Orgonite

[Timandra]

Does anyone have any experience with orgonite cones? Does it really turn negative energy into positive, does it really purify the atmosphere and does it really busts clouds? I saw it at a wellness fair, in many shapes and they were quite expensive, but if it really works I could make some myself. But perhaps they are fake, so I would like to hear from someone who has tried it.

[Timandra]

So, no one eh? It probably means that orgonite is not that important or interesting to use or that it is not working. 

[Xanth]

This is actually the first I've ever heard of it.
Googled it quickly and found: http://www.soul-guidance.com/health/orgonite.htm

Like any other new-age crystal-type-thing... it's intriguing... that's all I'll say for the moment as I haven't read the entire page to form an opinion. 

[Timandra]

Ahh, yes, that could be it. That it is fairly unknown. And thanks for adding a good link Xanth, I should have done that in my first post. Anyway, if I can find the ingredients, I may try to make some orgonite objects and try them out. 

[kurtykurt42]

I read Wilhelm Reich's wikipedia entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich

He seems to have been very intelligent and worked closely with many brilliant psychologists and Physicists. In the end he claimed to have isolated a "primordial cosmic energy," which he called orgone. It was blue in color, omnipresent, could be seen with the naked eye, and was responsible for such things as weather, the color of the sky, gravity, the formation of galaxies, and the biological expressions of emotion and sexuality.

It is interesting that the FBI and FDA confiscated all or his books and journals. Remember that this was in the 1950's and there has been nothing yet in science to validate his claims of a solid state substance which has the properties he describes. Although, It would be nice to create a device that controls the weather, "he could create clouds and make it rain or disperse clouds and create a clear blue sky."

[Tiny]

I own Orgonite and it's a major life enhancer.


Be very, very grateful that you are fortunate enough to have come to know about Orgonite, that's all I can say about this.

[kurtykurt42]

What effects do you experience?

[dbmathis]

Hi Timandra,

I have actually been experimenting with Orgonite for about a year now and it is valid based on my own personal observations and validations. Many will argue it's validity but I challenge them to do their own tests and validations before making remarks.

I have a Performer and a Rad5 which both incorporate Orgonite and actually generate an orgone field.

I have placed the orgone transfers by plants i have at home and have seen very exciting results. I have run trends on myself and family members and have brought very positive change into my life.

Check out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srbWl8-ia_E

And then these links if you are interested:

http://www.orgone.net/c_orgone_generator_performer.html
http://www.orgone.net/c_orgone_generator_rad5.html

[kurtykurt42]

The RAD 5 = Radionics Device, 5 Generators in Donut Shape-- top of line orgone radionics™ device - $2,969.00

Performer 2400 = Heavy Duty Specialty Device - $1,619.00

Total = $ 4,588.00 + S&H

Is it really worth that much? What results have you had?

[dbmathis]

Is it really worth that much? What results have you had?

I guess this depends on what you place the most value on in your life and how much money you make. My answer to the first question is yes it's worth that much.

I am not going to go into personal testimonials because it's too easy for people to just dismiss it as fiction and I know from life experience that the only person who ever proved anything to me was myself. I will testify that my plants stay green even in the 106 Texas heat and that alone is worth $5000.00.

You can test it yourself here:

http://www.rrr.bz/

http://www.rrr.bz/transfertest/chicard-test.html

[kurtykurt42]

Maybe i'll try to make one of these orgone generators. I have a computer engineering degree and i have several friends with electrical engineering degrees and once i tell them that people are buying these for $3,000 they might get serious. Tell me what you think about this website.

The reason why they are so expensive on that website is because he builds them with an analog frequency generator. These alone can cost up to $600. A cheaper way would be to attach an mp3 player and run the frequencies through silver wire and mobius coils. You could use the Brain Wave Generator with presets set at the various frequencies to stimulate the coils which reacts with the orgone and quartz crystals.

Here is a free e-book from another great website with some interesting orgone facts.

[Tiny]

What effects do you experience?

First of all, this is not about these fancy, expensive electricity driven generators. I can't say anything about their efficiency but i'd say it's probably not worth it because the passive Resin-metal-mineral generators, of which one costs 1-40$ material cost, are effective for most intents and purposes.

I wrote a big post but it was all gone after this server apparently hicked up again, so i will sum up some of it.

I will rewrite some of the the things...


My experience:


Been carrying a TB (Towerbuster) in my pocket wherever I go, usually just for walks in the fields or forest.

This device is just worth 1-2$ and big enough to effectively neutralize the orgone-dulling effects of a cell-tower. Remember, this big effect is due to support by a Quartz mineral that is encased inside the metal/resin composite.



Before:

Gradual etheric body exhaustian, parallel physical exhaustion.

After:

Perpetual etheric body stimulation but physical exhaustion becomes more apparent. It feels everytime like i hadn't eaten enough.
I interprete this as that my physical body can not match up with the uplift of energy my Etheric Body receives from the Orgonite piece, hence my physical body tries to synchronize with the high energy of my etheric body and so my physical body asks for more food intake.
It's comparable to playing a computer game, you have a fast graphics process but too little memory (the sticks) or the CPU is just not fast enough to give the graphics processor the precalculations, and so the game stutters instead of running smooth.

I can definatly account for an increase in hunger since having Orgonite devices in close proximity 24/7 (about 4 months). However, apetite does not seem to increase with it, and therefore I have not gained any weight yet.


Orgonite could somehow be mistaken as a an Orgone creator but it's not. It is a "passive" generator, meaning that it works upon Orgone (etheric) stimulation.
So, when there is dead, dull energy around it will be re-vitalized by Orgonite, based on the etheric-laws  discovered by Wilhelm Reich, which are that organic compounds suck energy like a sponge while metal repells them.
A composite or matrix of both creates a kind of etheric current which perpetually revitalizes frozen Orgone energy.

I happen to disagree with people who say that Orgone "converts negative into positive energy", I think that's a really insufficient discription.

In my opinion, what happens is that our microwave transmitting "cell-towers", wireless transmissions, etc. cause the Orgone in the air to literally freeze or atleast slow-down, just like magnets on the physical level force magnetic objects into their prison, being unable to move.
Psychics have seen dull grey/blackish energy emitting from cell-towers, which they might mistake as negative-energy, but seems to me rather to be frozen etheric energy, considering that the tower blasts near to a million watts of pure electromagnets through the air!



According to psychics this effect of orgone-dulling goes over kilometers in range but is completly wiped out as soon as an Orgonite device is placed within 200 meters of the tower.

After the process of gifting Orgonite (usually burrying Orgonite or throwing it into the shrub nearby), psychics would see the dull grey energy reducing to just a few feet within the tower's walls.


The most irrefutable proof of Orgonite's vitalization effects can be seen from recreational controlled plant experiments that have been independantly conducted.
An Orgonite "HHG" device within an extremely close range of 15 feet would cause atleast double to about tripple the yield, would cause non-indigenous plants to grow where they previously couldn't, and in some cases, depending on the plant of course, would also make the plants grow higher and faster.

There are also indications that Orgonite devices near food causes them to last longer so I put a TB in my fridge aswell.


Here's a link to a scanned article in the Fortean Times mainly adressing the effect of Orgonite on plants.

http://img142.imageshack.us/i/ftorgonite.jpg/


See also:

http://images.google.de/images?gbv=2&hl=de&sa=1&q=orgonite+plants&aq=f&oq=

http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/anglais/visibleeffectgarden2.htm

[Timandra]

Thank you all very much for your answers and links and interesting info. I see there is more to orgonite than you first might think. I meant indeed the resin/metal/mineral type shapes Tiny mentioned, but apparantly there are many more possibilities with it. I am defenitely going to use orgonite with my pumpkins and plants next year, and see what difference it will make. 

[kurtykurt42]

I spent all day reading the entire 135 page Modern Orgone document which I provided in the link in my previous thread. It definitely has some interesting affects when supplied with different frequencies. The orgone alone has unpredictable behavior but when supplied with different frequencies it can cause different effects:

Alpha 7.0 Hz   ~ To Enhance ESP [Extra Sensory Projection], & Intuition
Alpha 12.0 Hz ~ For Cantering Yourself And Balance, & Greater Harmony
Theta 3.5 HZ  ~ For Super Learning, Especially Of Languages, & Retention
Theta 6.3 Hz  ~ For Super Learning, To Boost Memory, & Mental Confidence
Beta 14.1 Hz  ~ For Efficiency In Daily Activities: Emotional, Mental, & Physical
4.9 Hz ~ Induce relaxation, meditation & deeper sleep
528 Hz ~ Mend DNA and strengthens the cell wall to boost immunity [Dr Rife]
441 Hz ~ The King's Chamber Frequency, clears a chaotic room [Dr Rife]
30 KHz [square wave] ~ cures AIDS, if you  change your lifestyle too.

This also depends on the size of the orgone generator.

Scientists seem to finally be taking the etheric body into consideration and that's what theses websites and articles address. It's pretty obvious why doctors and government officials would want to keep this a secret, as in the case of Wilhelm Reich. I believe if a large enough orgone generator is built you could use it to do what is claimed above. Mend DNA and strengthens the cell wall to boost immunity, cure AIDS, cure cancer, etc.

I will consider building one but my only concern is it's effects on electronics. I plan on creating a big one using large quartz crystals and pounds of metal shavings. I will attach an mp3 device to the coils which will be running a computer program to control the frequency input.

[kurtykurt42]

I just found http://www.warriormatrix.com/index.php

It's a forum dedicated only to orgone.

They have quite a few interesting posts.

[Tiny]

I just found http://www.warriormatrix.com/index.php

It's a forum dedicated only to orgone.

They have quite a few interesting posts.

Yea it's indeed a nice forum and I was member until Sensei, the owner banned me, he later told me that it was because I was mentioning the inventor of modern orgonite, Don Croft once too often.
Sensei wants to rule.

[Timandra]

Kurt, I looked at the first website-link in one of your previous posts. Well I don't believe in "thought control", but I do believe that these cell phone towers can emit bad frequencies that can do us harm. The more I read about orgonite the more interesting it gets. I wish you good luck with building your own orgone generator. I will try and "build" a resin type one, but I wonder where all these people (on youtube video's) get their metal shavings from, from all these different metals. Finally, that organite-forum is very interesting to read. Thanks for finding that. Perhaps more people on Astral Pulse will now also become interested in orgonite. 

[indigodream]

Just a quick post to point out that Karl Hans Welz actually invented orgonite, not Don Croft. Don Croft admits this himself. There is a misconception that he invented it. His formula is different than the original, though.

Karl Hans Welz has videos on youtube, and one in particular shows how to make orgonite. I believe dbmathis posted the link to that video in his post. I know for his formula, he uses metal dust and shows the brand in the video. Metal dust is better than shavings, since it enables smaller orgonite devices. Karl says in his videos that people should try making both his version and the other versions and compare the two.

[Steel Hawk]

You guys might be interested in: www.littlemountainsmudge.com

The guy there has some good ideas and plans for these machines.

I've studied orgone for a few years now. It's essentially what use to be called AETHER. Which was actually part of scientific theories circa 1920. I view it as subtle energy which exists everywhere in infinite amounts.

You can also read up on mesmerism, I recommend Franz Mesmer's books. Google Books is handy for searching these terms out. Basically he did experiments using crystals and psychics and noticed an energy stream coming from the points of crystals and magnets.

Aether, orgone, magnetism, mesmerism, chi, astral planes, etc. are all related -- but I got stumped on how exactly to fit them all together.

RADIONICS works on the three basic principles of magick:

1. Target
2. Will
3. Energy

The target is whatever it is you want to affect. Will is the desired outcome or what you want to happen. Energy is what it takes to do said things.

You don't need radionic devices to do this. Although the theory is the crystal used attunes to the Target and your Will and constantly uses orgone Energy to project the spell (for lack of a better word).

I've thought about building one, they're very simple to make, but really using my own inner abilities has always been enough for what I needed. Plus using magic is tricky and you can fall down a dark hole pretty easily. You will pay in one way or another for what you do via magic. And the more misaligned with the universe it is the more you will pay.

Seriously though unless you have money to burn you're far better off making your own device -- cheaper and more powerful.

[dbmathis]

Seriously though unless you have money to burn you're far better off making your own device -- cheaper and more powerful.

The truth of the matter is that if you take this stuff seriously then:

RADIONICS (my Rad5) works on the three basic principles of magick:

1. Target (Me)
2. Will (Money)
3. Energy (Rad 5)

Money is no longer an issue because the universe just brought me more than I will ever need.

[Steel Hawk]

Yes... I'm not trying to knock your purchase, it looks like a nice device. If money is what you want to use it for I guess it doesn't matter.

[kurtykurt42]

How did you get the universe to bring you money?

Did you use something like this?

Attract Wealth With Radionics

[Tiny]

Just a quick post to point out that Karl Hans Welz actually invented orgonite, not Don Croft. Don Croft admits this himself. There is a misconception that he invented it. His formula is different than the original, though.

Karl Hans Welz has videos on youtube, and one in particular shows how to make orgonite. I believe dbmathis posted the link to that video in his post. I know for his formula, he uses metal dust and shows the brand in the video. Metal dust is better than shavings, since it enables smaller orgonite devices. Karl says in his videos that people should try making both his version and the other versions and compare the two.

Karl Weltz is not the inventor of modern Orgonite though.

He did put metal shavings and resin into a bottle, charged ridiculously much for it and Don Croft got his hands on a piece i believe.

Don Croft then had psychics help him develope a better more efficient orgonite device, by adding minerals to it hence Don Croft is the inventor of modern Orgonite. Don Croft never patented anything and wants this to go around the world, to be gifted not to be sold.


I think generally spoken Orgonite negates the need for these electronic devices Weltz created but I could be mistaken.

Orgonite purifies and supplies a big radius around it with stimulated Orgone. It makes plants within a range of 15 feet take on tripple yield, sometimes double size depending on plant, and faster growth. It also increases germination capacity manifold.

I just don't see why the world needs Karl Weltz' radionics devices.

[dbmathis]

Yes... I'm not trying to knock your purchase, it looks like a nice device. If money is what you want to use it for I guess it doesn't matter.

. I didn't purchase any of my devices. I used the law of attraction and the universe brought me them as well, for free.

[dbmathis]

How did you get the universe to bring you money?

Did you use something like this?

Attract Wealth With Radionics

No. The universe was bringing me money way before I owned radionics. I just used the laws of attraction.

I think generally spoken Orgonite negates the need for these electronic devices Weltz created but I could be mistaken.

Orgonite does not negate the need for electronic devices because Orgonite is only an accumulator. The electronic devices are generators and can create enough chi to effect multiple people at once. For example I am at a meeting at work and run a trend on 5 people at once to create the desired outcome. There's the benefit.

FYI .. His name is Karl Welz not Karl Weltz. Weltz sounds like something you find on your body after being cracked by a bullwhip.