God and Creation, how to gain more Consciousness

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jpmohave

First you need to know your goal, why are you pursuing this?  To rejoin the spirit of creation.

http://us.figu.org/portal/SpiritualTeachings/Creation/tabid/93/Default.aspx

What is Creation?

Excerpt from Stimme der Wassermannzeit, No. 89 December 1993

Creation is the immeasurable mystery suspended in immeasurable expanse.
Creation is identical to 'Universal Consciousness', which guides and prevails in the BEING of consciousness; it is a double-helix, egg-shaped configuration that simultaneously constitutes the Universe in its growing expansion. Its pulsating double-helix arms live as spiritual energy, while rotating against each other.
The Universe is Creation's internal and external body.
Creation --- through its entirety pulsate the Universal 'Gemüt' (a non-translatable German term for the spiritual counterpart to the psyche) and the Universal Consciousness, the power of life and existence in general.
Creation pervades everything and everything pervades Creation, therefore forming oneness within itself. Within this oneness occur all life and all of the evolution allotted to it.
Creation has the identical developmental and evolutionary process as every life form, --- however, its values of time are anchored in very high values indeed.
Creation itself exists in a conscious creative state for seven Great-Times. --- Subsequently it lays dormant for an equal number of Great-Times, but this time they last seven times as long. Following this period, Creation is awake to create once again for a period seven times as longer once again than the previous one. (One Great-Time is equal to 311,040,000,000,000 terrestrial years; seven Great-Times add up to 2,177,280,000,000,000 terrestrial years, also called an eternity; 7 x 7 Great-Times make one All-Great-Time.)
Creation is The Creation and there exists no Creation other than it within its own Universe.
Creation is the Creation of all creations such as the Universe, the galaxies, stars, earths (earth is equivalent to 'planets' in this context), skies, light and darkness, time, space and all multitudes of life forms in existence, each according to its own species.
Creation is justice, love, strength, wisdom, knowledge, compassion, freedom, mercy, laws, directive, alliance, fulfillment, evolution, life, support, joy, beauty, peace, infallibility, equilibrium, spirit, forever, logic, growth, perfection, contentment, inexhaustibility, omnipotence, sweetness, infinity, solidarity, perception, harkening, elevation, the Sohar, gentleness, lucidity, purity, transformation, origin, future, power, reverence, allness and BEING.
Creation is the BEING and non-BEING of life. It is the most immense mass of spiritual energy in the Universe.
Creation is spirit in its purest form and immeasurable in its wisdom, knowledge, love and harmony in truth.
Creation is a spiritually dynamic, pure-spirit energy that prevails over everything. Incomprehensible for human beings, it is an active, creative wisdom in the midst of its own incessant evolution; it is all-encompassing for all times.
Creation is verity, the all-embracing, solace, comprehensiveness, guidance, equality, accuracy, cognition, empirical knowledge, admonition, discipline, recollection, revelation, praise, perfection, explanation and direction.
Creation is the path of life; it is nature, light, fire and contemplation; Creation is consciousness, and it is omnipresent.

Glory be to Creation.

Billy Meier

kurtykurt42

That's great but i can't help but notice that "creation" is used about 23 times in the paragraph and the initial definition of what it is doesn't seem very sound.

Quote from: jpmohave on July 27, 2009, 16:41:32
Creation is the immeasurable mystery suspended in immeasurable expanse.

The universe is a finite and therefore measurable space which seems to be becoming less mysterious as the years go by. Astronomers can place a lower limit to the age of the universe by studying globular clusters. If the universe is flat and composed mostly of matter, then the age of the universe is 2/(3 Ho) where Ho is the value of the Hubble constant. If the universe has a very low density of matter, then its extrapolated age is larger: 1/Ho, This would put the age at about 12-14 billion years.

I don't know if creation is the right word for all of those definitions. It sure makes it confusing when someone asks "Do you believe in creation?"




jpmohave

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Quote from: kurtykurt42 on July 28, 2009, 21:49:39
That's great but i can't help but notice that "creation" is used about 23 times in the paragraph and the initial definition of what it is doesn't seem very sound.

The universe is a finite and therefore measurable space which seems to be becoming less mysterious as the years go by. Astronomers can place a lower limit to the age of the universe by studying globular clusters. If the universe is flat and composed mostly of matter, then the age of the universe is 2/(3 Ho) where Ho is the value of the Hubble constant. If the universe has a very low density of matter, then its extrapolated age is larger: 1/Ho, This would put the age at about 12-14 billion years.

I don't know if creation is the right word for all of those definitions. It sure makes it confusing when someone asks "Do you believe in creation?"
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True I agree that given the overwhelming pressure to conform to society it does sound different to say do you believe in creation.  But also very natural, obviously things are created and to referred to the creator as creation seems ok.  Given no one has ever met god face to face and we people like to idolize and create a deity more powerful then us in the likeness of man.  But we all tend to come up with our own vision and I hope yours helps you live a more fulfilling life.

Also the Universe is said to be much older then the Hubble constant which does not take into consideration the gaseos and etheric states of matter.  The oldest matter is likely that old but that's becuase it has not broken down yet.  The Universe itself is believed to be much older, closer to 96 billion years however the oldest exhisting physical matter is said to be accurate to what our scientist believe based on the testing of only exhisting pysical matter.





kurtykurt42

Quote from: jpmohave on July 30, 2009, 12:58:34
The Universe itself is believed to be much older, closer to 96 billion years however the oldest exhisting physical matter is said to be accurate to what our scientist believe based on the testing of only exhisting pysical matter.

Believed by who? I guess for us to know for sure we would have to open up a wormhole into other dimensions and send out interdimensional Hubble telescopes to accurately gauge the age of the universe. I agree that it may be much older then 13.7 billion years because they don't take into account the other 7, 11, 12 or however many dimensions there are.


Quote from: jpmohave on July 30, 2009, 12:58:34
Given no one has ever met god face to face and we people like to idolize and create a deity more powerful then us in the likeness of man.

How can you be certain that no one has ever met god?





jpmohave

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That's a good point, I can only be certain that I have never met god.

The fact we are on this site though we all realize something.  We all realize there is more to life then what we have bee originally taught.

Imagine a dolphin that has lost his sonar?  Most people have lost their PSI - the PSI has abilities that we all know here that go beyond the physical universe.  That being said we can easily understand that the Universe has other facets older then the physical especially when you realize you can create matter in the astral with your creative faculty.  It is said the matter you create in the astral will manifest into the physical.  That being said everything here on earth was first created in the astral in thought.  So if you believe that then you must know the thought energy was created by a creative faculty prior to the physical world manifestation.

Some spirit teachers (spirits) have referred to creation or god as the "Infinite Omnipresence" and said this entire universe was created by the great spirits thought.  Just as we can create a simple flower or cup in the astral with our creative faculty, the great spirit (creation/god) has created all physical matter with his/her/its/creations creative faculty.  This entire universe could be nothing more then an unimaginable thought.  It is said we must rejoin god/creation once we perfect ourselves and advance our concsiousness.  I've also heard we human beings are creation - meaning we are the expression of creation in the physical universe to learn love and as we evolve in consciousness and value/love/ etc. creation itself is also evolving. 

I think this may be what Jesus meant when he said I and the father are one.  That all of us are one in the same.

kurtykurt42

Quote from: jpmohave on July 31, 2009, 09:18:36

I think this may be what Jesus meant when he said I and the father are one.  That all of us are one in the same.

I agree with that, and most of what you said but how do I gain more Consciousness!? :-)

jpmohave

The Essense of course is meditation - not sitting like a monk but learn to control your thoughts and direct the Universal Energy consciously through controlled visualization.

I actually found that Binuaral Audio Technology helps greatly.  It uses sound beats to promote your brain to create its own counterwave and develops new more efficient neuropathways.  Though expenive Centerpointe has a great program.  I also think the Monroe Institute has some great CD's but a real basic one that I have used to induce the 3rd eye state, OBE,Astral Projection, whatever youw ant to call it is a cost effective CD made by www.immrama.org -

These are not necessary but they help your meditation greatly.  you wil need stereo headphones though but everyone has an ipod now days right?

I would also suggest getting the Talmud Jmmanuel book and read it.  you 'll learn the real teachings of consciousness from one of the greatest masters of all time "Jmmanuel" (jesus christ) but unrevised.

kurtykurt42

I have tried all of the "Binaural Audio Technology" and I personally believe it's a gimmick.

Electronic music such as trance/dance/house/techno has a much better effect for me personally than any of the binaural beats, and it's free

Quote from: jpmohave on August 06, 2009, 08:23:53
 It uses sound beats to promote your brain to create its own counterwave and develops new more efficient neuropathways.  Though expenive Centerpointe has a great program.  I also think the Monroe Institute has some great CD's but a real basic one that I have used to induce the 3rd eye state, OBE,Astral Projection, whatever youw ant to call it is a cost effective CD made by www.immrama.org

Sounds like something someone would say that works for them...  :|

phxsun

If improved consciousness is what we all want then would it not be possible for us to somehow bring our consciousness together to raise all of us to a higher level?

kurtykurt42

Maybe that's what 2012 is all about.

Technology allows us all to come together, linking everyone together.

Perhaps, soon we will all come together and set a date to all participate in raising our consciousness to another level.