I'M IN BIG TROUBLE!

[Mark614]

I've astral projected many many many times. More times then I can count. I pretty much 90% of the time have an astral projection if I am laying on my back and haven't eating anything. I've found it extremely hard to project while under the influence of alcohol. Anyways, I'd like to share my experiences because I have seen MANY SIMILIAR experiences to mine in various different forums and to be honest I need serious help. When I first started, I was not scared at all and would have fun flying around, exploring around my neighborhood or my house.

That all changed when I realised I wasn't alone. I learned inadverntly learned how to project when I was 17 years old. I was locked up for some stupid thing I did as a kid. This place was a juvenille boarding school type thing for troubled and disturbed kids. Anyway being in a room with two other people you didn't know, you always wanted to be the last one asleep. I didn't really figure out that I was projecting until I was about 18 or 19. I initially thought I had some kind of medical disorder and that I was dying in my sleep. Anyway this is going to be long so bare with me. I never had any religous beliefs, and I thought out of body experiences were a complete joke.

Boy was I wrong! I'm 24 now and I feel like an out of  body veteran. I realized there was "something" else out there slowly over time. At first, I chalked it up to my own imagination. I'd see people standing over my bed, or for lack of a better word horrible "monsters". This terrified me of projecting and many times I just wanted to go to sleep for normal. I became extremely annoyed that I couldn't sleep like I used to and wished I had never projected. Regardless of that, I believe that projecting is a wonderful thing and has made me a better and more wise person then I ever could be if I didn't project. I know for a 100% fact that there is life after death and that comforts me. What doesn't comfort me is where I might be going when I die.

Once two entities pulled me out of my body. I was horribly disfigured and in VERY intense pain, worse then anything I have ever felt in my life. These entities stood me up and had such horrible faces I could not bare to look at them. I did glance at both of them for a split second and I gathered that if I would have looked in their eyes for a second longer I would have woke up completely insane. It sounds crazy but here me out. When I looked in their eyes, I immediately could see there were actual "scenes" or "places" they could project on me. Like they could place me in an astral "cage" for lack of a better word with complete control of the scenery and images. I immediately tried to escape. I thought about going to another place in my town, and they started laughing INSANELY. I then felt something moving by my back. One of them allowed me to reach my right arm behind my back and I felt two stubs flapping where wings would have been. I then willed myself to wake up and immediately got a message that "my thoughts are my wings".

If that makes any sense. Anyway thats only the beginning, there were encounters before this, but nothing as vivid and horrible as this. I still believed that maybe I'm just imagining things and that demons or evil spirits weren't real. The frequency of the attacks increased. Before I would lay down to project or sleep, faces would appear right in my face, or just eyes. People or creatures would be standing right over my bed! One time I saw a set of blue glowing eyes right before I was about to project . I locked eyes with it in an attempt to confront it and immediately I was out of my body and the creature materialized right over me and started "pulling me" through my ceiling with it.It was all black with blue glowing eyes. Alarmed I immediately willed myself to wake up.

Another time I projected and I had entities that looked like they were half there and half not there running at me yelling "go back in your body" "your not allowed to do this". Other times I would be on a normal projection only to be paralyzed right wherever I was or thrown up against walls in my house. INTENSE PAIN worse then burning, feeling like I'm being eaten alive accompanyed a great deal of these projections. Not being able to move is another constant. Disturbed heart rhythms are frequent. A few projections I was literally stuck out of my body way longer then I wanted to be and thought I was dead and in hell. Attempts to run away, fly away and fight them are completely fruitless. The only thing that seems to work to some degree is yelling for god or jesus to help. That will usually wake me up if I can't get back.

Other times I see them I will yell at them to leave my house in jesus's name. Even more disturbing still is the apparent astral cage situation where the project scenes and images and places on to me. I was able to fight this off after not accepting it as real, only to be stuck in blackness and presented with another scene. These scenes would be of the worst kind. The worst monsters, homosexuality, rape, just the worst things imaginable. Things I would rather not get into. The process would repeat itself until I woke up and went back to sleep normally. Even more disturbing is when I get lucid in the middle of a dream. The "people" in my dreams will frequently tell me that this is not a dream and I am indeed awake. I literally have to argue with them that I am asleep and I know I am dreaming. They will go to any length to prove that I am awake including changing shapes into another person and changing the scene of the environment.

Many times I have thought I willed myself awake to get out of a bad situation only to realise I was dreaming moments after! This process has repeated itself as many as 20 times of a half hour before I finally woke up! While projecting I have encountered people from my real life and had to run away because I felt like I was losing conciousness and wouldn't be lucid anymore. I've had feelings of being eaten and have became lucid in the middle of this.The entities rarely talk to me and I get the feeling like they don't want me to know they even exist. When they do talk to me it is usually trying to convince me I am awake, or that I shouldn't be projecting. That they are going to harm me and my family, or they are going to make my life a living hell.

I never believed they were real. I challenged them to prove they were real which was extremely dumb of me. After I made the challenge I had dreams of minor future things happening that came true. Things that would never matter,except to show me they were real. They started speaking to me through my friends and people I know. Things in my house have been getting knocked over. I am a normal dude in my mid twenties and I have people over and we drink heavily on some occasions. One night I had placed a bunch of cans on the counter. Well the cans fell over and I thought nothing of it. Then some more cans fell over and I thought that it was a little weird. Well to make a long story short, all the cans and bottles ended up on the floor. All my friends were totally freaked out. My other friend claims to have seen a female entity in the house. I have seen a bunch of female entities in my dreams but they are mostly male. Mind you, I never told anybody about this for fear of my friends thinking I was insane.

 Anyway I had a girlfriend last year. On new years eve she got completely wasted, so I put her to bed. While when I put her to bed she started mumbling incoherently like most drunk people do. She stated there were 3 of us in the room. Alarmed and knowing my situation I said who is the third person and she mumbled a name but I could not make it out. She mumbled a bunch of other nonsense as well. I told her about it the next day and of course she had no recollection. I shrugged it off as drunkeness until some months later I was hanging out with my good friend. I never told him about this situation either. We drank a heavy amount, but I was clearly more sober then him and he could have swore there was three of us there. I assured him there was no third person, we had been hanging out quite some time. He repeatedly stated there was three of us there and that it was a female. Disturbed and thinking about my GF from a few month earlier and all that had been happening I was shaken.

I shrugged it off yet again until it happened again. Same friend, convinced a third person, female was there after drinking a heavy amount. Had no recollection either time. He did it one more time last week after drinking a heavy amount at my house. It should be noted the previous 2 times we were not at my house. And that in these situatons I had drank less then the people in question and had witnessed them drink themselves into oblivion. Thats not all, my dad seems to know something about all of this and has a bad drinking problem as well. Sometimes when I try to talk to him about my experiences he will totally claim that out of body experiences are all nonsense. Othertimes he will go on a kind of prophetic rambling about things that are going to happen and will just get weird and start talking about aliens, astral projection, demons and the devil. He makes little sense most of the time and almost seems like through his drunkeness he has become a puppet for a puppeteer. He seems like two different people and even his friends are noticing. Alcohol is obviously a player, but alcohol opens doors in itself...There has been so much more besides this, including the negative entities telling me to go places and witness specific small events. Like showing me a bear swimming across a river then a clock. Then I go outside and see the bear swimming across the river at the time specified. Stuff that would never benefit me in any way, except to prove their existance. Anyway this is turning into a book, and I seriously might write one.

[Rusty]

Holy cow!

[T.L.]

    I really wish I could help you in regards to the entities you are experiencing, but I am not religious in anyway. Which is why my experiences are not coloured by beliefs like that, thankfully. One thing people rarely ever talk about is becoming too centralized in regards to the non-physical. Great care must be taken to stay grounded, for every non-physical thing you do... you should also focus on physical activities. If you become too involved in the non-physical you can become unhinged from the physical (for the lack of a better term). It takes a strong will, and mental faculties to not become confused as to what reality is. In one or two of my projections I knew my physical state perfectly. I knew my physical body lay in bed, even what time it was in the physical. Yet even with that knowledge I was severely confused as to which reality was more real. Was the physical but a dream that while you experience seems to take forever but once over feels like only a brief moment? Was where I was in the non-physical my true state... perhaps both were just as real...Was I only dreaming I was living a physical life, maybe I was not really living a physical life...just an extended dream. It doesn't seem like much but while you experience this kind of confusion it makes you feel as though you will lose your mind, in some cases it may feel as though you already have. That's why it is important to keep yourself focused just as equally on physical activities. Otherwise I have no doubt some people will just lose it.

[CFTraveler]

Dear Mark:
I honestly didn't read your post- it was too hard without breaks.
So I'll leave you this and hope it's of some use to you.
If you need more info there are more links.
http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutorials/psychic-defense/basic-psychic-countermeasures.html

[Tiny]

The problem is that alcohol generally causes people to lower their shields, opening doors for other entities to manage to take posession of a chakra or worse.

There has to be a reason so many dark beings are following you, I see many possibilities as a cause, a lot of karma, a house laden with negative energies etc.

Calling out for the Light or Jesus Christ is definatly something recommended!
The best way to solve a problem is always to let the higher-self manage it and accept it's guidance.

[Mark614]

The problem is that alcohol generally causes people to lower their shields, opening doors for other entities to manage to take posession of a chakra or worse.

There has to be a reason so many dark beings are following you, I see many possibilities as a cause, a lot of karma, a house laden with negative energies etc.

Calling out for the Light or Jesus Christ is definatly something recommended!
The best way to solve a problem is always to let the higher-self manage it and accept it's guidance.

I agree, Alcohol is a key player, however I don't consider myself as heavy as a drinker as most of the people I surround myself with and tend to only drink in moderation. Sometimes I will resort to drinking heavily if I had a bad experience the night before and sometimes I can feel a bad experience coming before I go to sleep so I will drink in order to avoid the experiences which is not good. I don't know why they are following me, I haven't been the greatest person in the world.

CFT Traveler- I know it was long, and rambling but I guess without it being that long, people wouldn't get the gist of what I am experiencing. This post could literally be 100,000 words longer.

T.L- I was never religous at all, until I started having these experiences. The experiences got me reading the bible, various other religous books and books on astral projection. I am very aware that I am laying on my bed in these projections. Sometimes it appears like I am being tricked by the entities into thinking I am awake, thats all.  In my physical life all is normal, except for the obvious signs were the entity wants me to know it is real. I have never seen it in the physical except for knocking things over, and strange noises. Or it will seemly make very omnious statements through people I know, especially when they are under the influence of alcohol/drugs.

[Mark614]

I should note out yet another constant. When I try to call out to God or Jesus sometimes I find it extremely hard to talk or open my mouth. When I do open my mouth, my voice sounds VERY distorted and almost inhuman like. its kind of like I'm screaming underwater?

[Mark614]

Here are a few more things I left out, as I am wondering if anybody has had any similiar experiences as me. I have become lucid in more then several "nightmares". During these "nightmares" when I became lucid I would often question myself how was I sleeping when literally days or weeks had gone by in my "nightmare". It seemed almost impossible that I was asleep during these. At which point people in my dreams would argue it was impossible I was sleeping. I could literally feel memories of days and weeks being "implanted" for lack of a better word. Sometimes memories would be "implanted" to be used in a later dream to convince me I was awake. Almost everytime these would be "nightmares".

[CFTraveler]

The thing is that the 'memories' are not necessarily implanted.
A few things- in the astral, time works differently than in the physical- so it is possible that a very long time has indeed passed while you're in the astral.  You are indeed awake and experiencing whatever is going on- but not with your physical brain, with your astral body.  So when you wake up and your memories are downloaded, it seems impossible that all that time passed.  If you know something about AM and FM, you'll see that a lot can be modulated into a simple wave, and chances are that's how the astral memories are stored in your brain- so it's not that 'someone' is trying to 'fool you' into thinking that you're awake- your mind is, not necessarily your body- and the experiences have most probably happened before, so that when you're back in the astral environment, you have access to these memories that 'slip away' as you wake.
I will go back and read your first post, because I think there are many elements in your experience that don't have to be negative.

[CFTraveler]

I've astral projected many many many times. More times then I can count. I pretty much 90% of the time have an astral projection if I am laying on my back and haven't eating anything. I've found it extremely hard to project while under the influence of alcohol. Anyways, I'd like to share my experiences because I have seen MANY SIMILIAR experiences to mine in various different forums and to be honest I need serious help. When I first started, I was not scared at all and would have fun flying around, exploring around my neighborhood or my house. That all changed when I realised I wasn't alone. I learned inadverntly learned how to project when I was 17 years old. I was locked up for some stupid thing I did as a kid. This place was a juvenille boarding school type thing for troubled and disturbed kids. Anyway being in a room with two other people you didn't know, you always wanted to be the last one asleep. I didn't really figure out that I was projecting until I was about 18 or 19.

Of course.  In trying to be the last one to go to sleep, you learned to get to the liminal state- body asleep and mind awake.

I initially thought I had some kind of medical disorder and that I was dying in my sleep. Anyway this is going to be long so bare with me. I never had any religous beliefs, and I thought out of body experiences were a complete joke.

Frankly, religious beliefs have nothing to do with OBEs- the astral is an energetic environment and you project into it whatever you believe, expect or remember.  The way you interpret is where religion comes in, IMO.

Boy was I wrong! I'm 24 now and I feel like an out of  body veteran. I realized there was "something" else out there slowly over time. At first, I chalked it up to my own imagination. I'd see people standing over my bed, or for lack of a better word horrible "monsters". This terrified me of projecting and many times I just wanted to go to sleep for normal. I became extremely annoyed that I couldn't sleep like I used to and wished I had never projected. Regardless of that, I believe that projecting is a wonderful thing and has made me a better and more wise person then I ever could be if I didn't project. I know for a 100% fact that there is life after death and that comforts me. What doesn't comfort me is where I might be going when I die.

That's what I'm talking about.  When you project, there are other projectors out there too.  Also, when you're halfway projected, you can have a feedback loop- when you are very close to your body your fears give your own energy body shape- and you experience this 'scary' aspect of yourself- and the feedback continues until you have completely separated, or your body wakes up.  So chances are, the people you see are either other people who are projected and dreaming, or your own aspects.  There is also the 'dweller on the threshold' phenomenon, which is simply there to protect you from going to a level you're not ready for-and the Dweller doesn't care about scaring you silly, because it's job is not to make you comfortable, it's to keep you from going somewhere specific.

Once two entities pulled me out of my body. I was horribly disfigured and in VERY intense pain, worse then anything I have ever felt in my life. These entities stood me up and had such horrible faces I could not bare to look at them. I did glance at both of them for a split second and I gathered that if I would have looked in their eyes for a second longer I would have woke up completely insane. It sounds crazy but here me out. When I looked in their eyes, I immediately could see there were actual "scenes" or "places" they could project on me. Like they could place me in an astral "cage" for lack of a better word with complete control of the scenery and images. I immediately tried to escape. I thought about going to another place in my town, and they started laughing INSANELY. I then felt something moving by my back. One of them allowed me to reach my right arm behind my back and I felt two stubs flapping where wings would have been. I then willed myself to wake up and immediately got a message that "my thoughts are my wings". If that makes any sense.

It makes perfect sense to me, because I have gone through similar dreamstate initiations.  This is to get you to overcome your fear.  When you finally do, and realize that no one can really hurt you, and you can stop this at any time, the 'scary' figures transform and your real lessons can begin.

Anyway thats only the beginning, there were encounters before this, but nothing as vivid and horrible as this. I still believed that maybe I'm just imagining things and that demons or evil spirits weren't real. The frequency of the attacks increased. Before I would lay down to project or sleep, faces would appear right in my face, or just eyes. People or creatures would be standing right over my bed! One time I saw a set of blue glowing eyes right before I was about to project . I locked eyes with it in an attempt to confront it and immediately I was out of my body and the creature materialized right over me and started "pulling me" through my ceiling with it.It was all black with blue glowing eyes. Alarmed I immediately willed myself to wake up. Another time I projected and I had entities that looked like they were half there and half not there running at me yelling "go back in your body" "your not allowed to do this".

That's a Dweller, classic, actually.

Other times I would be on a normal projection only to be paralyzed right wherever I was or thrown up against walls in my house. INTENSE PAIN worse then burning, feeling like I'm being eaten alive accompanyed a great deal of these projections. Not being able to move is another constant.

These are failed projections.  How I stopped them was to learn to do energy work (most specifically 'sponging') and overcame the fear.

Disturbed heart rhythms are frequent.

Those are heart chakra effects.  The heart chakra is stimulated and helps produce your projectable double.  It's not something to be worried about, unless you can have someone check your pulse.  Chances are it's not your actual heart.

A few projections I was literally stuck out of my body way longer then I wanted to be and thought I was dead and in hell. Attempts to run away, fly away and fight them are completely fruitless. The only thing that seems to work to some degree is yelling for god or jesus to help. That will usually wake me up if I can't get back.

Even though calling for help is always helpful, you have to realize you have projected your beliefs into your experience, and will not get any better until you realize that you are causing this yourself, not by it being 'your imagination', but by creating the actual critters that are accosting you, and feeding the ones that actually exist there in the lower subplanes by giving them your belief and your fear.

And definitely stop drinking, it's not helping you any.

[Mark614]

CFTTraveler,

First off I would like to thank you for reading that long rambling post and I would also like to thank anybody else that read it and gave their respective advice as well. It is important to note that I had no religous beliefs prior to this, no beliefs in oobes or anything. When I died I thought it would be over, just nothingness. What I saw during the projections are what influenced the beliefs, not the other way around. I started reading various religous,message board and mythical things that matched up to thing I had seen out of body, thats all. There are many passages relating to OOBE in the bible. Anything that has to do with OOBE I am willing to read, because I want to know what is happening to me out there. I don't necessarily buy into the dweller thing and the fear thing either. I feel like the fear is being projected at me by the entities, not coming from me. I conciously know there is nothing to be afraid of when I am OOBEing. I know that I am out of body and therefore I am a "spirit" and can't be "killed". I wake up everytime from it so I know I can get back, although sometimes I have my doubts that I may have died. For the most part, I feel the fear coming from the entities, almost like a telepathic message. I literally feel pain,scenes of places, fear and negative emotions being projecting ONTO ME. Even neutral/successful projections seemed like I was just an animal in a zoo seeing what I would do without interference. I feel like a fish in a fishbowl most of the time. How do you truly know CFT, that your experiences are not happening in a negative entitys astral fishbowl that they created for you to swim around in? When somebody tells you a story in the physical, don't you get a vague vision in your head of the events that transpired? People are very capable of placing eachother in "fishbowls" with storys, what makes you think a nonphysical entity cant.

[Xanth]

Ok, dude... paragraphs, please learn to use them.
I whole heartedly tried to read your original post, but couldn't.
I promise I'm not trying to be mean or anything. 
I just want you to get your explanation across a lot clearer. 

[CFTraveler]

CFTTraveler,

First off I would like to thank you for reading that long rambling post and I would also like to thank anybody else that read it and gave their respective advice as well. It is important to note that I had no religous beliefs prior to this, no beliefs in oobes or anything. When I died I thought it would be over, just nothingness. What I saw during the projections are what influenced the beliefs, not the other way around.

Unfortunately the beliefs you inform to your projection don't come from your thinking conscious mind, they come from your subconscious.  Regardless of the beliefs you have or not, you are exposed to 'heaven->sin-> hell=victim mentality regardless of whether you buy into it or not.  So even if you never set foot in a church, temple or mosque, whatever the cultural beliefs that are in your environment will be in your subconscious.  If you have ever read a scary story, or watch a scary movie it doesn't matter if you believe it or not, the images and the beliefs that spawned them are firmly implanted.

I started reading various religous,message board and mythical things that matched up to thing I had seen out of body, thats all. There are many passages relating to OOBE in the bible.

Being a fairly religious person myself, I am aware of the many instances of OBE action in the bible, both in the OT and NT, and in it you will see that the people being transported are prophets of the Lord who are sent to heaven (or one of the many heavens, a la Swedenborg), not the other way around.

The fears of demons abducting you and tormenting you come from much later, in the dark ages, with works like Dante's Divine Comedy, and don't come from the bible.

I feel like the fear is being projected at me by the entities, not coming from me.

Then I can't help you.

I feel the fear coming from the entities, almost like a telepathic message. I literally feel pain,scenes of places, fear and negative emotions being projecting ONTO ME. Even neutral/successful projections seemed like I was just an animal in a zoo seeing what I would do without interference. I feel like a fish in a fishbowl most of the time. How do you truly know CFT, that your experiences are not happening in a negative entitys astral fishbowl that they created for you to swim around in?

Because I have tested the theories, as I explained earlier.  I have been abducted, scared, and tested in more ways you can imagine.  But it was only when I decided to stop being afraid, it was only when I realized that I can't be hurt, and confronted these entities, that was when the experiences changed in tenor.  And once I was no longer afraid, I was able to see they were only a test, and a test that must be passed if you really want to see what's out there.  If you're not, you're not.
ps. I have been also in the presence of negative entities, and have come to know how to differentiate the real neg from the dweller as feedback energy phenomenon.  It has been tested, and I know how to differentiate it.
But if you are going to assume you are a prisoner in someone else's environment, you will never really get over it, so in this case you should stop trying to project, because these lessons will not stop until you take a different attitude.

When somebody tells you a story in the physical, don't you get a vague vision in your head of the events that transpired? People are very capable of placing eachother in "fishbowls" with storys, what makes you think a nonphysical entity cant.

It's simple, and you can get the answer to this in any sacred literature, including the Bible.  Because God made us capable of existing in many different environments.  We have the divine power.

[Panthau]

Just wanted to mention, this is really unreadable - and i normaly read threads always to the end.

[irishmyste]

Mark614, in regards to the negativity you feel comes from the entities, have you tried creating a forcefield of light around you..like a bubble as soon as you exit?  As our thoughts help to create our experience then it stands to reason that you can protect your astral self by a shield of some sort.  Or throw a ball of light at them and they will disappear..?  Won't hurt to try.

[Mark614]

There I used paragraphs so its easier to read sorry about that guys

[Xanth]

There I used paragraphs so its easier to read sorry about that guys

Thanks for making it a bit easier to read. 

Anyways... you talk a lot about "feeling pain" and things like that.
You do realize that you're causing this pain yourself, right?  You're causing it because you're expecting whatever is happening to you to hurt.

In the etheric/astral state you have nothing on you capable of creating pain except your own mind.

Do note though that nobody can "pull" or "help" you out of your body.  Especially not two random entities... your subconscious simply won't allow it.  If this were the case, there would be random people all over the world randomly getting yanked out.  This doesn't happen.

I'm inclined also to agree 100% with everything CFTraveler posted back on Aug31st. 

Oh and thanks again for cleaning up the original post.

[recoverer]

Mark614:

I'm not certain how this will work for you, but I'll say what worked for me.

I've had a number of OBEs where an unfriendly being tried to harm me.

-At first I'd start singing something such as "I love Christ" and the entity would go away.

-Things progressed so I would stand up to it, and the OBE would come to an end.

It became clear to me that these experiences were created by my higher self/spirit guidance in order to help me get over my fear of unfriendly spirits.

I had one experience where I realized I was taking part in a training experience, and I said, "Okay, I know this is a learning experience, so please bring it to an end," and the experience came to an end.

I don't mean to suggest that unfriendly beings never mess with people, but through a multitude of nonphysical experiences, spirit messages received and just thinking about it, it became clear to me that we don't have to be afraid of unfriendly beings because it is always up to us to choose love and light.

There is only one occasion when I felt pain during such an experience. I felt something grab onto my back and hold on to it in a way that hurt. I felt this was an alien presence. Before I knew it, I was very far away from this planet some place in space. This alien took me to a dance and continued to hold me in a way that hurt. I told it, "I'm committed to God, love and the happiness of all beings, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it." After saying this, the experience immediately came to an end. I figure my guidance created this experience, because why in the heck would an unfriendly alien take me to a dance?

Several years ago I had an experience that seemed genuine. I was meditating, and suddenly I saw the face of a man that looked unfriendly. I felt his energy merge with mine and his energy felt really dark. The energy level I felt doubled partly because of his energy, partly because my awakened kundalini fired up some more, and perhaps, partly because my higher self gave me an energy boost. I told this invading spirit that I'm committed to God, love and the happiness of all beings, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it, I tuned into love and my inner self as best as I could, and after about 30 seconds the spirit went away.

There was one occasion when I saw a being looking at me with a very unfriendly look. I wasn't in a good mood, and I returned his unfriendly look. He became (he?) angrier, started to move towards me, I realized the mistake of buying into his anger trip, sent love to him, and he went away.

There have been a few occasions when an unfriendly spirit said it was going to kill me. I told such spirits they aren't capable of doing so, didn't feel fear, sent them love, and here I am writing on this forum, so I guess they were just bluffing--trying to scare me.

I've seen a number of creepy faces. Just Halloween masks as far as I'm concerned. I believe unfriendly spirits project such imagery because they try to gain the upper hand by scarring us. If we don't buy into their attempt to intimidate, we don't give them the power they seek. It isn't as if spirit beings actually look like something you would see in a Hollywood horror movie: fangs, creepy looking eyes, scars and such. If a being looked in such a way without meaning to look in such a way, this suggests that it has a lack of self control. It if it can't control itself, how will it control another?

[Mark614]

I agree with everything your saying recoverer, and I agree mostly with everything everybody else is saying. HOWEVER, this is not limited to just us people that know how to OBE. I know for a fact these same beings influence people that don't know how to OBE or don't know anything about the astral. I can sense it in them constantly that they are being influenced. It seems like a war on many levels not just 1 on 1. Yes, I may be able to conquer them on a 1 on 1 level with love and asking for gods help, however my concern is mainly not only for myself, but for people that don't know about OBE and don't know of these beings.

[Mark614]

And to the people who say that it is just a "part of me" or some kind of "test. I totally disagree and would never accept the experiences I have had as a part of me because they clearly are not. To make them a part of me would drive me insane, and I would lose control and I know this for a fact.

[CFTraveler]

And to the people who say that it is just a "part of me" or some kind of "test. I totally disagree and would never accept the experiences I have had as a part of me because they clearly are not. To make them a part of me would drive me insane, and I would lose control and I know this for a fact.

'A part of me' doesn't mean the part of you that decides how you think or believe.  The opposite, in fact.

[Xanth]

'A part of me' doesn't mean the part of you that decides how you think or believe.  The opposite, in fact.

^  This...
It's not like your subconscious/higher self/whatever lets you have a choice in edgewise. 

[Mark614]

Here is a PRIME EXAMPLE of a TEST that happened to me last night.

I went to sleep with a strong intent to project. I didn't make a conscious exit, but I found myself lucid in a strange mall. In the mall I spotted a pool hall. I was very much aware of the fact that I was back sleeping on my couch this whole time. Anyway I saw three people about my age, maybe a little older playing pool. I grabbed a stick and asked if I could be the 4th person in a 2 on 2 game. So we started playing and we were clearly making impossible shots. It was quite fun actually. Anyway the people started asking me questions like, what is your name, what is the date, what location are we in. As I started to anwser the questions correctly I was led out of the poolhall through the mall. They told me the mall was in my town, and there was clearly not a mall like this in my town. I walked down a rather long flight of steps and found myself on top of a mountain with a rocky gravel path that went downward. I started walking down the path, on the path I saw an acorn and chewed on it. I did this to verify the "reality" of the experience as I always do something like this and, it was indeed a real acorn. I remember hearing the gravel as I walked on it, I looked up in the sky then I awoke on the couch. When I woke up I immediately felt like I was just in some kind of test and that the mall i walked out of was some kind of space craft or vehicle with "holographic" projections inside. The outside of the "craft" when I was walking on top of the mountain seemed more real then the inside

[kurtykurt42]

Sounds like an average dream to me, I have about 10 like it a night. Most likely you are interacting with other beings that are either dreaming or live in that dimension and in either case they are curious about who you are and where you come from.

Why would you think this is a test?

[newmethod]

@Mark.. whatever is happening I'm figuring that you are giving these beings TOO MUCH energy..

I believe there are darker beings that can attempt to influence us either by subtle or not so subtle means.. but to me that is just part of this reality we live in & in a sense I feel fortunate to be in a physical reality where things move more slowly so we can learn how to master our own energy and the choices about what energies we allow to flow in our system..

It's possibly worthy of using countermeasures/protection etc but for one I personally would attempt to let go of all fear... (it seems especially important in this case).. and focus on keeping your energy more positive and bright through all avenues such as:

• what you eat and drink
• what thoughts you are thinking
• exercise

They do sound like fairly unpleasant experiences you are having but if it was me I would have to work on letting go of the fear, taking back control and suggesting to myself that I was consciously able to counter this with higher energies such as love..

As for your dream you think is a test... well maybe you know because it is you this is happening to... but from mearly reading the details and not experiencing the dream it sounds like quite a cool dream with good lucidity 

Though the craft does make me wonder if you are having 'visitations'

Do you live in a fairly remote area?