Is it possible to enter and/or possess your physical body from the past/future?

[l0stang3lz]

Dear all, I hope I don't repeat a question already asked/answered. If so please just reply sending the link.

Since I'm new with this OBE/AP thing, I was thinking:

a) we OBE each night when we are dreaming.
b) it is possible to travel into the past or even to the future while being out of the physical body
c) you can't possess somebody else's body (at least that's what I heard - except in the case of mediums        that allow that)

BUT...

Is it possible to transfer your consciousness into YOUR OWN BODY from the past or from the future and animate it doing whatever you want with it, while it would normally be asleep? (something like "The Butterfly Effect" kind of thing)?

Anybody done that?

[Xanth]

A)  This is correct.
B)  When out of body, you're not limited to any perception of linear time.
C)  That's a good question... I'd have to say no, but meh.  Try it and tell us what happens. 

[l0stang3lz]

hello Xanth
the problem is that i cannot OBE yet. that's why i asked 

[kurtykurt42]

a) Yes
b) Yes, but the past or future might be of an alternate reality and not the actual past.
c) Yes, If other beings can possess people i see no reason why an advanced enough projector could do the same.

I had a couple of experiences where i met my future self in the astral, who was helping me learn how to project. I guess he decided to leave me alone so i could get back to concentrating on school. I even tried calling for him but he explained to me that it's important that I focus my full attention on my studies.

[l0stang3lz]

The most important question that simply arises is the following:
can you modify the timeline?
still if you could, I suppose there would be no way of knowing it because the altering would take effect, and the new you would have no memory of the alternate (not modified) you...
I guess I am entering into another subject that not even the cuantic physics is able to answer for sure...
still I am interested in you opinions and/or experiences. so please continue 

one more question for kurtykurt42: how can you know for sure if the past or future are from alternate realities/parallel universes or not? and more, if one knows even in part his possible future, doesn't mean that is not gonna happen for that reason? (I hope I'm making any sense here... it's a bit late 4 me )

[kurtykurt42]

If you had access to a time machine then you could modify A timeline. You would still have your memories of the past, going threw time doesn't erase your memories. The hard part would be coming back to this exact realty from the past, especially after your alter it. If I go back to 1970 and kill my father then I won't exist in that future reality. But if i return to the reality where I am typing this post know than i will exist.

You would need a technological instrument to tell you what realty you are in, probably something found in a UFO.

Yes, if you know the future you can change it. But the "me" who talked to me may have come from thousands of years in the future, by which point I would most likely have forgotten about the experience I had with him. And when the day comes that I am living in a higher dimension, I would gladly help my lower self.

[l0stang3lz]

the quantic physics found a way to avoid this paradox. so they say that if one would kill a relative in the past, an alternate timeline would be developed (idk why one would have so much power) so when you come back eather you end up in the alternate present or in the normal present where things are the same.

one more thing is that you don't exactly have access to a time machine, and your body remains in the normal time. if you create an alternate timeline... well it's logical that there would be 2 physical bodies awaiting for just 1 astral body to come back... but we have to also consider that killing ones (grand)parent would automatically result in not being borned - in that alternate reality so one will come back home in the very personal physical body.

related to the memories... idk. it may also be created a loop of causality just like the grandfather paradox. logics may not apply as what we consider logic with our limited knowledge on the subject might be illogical in fact. time travel might have implications that we cannot even comprehend.

[kurtykurt42]

In order to mature as a race these are the types of questions we are going to have to deal with. Many scientists don't believe in interstellar space travel or time travel. I assure you that both exist and governments have been experimenting with them for over 50 years. As far as logic not applying I would have to disagree. Whether these devices are created in the astral, physical or any other dimension, they will require a high degree of knowledge and understanding. Being a Computer Engineer i can assure you that every piece of technology that has ever been created relies on logic. As well as the affects they produce.

These ideas may seem like science fiction for now but they may be right around the corner. Soon we will learn how to use space, time, gravity, nano-tech and dimensional devices, all of which can have devastating outcomes if used improperly. But Mastering electricity is the first step.

As for the implications of time travel... I can think of quite a few but none of which i can't comprehend. There would be significant Psychological Implications. For example meeting a younger/older you, old friends when they were young, your parents when they were in high school (back to the future). Having machines from the future come after you to stop you from disrupting the timeline (Terminator). Even if you were able to just go back in time one day you would have to deal with a double of yourself.

[l0stang3lz]

You are perfectly right regarding the implications and dealing with different aspects. But what I meant is not the technological part that may arise problems. It's the fact that maybe neither you nor me knows anything about the physics of a time travel. It's like when they said that you cannot fly with a machine that is heavier than the air. But they did not take into consideration(because they didn't know about it) the phenomenon of portance(IDK if that is the word in eng.). The air pressure above the wing is lower than below it.
I read a lot of things about time travel which puzzled me for many years now, but we don't learn in school may things about that. 
Regarding the movies... hmmm I know each of them has a flaw in the logic and sometimes contradict themselves. That's why I love them but not judge them anymore.
e.g. I read an interesting post on another forum about teleportation: including the soul "variable" into this equation would turn a teleporting chamber into a death chamber... you can't order the soul to inhabit the new body created in another place of the space as a result of the teleporting that physical body away.

But in the light of AP and OBE, StarTrek(which I happen to like sooooo much) would become a nonsense. I would be such a waste of resources to travel at Warp5 with your physical body when you can instantly "teleport" your astral body there  !!!