rapid heart rate

[takman]

i did a search on here before i posted this...but ddint get much...or the replies were mostly the same.

im getting a really rapid heart rate before i think im going to leave my body. Its not my heart chakra, its my actual physical heart beat.  i tried tonight, and my heart was beating so fast and hard, i had to stop. In fact, my chest doesnt feel good it was so rapid. AND, i was totally relaxed, not excited at all.

I have been trying AP for a number of years now off and on. Its always been the same. I get near to where i think its going to happen, and my heart rate goes thru the roof.

I have a book i bought a couple years ago, that i only read thru maybe a 1/4 of it. And my step mother just gave me a AP she had that like 30 years old lol.

Anyways, yea, i have half arsed it when it comes to reading an entire book and going thru all the techniques. But i have had a feeling for many years that i can do it with out all the technical mumbo jumbo...maybe not eh?

So maybe theres a technique somewhere in the books, which i do intend to read completely. This time, im going to put forth the effort and really try to do it. but the heart rate thing has got me worried.

Ohh and one more thing...the only medcial "condition" i have, is i get heart palipitations every now and then. I do drink 1 cup of coffee everday in morning. but everytime i have tried to AP has been at night. Maybe i should cut out the caffeine anyways?

[Panthau]

coffein sucks, its not good for your blood pressure in the long run.

ive read several hints in different books and also on this forum that
a strong heart beat is quite normal. Maybe its a fear that expresses itself
this way...?

Btw, i just finished a book about AP from 1922 hehe

[Brianna6432]

You've been trying it for years? Okay, now I feel bad for you. ( no offense )

Firstly, if you can't handle the racing heart then you won't be able to have an OBE. This is normal for the heart to race right before leaving the body. You should have read more on this. Also, I would suggest buying a CD. They're only like $20 and it's completely worth it. It doesn't take years for the CD to work. In fact, the CD worked for me the first time I tried it.

[Xanth]

May I ask "HOW" you know it's your physical heart?
Because what you're reporting sounds exactly like your heart chakra energizing up.
It'll feel *EXACTLY* as if your heart is popping out of your chest... but rest assured, it won't. 

So, unless you've got someone laying their hands on you while you're practicing... then it's your chakra.
If you do have an outside witness, then I apologize and you can ignore this post. 

[FilipeF]

This has been my biggest issue aswell since I've been trying OBEs, which have been only a half dozen serious tries. However I feel I'm slowly getting better at controlling it.
The heart racing starts when I get that spinning and groggy feeling in my head and after the body is numb.
I've managed to bypass this once by using the "cellphone technique" that was posted in this forum which made me jump right to full sleep paralysis, but even the cellphone technique only worked once.

The heart beats feel very very real but peculiar too, they seem to come more strongly from the center of your chest instead of your left side where the heart is.

[Stookie]

I had that in the beginning, both chakra pulsing and heart rate, and I remember it being kinda scary. When I would stop for a week or 2 and come back, it would be very strong again. But when I got into a more regular schedule, all of it slowly subsided, and each time was less and less intense. Now I very rarely get any vibrations at all, even after a long break.

[CFTraveler]

This has been my biggest issue aswell since I've been trying OBEs, which have been only a half dozen serious tries. However I feel I'm slowly getting better at controlling it.
The heart racing starts when I get that spinning and groggy feeling in my head and after the body is numb.
I've managed to bypass this once by using the "cellphone technique" that was posted in this forum which made me jump right to full sleep paralysis, but even the cellphone technique only worked once.

The heart beats feel very very real but peculiar too, they seem to come more strongly from the center of your chest instead of your left side where the heart is.

Go to the doctor and get an EKG.  I had the same thing, assumed it was heart chakra because it only happened when I was relaxing, until my hubby listened to my heart while it was happening.
It turned out to be an 'early beat', which is not really dangerous (at least for me), but can get freaky when it feels like your heart is trying to escape out of your chest.  When I was having another test (an echocardiogram, to rule out physical abnormalities) the tech told me that a lot of people don't realize they have this until they start to cultivate meditation, because it raises awareness in a relaxed state, and it's more noticeable when reclining or laying down, due to the closeness of your face/neck to your chest.
Now it's just an interesting thing, no big deal.
But if there seems to be a physical problem it's best to rule it out before something happens.

[FilipeF]

Go to the doctor and get an EKG.  I had the same thing, assumed it was heart chakra because it only happened when I was relaxing, until my hubby listened to my heart while it was happening.
It turned out to be an 'early beat', which is not really dangerous (at least for me), but can get freaky when it feels like your heart is trying to escape out of your chest.  When I was having another test (an echocardiogram, to rule out physical abnormalities) the tech told me that a lot of people don't realize they have this until they start to cultivate meditation, because it raises awareness in a relaxed state, and it's more noticeable when reclining or laying down, due to the closeness of your face/neck to your chest.
Now it's just an interesting thing, no big deal.
But if there seems to be a physical problem it's best to rule it out before something happens.

I see, I once had palpitations before trying any of this... made EKG and blood tests but not echocardiogram. Everything was fine and the doc concluded that it was probably just stress from school exams.
So if it does turn out to be early beat how do you deal with it?

[CFTraveler]

Just for the sake of clarification, the echo didn't find anything structurally wrong- it was just a precaution, because heart 'things' run in my family, so the doctor wanted to be extra careful.

However, what I was told is that to avoid problems such as mine, I should cut down on caffeine (which I haven't, I'm not very disciplined with my diet), and to maintain a high level of activity throughout the day.  The reason is that with an early beat the skips happen when you're relaxed and the heart rate drops to a slow rate.  Since the electric impulse is coming up a bit earlier than usual, the heart momentarily 'gets confused' and waits 'til the next one to beat again.  So it's not dangerous, in that the impulse is always there (so there's no danger of fibrillation or anything like that), but there will be skipped beats if the rate drops down 'just right'.
If you keep a steady 'high energy' pace throughout the day, the heart rate accelerates just slightly enough for the recovery phase of the beat to synch with the incoming impulse, so that there are no skips.
For some reason caffeine seems to aggravate this problem and any drugs that cause rate changes can probably affect it too.
But for a 'regular healthy' person it's not dangerous, just annoying.
The way I handle it personally (and that tells you a little of how my mind works, lol) is I get a stethoscope and listen to where I feel the pressure start to build and the knocking to start, and listen to what the heart is doing while it happens.  Once I'm sure it's not something else (like a muscle twitch in the chest area), I time it like contractions.  Or, I find a light object that moves when the 'hit' happens,  such as one of those tiny reading lamps.   Then I get bored and go to sleep.
No, I never try to project when that is going on.  One time, in the middle of highly unusual problems, I had a 'you're dead' dream.  I wondered if I had a very quick NDE during one of those- but more than likely it was my own imagination.
I can tell you that it doesn't happen very often, and sometimes it clusters up, usually when there's nothing interesting going on.
(another insight into what kind of crazy I am).  

[FilipeF]

Ah thanks, the skipped beat while the heart rate goes down does sound like what I experience sometimes. But was there any specific test that confirmed the condition? Shouldnt my EKG have confirmed that?

[Lighten]

I'm no doctor, but from personal human experience, I notice that other symptoms show up when your heart races. For example, heaver or faster breathing, sweating, light headed. Do you experience any of these other symptoms? If you do then it might be phyisical, if you don't its prolly not. Just remember your heart can beat like that for a long time before it becomes detrimental to your health, so if your just trying to OBE and it only happens right before, keep going. But its prolly really distracting, I know if my heart just starting to race out of nowhere I would lose all concentration. Good luck

[takman]

You've been trying it for years? Okay, now I feel bad for you. ( no offense )

Firstly, if you can't handle the racing heart then you won't be able to have an OBE. This is normal for the heart to race right before leaving the body. You should have read more on this. Also, I would suggest buying a CD. They're only like $20 and it's completely worth it. It doesn't take years for the CD to work. In fact, the CD worked for me the first time I tried it.

well geez, i guess im not just as gifted as you 

I said off and on over the years i had tried. Maybe 12 times seriously.

i didnt imply that i couldnt "handle it".  It does seem to be hindering my ability to achieve AP, and i just wanted to get reassurances from others that they were experiencing the same thing.

regardless its not going to stop me....i will overcome it.

can you give me a link of the CD you bought?

[CFTraveler]

Ah thanks, the skipped beat while the heart rate goes down does sound like what I experience sometimes. But was there any specific test that confirmed the condition? Shouldnt my EKG have confirmed that?

Since it's a random thing, usually a Halter monitor is what is used to detect it.