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Sabrina

Hi all, I took a nap this afternoon with my hubby and groggily was woken up by what I thought was my hubby getting frisky with me.  I looked behind me and saw it wasn't him then I look over saw hubby sleeping with this man touching me from behind caressing my neck and lots of other, umm, how shall i say, erotic goings on. Next thing I was somewher else not in my bedroom anymore but I was swooshing around, twirling myself and when I would touch this man it would go right through him, if that makes sense.

I've astrally projected on and off for ten years now, usually from a deep sleep state and I seem to wake up while in the projection.  I've felt myself return to my physical body but never leave as alot of time I could feel myself leave my body but pull back in maybe because of fear?

Anyway this man said to me he had to leave, then I heard a buzzing sound with alot of people voices and all static like, or sort of like a radio not being tuned in (I've experience this before upon returning to my physical self).  I didn't want this man to go but then I felt myself lying down face to the ceiling then rolling over and falling back into myself (physical self lying on stomach).

I've tried to do a search on astral sex but nothing I found seemed similar to my experience.

Did I have an astral lover experience?  Any feedback greatfully appreciated. 

Sabrina

I'm replying to my post in a pseudo re post/new question because my first original post on here kinda seems self centered asking too much about myself and not what others have experienced. (and I didn't want to start a new topic after just joining tonight)

I've reading about rude awakenings during an obe or astral projection, what are other's experiences.  If you read my first post I might have answered myself here after what I've read about rude awakenings.  Yet it really is all so confusing.

Also on the astral lover thingy on my first post above, I've been reading about demons pretending to be an astral lover? Whaaa?????? Is that true?  Because if I had an astral lover experience lover experience I sure hope I wasn't being lovey dovey with some demon. 

Input and insight on everyones's experience in this realm I look forward to reading about on her .  Unfortunately I don't have many family or friends who aren't more than a little skeptical on these subjects.  If I try to talk to them about it I get the eye roll so it's been kinda frustrating.  I've really been enjoying reading these forums here.  :-)

QUALY

wow i heard that if you have sex with a demon that you will die in the physical world is this true!?!?
well even if it isnt im not taking any chances and how can i tell if its a demon or a person? do i try to hurt it and if it gets hurt its a demon? and if it doenst get hurt its another person?

dbmathis

Hi Sabrina,

I just started experimenting with Astral Projection 4 months ago and actually read a chapter in Robert Monroe's first book "Journey's out of the Body" that goes into some detail about Astral sex. He explains what he thinks it might be and what it feels like. He almost describes it as some sort of universal greeting, sort of like a hand shake. Now in his later books he talks about how twisted sex on Earth has become and how far away it's drifted from what it actually is when out of body.

I just recently (a few days ago) had a woman walk up to me in astral and ask for sex. Maybe I should have tried it and seen what happened but I was to intent on what I was set out to do and refused.

When I first started AP I thought that sex was a waste of time, especially in comparison to something as profound as leaving the body, but as I continue learning about AP and am starting to wonder if sex may be something bigger and more intertwined into the fabric of existence than I am aware of.

I wish I had more of the subject for you but I am very new at AP. 
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Sabrina and dbmathis-
I can't claim to have an enormous knowledge of this topic, but I tend to agree that sex-like experiences in the astral are more common and acceptable there than what they would be about here- and about totally different things.  I have had one experience that while it was not a typical sexual type experience by our standards, the sensations and feelings were comparable.   This had to do with an experience with a friend who had died a few years earlier. She came to me in what started for me as a lucid dream. Once I realized who she was in this dream, the dream part totally faded away, and she was all that remained.  She told me she was OK, and then said there was something she had wanted to do for me.  We then merged totally- so as you see, not a typical earthly connection, but an overall merging of energies.  The sensations and feelings I had during this were very similar to a physical encounter with a loved one on earth, but much more intense.  I also have had short little "quickies" with an unknown entity that were barely noticeable by comparison. So- I would have to say the quality of "sex" experiences you have may be proportional to the overall development of the entities involved.  Just like on earth planes, it means more depending on your relationship with those you have the experience with.   This and other experiences are in more detail in my blog. 
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Quote from: dbmathis on April 30, 2009, 08:37:46
Hi Sabrina,
I just recently (a few days ago) had a woman walk up to me in astral and ask for sex. Maybe I should have tried it and seen what happened but I was to intent on what I was set out to do and refused.

Good resolve, for sticking with your original intent dbmathis! :) While you have a point, that this may be of a higher purpose then we understand,having a tendency to relegate the erotic experience to the analogy of everyday encounters.... IMHO it's just a distraction, and any engagement with sense objects/experiences can be a distraction to complete awareness and sense of purpose in the Astral.

I admit these experience can feel much more intense than anything on the physical plane, I try to avoid them when possible.
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Sabrina

I will read up on your blog ancient_one.  It is such an intense experience, as has been any astral experience over the ten years I've been experiencing them.  I had gone for a few years with no astral projections at all, or I would feel myself start to pull out of my body but then pull myself back in many times.

I forgot how the day after I've had an astral experience everything seems so much clearer to me, I have this awareness and clarity in my head and feel very calm and peaceful.  I will try to avoid intimate astral experiences as it was almost too intense but I swear this astral entity totally snuck up on me.  It can be hard to describe in words how it feels.

I'd never had any luck when trying to induce myself into astral projection while trying to fall asleep, my experiences have always happened when I'd been asleep for some time then I feel myself twirling around.  Maybe now as I'm getting a little older into my forties I won't pull myself back out when going for a little trip to the astral plane. 

Thanks for your feedback everyone!


DH

Hello all,

I've wondered about astral sex too after a handful of experiences with some entities who seemed to want to become real friendly.  I gave into one which turned out to be positive.  I did an OBE workshop with William Buhlman (Secrets of the Soul, Adventures Beyond the Body) in Sedona AZ a couple of weeks ago, and the topic came up.  He's been doing OBE and researching it for 30-plus years, and he said that astral sex is common and there is nothing demonic about it.  He also said that in the lower astral realms that are denser and more like physical existence, astral sex is more like physical sex -- but in the realms where the vibrational level goes up and physical forms become irrelevant, it is more like a melding of consciousness -- and much more explosive as far as orgasms go.  Some of the workshop participants agreed with him.  My one experience seemed to line up with what Buhlman said.  I was definitely in an etheric state that seemed more like a copy of the physical world and the encounter seemed more physical.

Just my two bits,  DH
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Sabrina

Hi DH,

Sounds like it was quite the interesting workshop.  I've never been to Sedona but I understand it is a very spirtual place.  Maybe one day I will make it there as I"m in Boulder City, NV so it's only about a half day drive.

I am slowly refreshing myself on my astral knowledge since this experience yesterday greatly renewed my interest in ap.  After reading DH's stated that a more physical intensity is on the lower plane I'd have to say that was my experience.   I think I still pull myself out of the projection because of fear which I need to get over.

Thanks DH for posting.

Zarklon

hey Sabrina , hey everyone ;) Its been a while since I posted but I just happened to check the forums out again and found this thread :)

Sabrina , I've had the chance a bunch of times to go OBE in class when I first learned how to do it. I dont know of some of my older posts are on here but I may have mentioned this sexual encounter in one of them.

To make a long story short ,  I went OBE sitting up in my desk in class and when I got out , and looked around the room at people doing their work etc.. I walked out into the gym (our class was in the old school gym ).. and I immediately said .. ok I want to have sex with my girlfriend right now.. And I didnt really think about how it was gonna happen I just snapped my finger and expected her to appear and bam .. She was clothed as far as I know and I can remember sex was more like floating on the wooden gym floar as though we were sliding on ice easily like air hockey maybe.. I dont remember movements of it much .. I was much more enchanted by how much more intense it felt .. It was like a constant strong orgasm the whole time and its funny how this ended.. I felt something coming from somewhere.. and a noise too .. and I didnt know why but it felt like it was eminating from my throat ... but somewhere else too.. Then I realized that kinda feels wierd so I felt for my physical body and woke myself up slowly.. slow enough to feel it was my body actually grunting  like it was reacting to the astral sex. My head was pointed down so it felt uncomfortable to make any noise from the throat that way.

So yes to agree with it feeling much more intense yes. It was so much better than the real thing because its like .. the end result climax of the real thing , but constant the whole time.. its a climax until you turn it off .. or wake up ..  Its amazing :) Good luck with it but dont be naughty and give yourself bad karma either ;)
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Quote from: Sabrina on April 30, 2009, 23:58:13
Hi DH,
Sounds like it was quite the interesting workshop.  I've never been to Sedona but I understand it is a very spirtual place.  Maybe one day I will make it there as I"m in Boulder City, NV so it's only about a half day drive.
I am slowly refreshing myself on my astral knowledge since this experience yesterday greatly renewed my interest in ap.  After reading DH's stated that a more physical intensity is on the lower plane I'd have to say that was my experience.   I think I still pull myself out of the projection because of fear which I need to get over.
Thanks DH for posting.

Hello Sabrina,

If you are that close to Sedona, you need to go hang out a few days.  It is a spiritual place and soooo beautiful.  After the Buhlman workshop, I spent some time hiking in the Hopi Indian ruins, cave drawings, etc. and it was awesome.  The spiritual aspects of this is a whole other thread.

The Buhlman workshops are totally worth the time and money.  The workshop itself is relatively inexpensive -- $350  compared to over a thousand for others who do similar things. And it was a jammed packed weekend.  William Buhlman is a great guy.  A no-nonsense, no BS kind of guy. He was very patient and spent a lot of time with us after the hours of the workshop to answer one on one questions.  I found him to be refreshing, confident in what he'd experienced, but humble in admitting when he couldn't answer a question. A "real" guy compared to other metaphysical teachers I've met who are arrogant and condescending.

Fear is perhaps the biggest obstacle in OBE, and perhaps in all of life.  The fact is, Source (or God or Higher Self or whatever you want to call It) is in control.  I've learned that over many years.  At some point you have to learn to trust.  As far as the astral goes, I still maintain that my experiences have been all good.  The only negative things turned out to be my Higher Self helping me to get over my personal fears.

Your expectations will contribute to what happens, my sister.  Expect something wonderful to happen when you go OB.  Keep on keeping on and don't give up.  It pays off.

Hang in there, DH
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Quote from: QUALY on April 30, 2009, 06:21:05
wow i heard that if you have sex with a demon that you will die in the physical world is this true!?!?
well even if it isnt im not taking any chances and how can i tell if its a demon or a person? do i try to hurt it and if it gets hurt its a demon? and if it doenst get hurt its another person?

not gonna lie. thats some silly excrement