I've cam to suck your blooaad ! !

[Risu no Kairu]

Well, from what I've heard, vampires suck energy. Some people will run around and claim to be vampires and that vampires aren't bad, but I think those are just people who like to share energy.

Succubi/Incubi are sexual negs. They thrive on sexual energy, and that's why they make you orgasm.

I hear that astral sex can be dangerous if you do with a stranger, because it's your soul merging with another.

I've never experience any of these things, though.

[SiN]

When you say closet astral projectors, do you mean that literally? 'Cause I've had this reoccurring dreams/nightmare since I was 6 and it's always about the same closet...that's either sucking me in, asking me to go in, or it's just in the background of my dream.

As for the succubus/incubus... I don't know... all I know is that with most of my Sleep Paralysis attacks last  year, I had orgasms (and I mostly saw a dark figure looming over me...) and I read from books and online sites that it was because of an Incubus, but I'm not sure.

I read that you can have astral sex, but if that's all you plan to do, then you'll just stay in the lower levels when you astral project. Like attracts like, so you'll mostly encounter people and beings who think the same. I don't think there's any harm with having astral sex with someone you truly love (whom, of course, can astral project too).

Oh, and the sex itself is very quick, so you'd orgasm quickly as well (and your physical body might possibly do the same.) And, if you do orgasm, you'll loose control over your astral body and return to your physical.

I haven't read anything that talks about both astral sex and SP, but I think that the two could be closely related. In that, I mean, SP attacks occur when you are unconsciously trying to project (not entirely sure) and, well don't, so possibly a neg could influence you and WHAM you orgasm.

If you want more info. I suggest reading Robert Bruce's article on Astral Sex. Here's a link:

http://www.astraldynamics.com/articles/robert/articles_3.htm

Risu no Kairu: Hmm... I never heard about that (about the soul merging thing). Where did you hear about this?

Anyone feel free to correct me.

[Risu no Kairu]

Here's a big vampire topic from a while back: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=866

Sorry, I don't remember where I heard that about the astral sex. It must be something I gathered from various tidbits I've heard here and there.

[What Tha Phak]

Actually, SiN, I mean closet as a figure of speech.  Like you know how people say "Oh yeah that guy's gay, but he hasn't come out of the closet yet."  Meaning closet people do whatever, secretly.

So are there any astral vampires in here?

[Parmenion]

There are many many vampires existing today, but not in the traditional sense of the word. There may be vampires who need to suck blood to live , i just havent come across any.Quite alot of strange people convince themselves that they are vampires though and go around cutting and drinking blood.This is often sexuall and allways (to my knowledge) un-neccessary.

Now to energy vampires, the 'real' vampires as i see it.These people drain energy from un-suspecting 'victims' to supply themselves.I consider there to be two classes of energy vampires. Those who do it just because they can and those who do it because they have to.The first type can be put on a par with the 'vampires' who drink blood. They do it to feel like a vampire and really have no need to do so. The second type are those who consume so much energy that they cannot provide enough by themselves.These people usually exell at certain aspects of physicall prowess and are far more powerfull than the average person.This comes at a price though.They cannot provide enough energy to support their abilities on their own so thay must steal it from others.I see this much like the heroin addict, hurting people they have never met before just because they have to, to feed their habit, their hunger.


Parmenion

[SiN]

quote:Actually, SiN, I mean closet as a figure of speech. Like you know how people say "Oh yeah that guy's gay, but he hasn't come out of the closet yet." Meaning closet people do whatever, secretly.

Yea...I realised that's what you meant after I read some of the 'vampire posts'. I never knew there were such thing as psi vampires or that there could be people (and not bad entities) who take energy from other people. So, I've learned something new, thanks to your question ^_^.


I wonder, though, how often does this happen..? and how you can tell the difference between a psi vampire or a spirit that's clinging to you (etc.) that's been stealing your energy...

[Risu no Kairu]

Well, in a sense, they're both vampires. They're draining your energy without your permission. You can handle them the same using the same counter measures,  I suppose. But, with the guy in a body, you can always use a baseball bat.

[What Tha Phak]

So are vampires like real people that use some sort of mind power to consume energy at waking state (like I am right now) OR are they really astral projectors making them invisible to the untrained eye and draining energy from in the real-time-zone?  What benefit do other individuals' energy have on vampires?

[Risu no Kairu]

Well, they can be both.

[What Tha Phak]

Then what benefits (or disadvantages) come from being a "vampire?"  I guess this leads to the conclusion that is the case for as long as the "vampire" meaning ever existed... Is this the truth?

Does draining energy from other human sources add up some sort of massive power or something? Is it possible for one to become physically stronger, or 'greatly more potentialy capable, from accumulated energy?'

You know, Dragonball Z is like a really exaggerated version of this whole energy idea.  Despite all the agruments in the Energy Development section, I think DBZ definately needs some credit.  After all, they have always stated real methods of energy raising and "psi ball" techniques, with also telekinasis and clairvoyant action scenes.

I personally have never witnessed telekinesis or the like up close, nor on TV, but definately hear a LOT about it.

Try to picture all the energy gathered up from thousands of thousands of planets and all life forms of them.... That would be an unfathomably massive and uncomprehendable total of energy!  Kind of like Majin Buu and from his 'quest of destruction.'  That would be awesome to see a sick anime--sort of like DBZ--but based on the "astral" or something.

[What Tha Phak]

No one answered my question yet!

quote:Then what benefits (or disadvantages) come from being a "vampire?" I guess this leads to the conclusion that is the case for as long as the "vampire" meaning ever existed... Is this the truth?

Does draining energy from other human sources add up some sort of massive power or something? Is it possible for one to become physically stronger, or 'greatly more potentialy capable, from accumulated energy?'

[What Tha Phak]

come on people, is there no one here that can answer my questions or what??  Does anyone know of any forum webpages such as this one that is mainly occult/metaphysical topics and has quite an exceptional amount of people joined?

[monicat777]

Phak,  Those are really tough questions to answer. As far as the physically stronger thing goes...I think meditation and energy raising can achieve that.  I don't understand WHY one would need to suck someone else's energy for that. The only reason I can think of is maybe for use with negative 'magick'. Otherwise, It has to be just for a power trip you know? Lot's of people walk through life making other people feel like excrement to make themselves feel better. They don't really gain any"thing" except a false sense of security and power. I suppose the same could be true on a psychic level as well. So I only think they gain short-term power for negative 'magick'. And in return they would get a lot of bad 'karma'.(let's try to avoid another karma discussion!lol) I don't really know anything about vampires but I know about a lot of other stuff. These are the only things I can come up with.  Maybe someone else has a more informed point of view. Hopefully, my thoughts on this helped in some way to explore your questions.

[Mirador]

Here, in the Island of Hispaniola, the closest thing that approaches the concept of 'vampire' is an old women, who could be somebody's grandmother, who having the ability to turn into an animal will 'suck the blood' of a newborn or young child. People here use red or black beads or ribbons to protect young children from these 'witches'. However, in a community most people will tell you who are the 'witches' but they would do nothing to get rid of them, unless they're caught in the act, and then they are killed.
Then, there's another concept, for example, a cousin of mine told me that one of her twin girls was 'feeding' on the other twin, and because of this she was weak and sickly. I had her send me the 'sick' twin to my hut compound for 'strengthening'.  The child is strong now and her twin cannot 'feed' on her no more.

[Goldenshadow]

Perhaps its better to think of a vampire as an archetype. We all vamp at one time or another, for the most part unaware of it. If you take more energy then you give...that is vampirism.

[What Tha Phak]

So what is the Occult truth behind vampires, anyway?  I've skipped through Konstantinos book "Vampires" or something like that and quickly scanned through articles about the topic.  Are they really closet astral projectors that drain energy from unsuspecting people?  

What are Succubus'/Succubi?  Does anyone think they exist?  

How about mental/astral sex? This is such a cool topic.... [8D]