Beginning of a possible projection?

[MrMikesName]

Hey guys, new to the forums and long time skeptic of astral projection.  At first I was excited to learn about projecting, but after a lot of failure I felt like giving up.  Anyway, on this particular night I was out of town staying with a couple girls me and my friend had met at a party.  Initially I had planned on sleeping with this girl, but due circumstances I ended up sleeping in the spare room (sad I know).  I was having a hard time going to sleep.  I tossed and turned for several hours and I eventually just laid there staring at the ceiling, thinking about projection.  I started dozing off, but this time I felt different.  I felt what some people describe as "vibrations".  At first it was subtle and I didn't pay much attention to it, but then it got to be more and more intense.  Eventually it got to the point where my whole body seemed to be vibrating and it felt good.  This is when it happened...  I remember sitting up almost (it wasn't actually like sitting up.. I just wanted to be up) and I remember looking myself right in the eyes.  My eyes were closed but I remember seeing my face as plain as day.  It was so crazy that my mind started rushing with emotions and I lost control and was sucked back into my body.  I woke up in awe, excited at what had just happened.  Right when I decided to stop caring about projection, something crazy like this happens.  I laid there for a while longer and the vibrations kept coming back, but I was too excited to get myself to come out again.

Sound like projection, or just a crazy dream?

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Oh yeah... a couple days earlier I had what I thought was a lucid dream.  I was teleporting from place to place and eventually met a woman.  She reminded me of someone I knew and I loved her before I even met her.  We didn't talk or anything, but I knew what she was thinking and I just remember loving her so much...  It was so vivid and intense that when I woke up in the morning I was depressed because I was not with her anymore.  She had with her a child that seemed broken somehow...  it was a crazy dream, or at least I think.  I passed it off as a lucid dream because I remembered EVERYTHING and it was so real that I could literally feel her heart beat.  Both times this happened I awoke feeling extremely well rested.

Please share your thoughts

[Harrif]

Hello MrMikesName!

Yeah, your experience sounds pretty much right, how it is for most people, just before exiting the body. At least for me, that's the way it usually happens. I didn't quite understand how you ended up looking yourself in the eyes.. but if I'd have to guess I'd say maybe you already projected and looked your projectable double in the eyes? Or had just an partial projection, where your consciousness projects outside your body.. anyway, if you didn't project, you sure was close to it.

I'm really glad to hear to when a skeptic gets this experience, you may be the first I've encountered myself.. having discussed of the phenomenom so many times with sceptics and they always deny it without experiencing or any first hand knowledge about it, it is just getting old. I've always said, learn it yourself first and after that deny it if you want, and I'll give your arguments much more weight after that.

Even though experiencing it, of course, doesn't make it "real" in a sense of physical reality, it does make it clear that it isn't just normal active imagination, or some blurry vision etc. It is something else, and when you get to experience it often enough, and learn to control it well enough, it just is as real as physical reality.. sometimes even more real, than 'real'.

Happy to hear that you got this experience before you gave up on this subject, hopefully your motivation and newfound 'feel' for the experience will provide you many more OBEs to come. It really can be frightening at first, but you will get used to it and learn not to be scared of the weird things which are happening once you get the experience over and over again.

Congratulations!

-Harrif

[MrMikesName]

Is it normal to feel different afterward?  I don't feel the same anymore, it's hard to explain.  Maybe it's because my life's been really crazy lately. I dunno.

[Harrif]

Hmm.. I really don't know. I suppose that if one wouldn't believe in these things.. and then had this kind of an experience, the realization that OBE is real has quite profound implications to many other things which one might not believe either. So this experience can be quite life altering. Even more belief altering. I don't remember anymore did this have this kind of effect on me when I first projected, but I always believed this to be true before I attained this state myself.. so for me it was rather a jump to ' already believe' to 'know', but no deeply rooted beliefs had to change in the process.

Of course what you feel afterward might not be based on a profound belief altering effect, but maybe on a energetic one.. I don't know if conscious OBE exit does things to your energy body, but I think you can't attain conscious OBE exit before your energy body is in a good enough condition.. or something of the like.. I know people do have spontaneous OBEs also, so I don't know how it factors in to all this.

All in all, I think a projection, especially the first one can have life altering properties in many ways.. but I'm not sure how you feel different compared to before and does it has anything to do with your OBE in this case..

-Harrif

[Xanth]

Having a Projection, etheric or astral, is a very life changing experience.
It tends to make one question life... and death too!  If you can really leave your body, do you really have a soul/spirit that can experience and live separately from your physical meat body.

Just some food for thought.

Oh and you sound like you're doing great... keep up the good work!