or future self. We seem to have one account saying alternate pasts and futures can be created, and one saying the past and future are tied together
Well I'm still a firm believer in causality. I don't think you can change anything your state of mind is causally linked to. But I don't think there's anything that prevents the existence of parallel universes or "what if" worlds created purely for the purpose of education.

CFTraveler

I'm a proponent of the 'many worlds' theory.  I'm not a believer in any in specific, but I think some 'alternate futures' are more subject to probabilities than others, so it's not an 'infinite' set.
I don't know if you can go back in body and meet your own self, but I think you can project and communicate with some aspect of such.  I think we do this constantly, it's just that our physical selves are not 'aware' of this.
I don't think you can change the past in a timeline (because you'd just create another and immerse yourself into it, and never know).  So I do think that the future is never decided until you get there, and then it's the present.  (In other words, there is no future, only the anticipation of it.)  But that's another thread, I think.
As to whether I'd do it on purpose?  No, I don't think so.
When I did this it was not consciously 'on purpose', and I don't know if I could do this deliberately.  There may be some real reasons why my will isn't going to do it.  Anyway, I wouldn't want to anyway.
Interestingly, I had a short projection this morning in which some of this was discussed.  Maybe we all were discussing this in the astral.