Alien Encounter On the Astral Plane

[kurtykurt42]

Normally I don't like to share most of my OBEs/Astral Projections/Lucid Dreams/Remote Viewings but this one was one of the most amazing I have had in a while.

Every morning I like to set my alarm to go off at 10-15 minute intervals so that I can try to astral project and get woken up by the alarm to come back and remember everything. This morning I did just that and found myself in a place with three entities focused on three balls of energy. Two of them were grey aliens and one was a tall blonde human. They were all concentrating extreme amounts of focus and thought into spherical balls of energy that was coming from their forehead (third eye). After standing there confused for a moment, the thought popped into my head that these were time bubbles that they were controlling and each had a specific purpose or 'program' to it. One of the greys had a much larger and faster bubble and was using his thoughts to put the bubble into a certain point in time and then levitated the bubble into a point in space as well.

I'm still not sure what the thought/time bubbles were programmed to do but it took a lot of focus and concentration, I knew not to interrupt them. I somehow knew that the bubbles were being placed in different points in time and then at the end, the grey lifted his bubble out of the group and it shot off far into the distance. I drew an image of what I saw, I was watching the grey for about 5 minutes and then I woke up.

[litenith]

Fascinating
What do the numbers represent? Years, I suppose? But why

[kurtykurt42]

Assuming that these energy/time bubbles were sent to earth, they would be sent to different points in time and at different locations. For example you could send a ball of healing energy to a specific hospital room on earth at a specific point in time. The ball would then stay at that point until the energy dissipated and you could cure someone of a disease five years ago, when in fact you didn't heal them for a few years in the future...

[cpt. picard]

Hmm... doesn't this bring of ethical issues of screwing with the timeline? I personally don't like the idea of aliens screwing with the timeline of events on earth, then again, if there are "many universes" i guess they couldnt but then what would be the point of going back in time to "heal" someone in one universe? Maybe these balls are actually the alien's way of manifesting physically into a UFO or something.

[kurtykurt42]

Ethics... I think maybe you have been watching a little too much Star Trek. There is more than one planet in this universe and the greys have just as much of right to a timeline as we do, if not more so. You'll realize that time and space are very similar to beings with this amount of knowledge and power. Moving through time and moving through space are therefore almost the same.

The point of healing someone is so that they don't get sick and die... I have a feeling that all beings, no matter if their greys, reptilians,  humans, etc. eventually die.

Manifesting into a UFO could be possible although, I have a feeling that is a lot easier than what I was watching them do.

[CFTraveler]

I also think that we tend to judge what is appropriate and what is not appropriate according to our human standards, and 'messing with the timeline' may be a completely alien concept (pardon the pun) to an extraterrestrial that may have a completely different understanding of 'how things are/supposed to be'.
We tend to anthropomorphize a lot.

[kurtykurt42]

I understand that these concepts are very difficult for many to accept and those that don't understand them tend to ascribe human form or attributes to them. This is most likely one of the biggest reasons why this planet has not been contacted by alien civilizations for membership into their 'galactic community'. The governments of this planet do a nice job of keeping everyone oblivious to the truth and that doesn't help the situation very much either...

[CFTraveler]

I agree.

[Greytraveller]

Hi all
To completely Avoid the messy arguments of time travel and its accompanying paradoxes (the Grandfather paradox et al) I will posit that what the aliens were doing was a form of remote viewing (RV). Apparently there are some races so advanced that they can remote view future and past events. (BTW this was rumored to have been done at the CIA RV program code named "Star Gate" as well.) The ability to accurately see the future would certainly be a VERY important ability for any advanced race of beings.

Regards 
Grey

[cpt. picard]

That would deffinitly make more sense than the aliens "healing through time" or whatever strange conclusion Kurt came to through his intuition. As for saying I've been watching too much Star Trek, that just seemed like a cheap jab and judgement based on my username, but it dosent bother me much. What I was saying is that if there is only one timeline, then aliens screwing with events on earth seems very wrong, however, if there is infinite timelines for every possible scenario, then it would seem fairly pointless to heal people in the past when those people will already be fine in several (possibly infinte) timelines. Im also not sure why youre so trusting of the "greys" when the vast majority of encounters with them describe them as negative beings. Perhaps the reason advanced civilizations and beings dont contact is a result of many peoples disregard for ethics and naive trusting of authority figures (whether our government or the greys) on earth. All i can say is i'll be assuming Project Bluebeam is responsible before i start worshipping aliens whose intentions are unknown, assuming they ever reveal themselves to us.

[kurtykurt42]

Healing through time isn't that bad of an idea... but I think Greytraveller is right with remote viewing. I just couldn't understand what the application to these energy/time balls was used for at the time. In any event I don't believe that these guys were sending the balls to earth, but if they were remote viewing 'portals' then I guess they could to send them anywhere to view the future/past/present.

And I don't trust the greys for a second but I do trust what I see. There are many different species of greys and just because a few rebels go around abducting people, we shouldn't get the impression that all of them do this. I have heard of quite a few that are very nice.

To completely Avoid the messy arguments of time travel and its accompanying paradoxes (the Grandfather paradox et al) I will posit that what the aliens were doing was a form of remote viewing (RV). Apparently there are some races so advanced that they can remote view future and past events. (BTW this was rumored to have been done at the CIA RV program code named "Star Gate" as well.) The ability to accurately see the future would certainly be a VERY important ability for any advanced race of beings.

Remote viewing is definitely possible. While I was standing there watching the grey form this ball, it got larger and faster and filled with different types of energy. I'm guessing that he was somehow able to create a link with a certain point in time/space and 'view' the events during that time, assuming it was RV. I'm sure that they probably have the ability to RV many different timelines as well, in order to determine the best course of action.

[Everlasting]

The PTB have messed around with timetravel and timeviewing  stuff, some sources say that they kidnapped boys and sent them off into timeportals. Many of them didn't come back.

[kurtykurt42]

Yea... I have heard several peoples' interviews that confirm the use of homeless kids that they would send through time. This has all been going on since the Philadelphia Experiment in the 1940's. Apparently the chair that they use in UFO's has the ability to open these time/space windows when integrated with your thoughts. If you think of a wooden chair, then a wooden chair materializes. If you think of a tropical beach, then a portal to a tropical beach appears. And if you think of a tropical beach in 1900, then a time/space bridge is opened and people can go through it, although in most of those experiments I think it was a one way ticket.

[iNNERvOYAGER]

Great rendering of a Grey, well done!

It's amazing what we remember when waking in time. Good tip on the alarm tech.

To think that a lot of these fantastic experiences escape recall is mind boggling.

[silentfox]

the problem with this idea of altering time lines is in the fact that time is irrelevant it is only a measurement we (humans) created to record events. proof of this is the fact that the time we have been fallowing isin't even mathematically correct or even. for example we made each day 24 hours but then realized time was building up and becoming miss aligned with the rising and setting of the sun so to correct this mistake we create daylight savings time. if they instead changed how many seconds/minutes equal and hour and how many hours ar in a day it would be more accurate as a measurement .

then there are moonths we chose 12 moonths in a year by the phases of the moon, but because of all the extra time that still builds up the months were getting screwed up too so leap years were created adding an extra day adding an extra day at the end of specific months. this explanation isint perfect i know, but i believe Einstein explained this in his theory on time and the possibility of time travel.

now for my explanation /theory of time travel

imagine time as just one instance like the blink of an eye except faster than anything. now imagine this instance is every thing happening as a perceptual, constant event all possibilities and outcomes this instance = 1 event (i will call it "1"). within this "1" there are several versions of your consciousness taking all the paths that you have already decided to experience, this is were dejah vaughn is explained as your consciousness and another version of your consciousness overlaying in an event that is constantly happening allowing you to get a glimpse or briefly remember some thing that has happened and chose to take the same path or alter it. this glimpse is is like a form of time travel it allows you the chance to alter some thing that is both past present and future. because of this that would mean these memories or events are stored in our souls or consciousness  not our body's also meaning the key to seeing and traveling in "1" is traveling by shifting between our souls consciousness within this "1" with awareness.(which is always constantly happening every time we make a decision, but without our awareness.)mastering this ability means you could (re/pre)experience the events of your past lives and chose to alter them based on your choice and it would be fine because it already happened., but by doing this you also have the risk of putting your self in a event you would never be cought in.


this is very complex but if you read it closely it makes seance.
i would continue the rest of this theory but im very tired so please reply or pm me back i would like to here open opinions n this thinks.

~silent~

[CFTraveler]

the problem with this idea of altering time lines is in the fact that time is irrelevant it is only a measurement we (humans) created to record events. proof of this is the fact that the time we have been fallowing isin't even mathematically correct or even. for example we made each day 24 hours but then realized time was building up and becoming miss aligned with the rising and setting of the sun so to correct this mistake we create daylight savings time. if they instead changed how many seconds/minutes equal and hour and how many hours ar in a day it would be more accurate as a measurement .

Ok, who wants to take this one?

[Xanth]

Ok, who wants to take this one?

I would... but I don't know where to start.  LoL

Let's just pull out the "Buzzer of Incorrectness!" and give it a push...
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!

That was fun. 

[kurtykurt42]

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT! 

[cpt. picard]

hmm.... humans measure time so we can use it, our measurement of it has nothing to do with what it is or if it exists, time exists in physics as basically another spatial dimension if im not mistaken, so it exists at least as much as our 3 spatial dimensions do. As for making the BZZZZT sound, i would say not everything he posted is wrong, he is right that all time is basically happening at the same time and it is just our perception that makes it appear linear, as for choosing our paths through the timeline? I go more for the thoery presented by quantum physics, that every instant we are splitting into infinite alternate timelines based on the possible decisions we make. But linear time as it is has nothing to do with human measurements of time... why would daylight savings and stuff matter obviously its just human measurement of something which is already there. I wonder how the relationship between space, motion and time would confuse our time travel discussion some more lol, if time moves relative to motion throuigh space and stuff like that then time cant be considered one constant thing, which just complicates it even more and i dont feel like thinking about it. Anyways, our measurements being off is not proof of any kind that time dosent exist, only proof that our human made system of recording time is flawed, mainly because an actual Earth day is 23 hours and 56 minutes, humans just round it to 24 hours for a convenient and symmetrical system of measurement, then use daylight savings to compensate. Human measurements of time have no actual objective relationship to the flow of time, and im not sure what would make you come to that conclusion.

[CFTraveler]

The "buzzer of incorrectness"^TM was for a specific point on the post, not the entire post.  That's why I quoted the paragraph in which it appeared.  But if you like, I can be more precise.
So here goes:

we made each day 24 hours but then realized time was building up and becoming miss aligned with the rising and setting of the sun

No,
We made the day 24 hours long because
1- It takes 24 hours from noon to noon.
2- It takes 23.57 hours for the earth to complete one rotation on it's axis.

Due to the earth's wobble, daylight starts at different times each day (incrementally), so the (nazis/powers that be) decided to taylor 'when the day starts' with the beginning of daylight, so that we have to get up earlier in the summer and later in the winter- but as the daylight hours are longer in the summer, so they are shorter in the winter, canceling each other out.  Daylight Savings time has nothing to do with the length of the day, it has to do with how much daylight is in the day.

so to correct this mistake we create daylight savings time.

It's not a mistake.  If you count a day as how long the earth rotates, then we're 'taking too long' ( a whole 24hours instead of 23.57) but if you count from noontime to noontime, you get 24 hours (a solar day). 

So it's not a mistake, daylight savings time is a calculated move to make us work more.  Bastards that they are.  But I digress.  And yes, if you figured out I hate DST, you're right.  I hate it.

[Xanth]

This might provide a bit more detail:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time

[silentfox]

fare enough forgive me for my incorrectness.

cpt. picard thanks for clarifying that. i wasn't trying to say time didn't exist only that it is flawed, i mean if i was trying to say time didn't exist then how could i use an instance as a form of measurement.

i was manly trying to say that in order to understand time travel you had to understand that the concept of time is flawed and in order to time travel i believe you have to alter your perception of time its self.(at least that's what i think i was trying to say at the time)lol

cf traveler also thanks for clarifying that. hmm seems i got alot of facts wrong

hell guess ill throw in the towel and push the buzzer. bzzzzz lets flush this worthless theory down the drain and pretend this abomination never happened ^^....

~you saw nothing...oh also "These are not the droids you are looking for."

guess it was a bad idea to try and prove time travel as being possible. sorry for waisting your time on this one
~silent~

[kurtykurt42]

fare enough forgive me for my incorrectness.

cpt. picard thanks for clarifying that. i wasn't trying to say time didn't exist only that it is flawed, i mean if i was trying to say time didn't exist then how could i use an instance as a form of measurement.

i was manly trying to say that in order to understand time travel you had to understand that the concept of time is flawed and in order to time travel i believe you have to alter your perception of time its self.(at least that's what i think i was trying to say at the time)lol

It's not time that's flawed but it is we that are flawed. To me Time and Space are perfect, the creations of beings with more power and wisdom than we could ever hope to achieve in a trillion years. One of the reasons why I am here is to uncover some of the mystery behind time and learn more about it's true nature, so that I can appreciate it for the wonderful creation that it is.

[silentfox]

It's not time that's flawed but it is we that are flawed. To me Time and Space are perfect, the creations of beings with more power and wisdom than we could ever hope to achieve in a trillion years. One of the reasons why I am here is to uncover some of the mystery behind time and learn more about it's true nature, so that I can appreciate it for the wonderful creation that it is.

Yes indeed space and time are perfect. i worded the first sentence wrong by saying time itself is flawed that is incorrect ,but i meant what i said on the second sentence "the concept of time is flawed." not every ones most. now im going to keep this response short as not to mess up any thing else XD

~silent

[kurtykurt42]

Most people don't understand anything about time, nor do they think it's possible to manipulate time, which is what I saw these beings doing in my OBE. My experiments with time manipulation no doubt lead me to these beings so that I could 'see how it's done'. I have been using my knowledge of computer and electrical engineering to create technology that attempts to accelerate/decelerate time in localized fields. In fact just recently I was able decelerate time by several seconds in a stable torsion field or 'time bubble' that I was able to hold together with my thoughts for about 10 minutes. I am working on a larger application now that uses a $300 10 lb quartz crystal sphere, over $250 worth of Neodymium magnets, diamagnetic material(Bismuth), and different varieties of scalar coils to help amplify thought. Using this technology I am hoping to generate a stable time field large enough for a human (ie. a time machine), which is capable of physically transporting you to any point in time.

Here are a few pictures of what I am currently working on to control time, I'll let you guys be the judge of weather or not you think it can be done:

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