Using telekinesis while APing?

[pulsexx]

Would you please explain how my argument is invalid using logic instead of blind insults?


Is that because you're the murderer I've been justifying and you don't care to hypothesise the justifications of other cases of murder because the topic hits a little too close to home and you don't want your life closely scrutinized ?

And I think a few people argued against me because they have poor comprehension skills or because they form opinions around baseless assumptions and are too stubborn to admit they were wrong even though they didn't even know what they were talking about in the first place.

ie
-"i want to find out if I can kill people by using astral projection"
- "YOURE A BAD MAN IF YOU KILL!!!"
- "what about self defense"
- "YEAH WELL MAYBE SELF DEFENSE BUT YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO USE SELF-DEFENSE!"
- "yeah I can come up with a few scenarios"
- "OH YEAH WELL THE COURT WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU!!! LOL"
- "the united states doesn't have a flawless moral code and many people disagree with much of their policies and laws, and if you want to argue philosophically then it would probably come down to opinion but if you support self-defense in anyway then it could definitely be argumentative whether or not AP could be used as a just form of self-protection."

Besides the courts might not even disagree with me due to the "necessity defense." (I had to kill to survive.)

[pulsexx]

I don't think you can hurt somebody from the astral. Because the astral operates at a completely different frequency than the physical, it won't work. If your favorite radio station is at 106.5 FM, you won't hear it if you're tuned in at 1100 AM. As for communication? A friend of mine contacts people across the US, and says at best, they remember about 85% of the conversations they have. That's with a person who regularly practices dream recall. It all depends on the person's ability to remember visions from altered states, and the skill of the projector.

There are already cases of this I was looking for more evidence or methods. 

Also I've had the same thing happen to me, I shared a dream with someone but it happened as a fluke. I was wondering what method your friend uses to control it?

[Asguard]

Maybe changing your frequencies could work.

"As above, so below" ?

[Xanth]

Me thinks this thread should have been locked after page 2. 

[Slix]

Alright, I'll explain this by putting my self in the shoes of the killer. Let's say I threatened to kill someone and then they surprised me and killed me. They just didn't murder me, I threatened them and then they retaliated. If they just killed me out of nowhere THEN it would be murder.

thats what i was saying, the fact is it's very unlikey or impossible for you to kill someone through AP in self defence. in my opinion you should defend yourself like everyone else would. if you feel you need to go out and buy a few tazers or something then fair enough, booby trap your house if it'll make you feel any better.

...but it's your choice of what to do. If you make what most would consider a wrong choice then ok, fair enough, provided you're willing to live with the consequences.

Me thinks this thread should have been locked after page 2. 

indeed, not only is it about killing someone, albeit in self defence, but because this thread touches on something we all hold strong and somewhat differing opinions on and i can only see this thread leading to more flaming. yet if the mods feel there's a good reason for this to stay open then so be it...