Alien Encounter On the Astral Plane

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Greytraveller

Hay there everybody  :-)

cpt picard, you wrote
QuoteWhat I was saying is that if there is only one timeline, then aliens screwing with events on earth seems very wrong, however, if there is infinite timelines for every possible scenario, then it would seem fairly pointless to heal people in the past when those people will already be fine in several (possibly infinte) timelines.

I am in complete agreement with your statement (and an exalt to you !) Even if there are a great many alternate timelines it still is unacceptable for any group of beings to go back and alter a past, and thereby kill/destroy any number of people/beings through their actions. Some sort of innate time travel ethics is clearly called for here.

Regards  8-)
Grey

joel1212

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Quote from: kurtykurt42 on December 17, 2009, 18:17:18
Most people don't understand anything about time, nor do they think it's possible to manipulate time, which is what I saw these beings doing in my OBE. My experiments with time manipulation no doubt lead me to these beings so that I could 'see how it's done'. I have been using my knowledge of computer and electrical engineering to create technology that attempts to accelerate/decelerate time in localized fields. In fact just recently I was able decelerate time by several seconds in a stable torsion field or 'time bubble' that I was able to hold together with my thoughts for about 10 minutes. I am working on a larger application now that uses a $300 10 lb quartz crystal sphere, over $250 worth of Neodymium magnets, diamagnetic material(Bismuth), and different varieties of scalar coils to help amplify thought. Using this technology I am hoping to generate a stable time field large enough for a human (ie. a time machine), which is capable of physically transporting you to any point in time.

Here are a few pictures of what I am currently working on to control time, I'll let you guys be the judge of weather or not you think it can be done:

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i read somewhere about this guy that would get visits by other beings and one time he said to himself he wished his legs were not sore from working on the house all day or something like that and the being formed this field around his legs, like ur time bubble theory, and sped up the time inside of it to rest/heal his legs.
I also read somewhere that time travel has been discovered already but during tests, subjects(homeless children at one point) didn't make it back. they were able to send them somewhere but they don't know where so i suggest caution!!!

kurtykurt42

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Thanks joel, I'll definitely be careful. Until I get better I only plan on sending small objects through time such as pennies or paperclips but definitely not small children.

With the aid of this technology I have also been spending time practicing time manipulation to slow time around my energy body in order to get more stuff done in less amount time. Or in other words, I am building up my capacity to bio-electrogravitically use more time than the average person. Personally, I have been good with time my entire life. Since I was young I never needed to look at a clock and never wore a watch, I could always feel what time it was. Nowadays I seem to be very accurate and can tell the time of day to within a couple of minutes, even if I'm sleeping. Recently, while I am dreaming or OOB I find myself talking and working among very intelligent individuals that are experts in the field of technology, magnetics, thought, energy, space, time, etc. which leads me to believe that either in a past life I was some kind of an expert in this field or that I will be in expert in the future. In any event I feel it's my destiny to master time.

Here is another configuration I forgot to include above (it's not time related). I am thinking of putting this one in clear fiberglass resin in order to hold it in place. It will be cube shaped, about 4" x 4" consisting of four grade N45 Neodymium magnets, a double terminated quartz crystal with scalar winding and 24K gold around the center of the crystal. I have been using it to heal myself from energy imbalances and I believe it can be modified to heal individuals from cancer (with a powerful enough intent from the user). My grandmother is currently suffering from cancer and it is my goal to use this technology to cure her.

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lonecrow66

I highly doubt a grey alien was sending healing into the past present or future.  More something of a sinister nature most likely.  They are evil to the bone.  Anyone who has to hide behind in the shadows is outside of the light. 

cpt. picard

Quote from: lonecrow66 on December 18, 2009, 13:27:06
I highly doubt a grey alien was sending healing into the past present or future.  More something of a sinister nature most likely.  They are evil to the bone.  Anyone who has to hide behind in the shadows is outside of the light. 

I agree, the majority of experiences with the Greys depict them as sinister, and my one or two encounters with them while OOB, were not frightening but they did give off bad vibes and resided in dark and dreary regions of the astral. I for one dont think the "greys" have any right to the timeline which once again leads me to say, if what Kurt saw was actually happening, they must have been up to no good. Even if the greys are "spiritually advanced" or technologically advanced, I dont believe that implys that theyre intentions must be good.

silentfox

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on December 17, 2009, 18:17:18
Most people don't understand anything about time, nor do they think it's possible to manipulate time, which is what I saw these beings doing in my OBE. My experiments with time manipulation no doubt lead me to these beings so that I could 'see how it's done'. I have been using my knowledge of computer and electrical engineering to create technology that attempts to accelerate/decelerate time in localized fields. In fact just recently I was able decelerate time by several seconds in a stable torsion field or 'time bubble' that I was able to hold together with my thoughts for about 10 minutes. I am working on a larger application now that uses a $300 10 lb quartz crystal sphere, over $250 worth of Neodymium magnets, diamagnetic material(Bismuth), and different varieties of scalar coils to help amplify thought. Using this technology I am hoping to generate a stable time field large enough for a human (ie. a time machine), which is capable of physically transporting you to any point in time.

Here are a few pictures of what I am currently working on to control time, I'll let you guys be the judge of weather or not you think it can be done:



Pic 1
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Pic 3
Pic 4
Pic 5
Pic 6

im quite interested in this i have a question though
have you figured out a way to amplify thoughts ? or the effect your thoughts have on an ob ject using these devices if so what helps?
???DO SHADOWES FOLLOW US OR DO WE FOLLOW OUR SHADOWES????????????????    A YANTRA TO THINK ABOUT.

kurtykurt42

Yes indeed I have learned how to amplify thought to a large degree. The application of these devices can be used for several things but mainly to amplify thought and intent that comes from our mind. It is then able to store a particular thought pattern into the structure of the crystals and amplify the effect with magnetic/diamagnetic fields and scalar waves.

The white coil has been very interesting. It is a scalar coil wound around a solid bismuth core. Bismuth is the most naturally diamagnetic of all metals, which causes it to create a magnetic field in opposition of an externally applied magnetic field, thus causing a repulsive effect. Bismuth is about 10 times stronger then crystal and the frequency is lower and easier to feel. So far I believe it's the best system for using function generators to create and accurately control the scalar waves. The addition of a tub of water makes the waves easier to feel and sense with your hand and pineal. Once the correct resonance frequency is established with the function generator you can reach out with your mind, and intentions, to access whatever you seek.

Using a scalar coil wrapped around a crystal instead of the Bismuth can exchange your thought energy into and out of the crystal. I have found that doing this causes pressure in the third eye as well as my entire head. I have used the cubical magnet configuration to relieve the pressure and seems to work almost every time. I believe what is happening is that the scalar coil on a crystal will slowly break up the calcium deposits at the pineal area, and awaken the senses to what it really is to open the third eye center to a functional state on the physical side.

One thing I have also noticed with these fields is the rate at which time flows seems to accelerate/deccerlate as a result of the torsion fields, which is why I have been measuring the fields with digital clocks and mechanical stop watch. Not only do I believe these devices have the ability to heal people from just about any disease and cancer but I have a feeling they can also be used to control matter, consciousness and energy, as well as space and time. Making this technology essential for interstellar space travel, time travel, healing, communications, materialization of physical objects, interdimensional travel (astral projection) as well as many other things.

lonecrow66

Quote from: cpt. picard on December 18, 2009, 16:15:31
I agree, the majority of experiences with the Greys depict them as sinister, and my one or two encounters with them while OOB, were not frightening but they did give off bad vibes and resided in dark and dreary regions of the astral. I for one dont think the "greys" have any right to the timeline which once again leads me to say, if what Kurt saw was actually happening, they must have been up to no good. Even if the greys are "spiritually advanced" or technologically advanced, I dont believe that implys that theyre intentions must be good.

The laws of the universe are set up so that all being have access to the energies within it.  People can use it for good and bad.  But the energies are the same.  It is all GOD.  How they choose to use it or hide that knowledge  is up to them and us.

We've been hidden from the truth that they had the knowledge and have been using it for ages against us.  Taking people without their will and hurting them is NOT a good thing.  If the aliens said something like "we need help saving our race can yo help us"  they'd have volunteers.  If they said it was for our own genetic purity to save our planet people would line up.  But they can't have good intentions because they are hiding them.

We are nothing more than their ignorant lab rat colony.  With some banker rats in charge. 

kurtykurt42

I personally don't have a problem with the greys as long as they don't abduct me or my family and perform tests on us. I have read many different reports of whistle blowers meeting greys on government bases and they described the greys as very friendly, as well as spiritually evolved, with the ability to communicate telepathically. In fact I believe they are a little too spiritually evolved for them to have any interest in a child race such as ours.

After talking with a couple of individuals that have communicated with greys via astral projection they (the greys) have all said the same thing regarding humans from our planet. We must first learn to clear ourselves of inner conflicts, deal with all emotional traumas and control issues. Also, we must practice working on our energy body skills here on earth with each other before contacting them.

zareste

There are lots of humanoid species that fit the description of a 'grey', all with their own behaviors and agendas, so it's really pointless to say "greys are like this and that"

Plus, racial profiling is not very healthy

Yamabushi

Quote from: zareste on December 19, 2009, 13:58:29
There are lots of humanoid species that fit the description of a 'grey', all with their own behaviors and agendas, so it's really pointless to say "greys are like this and that"

Plus, racial profiling is not very healthy

Well put.

cpt. picard

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Quote from: kurtykurt42 on December 19, 2009, 13:29:28
I personally don't have a problem with the greys as long as they don't abduct me or my family and perform tests on us. I have read many different reports of whistle blowers meeting greys on government bases and they described the greys as very friendly, as well as spiritually evolved, with the ability to communicate telepathically. In fact I believe they are a little too spiritually evolved for them to have any interest in a child race such as ours.

After talking with a couple of individuals that have communicated with greys via astral projection they (the greys) have all said the same thing regarding humans from our planet. We must first learn to clear ourselves of inner conflicts, deal with all emotional traumas and control issues. Also, we must practice working on our energy body skills here on earth with each other before contacting them.

Well, saying as long as you dont care if they leave you alone, just seems wrong, I mean if theyre abducting other humans I honestly dont care how advanced they are, what they are doing is unjust then i see no point in admiring them. You also mention them being seen on government bases, and if they are  in collaboration with our filthy corrupted government, that is all the more reason to not trust them as that basically confirms their sinister plans. Apparently we are the child race yet we've come up with the concepts of Freedom and attempted to apply them, while Grays work with our governments which are obsessed with subverting freedom. As for racial profiling, keep in mind that many of the racial equality philosophies of today are based on current political idealogies, not that im a racist but honestly, a completely different species very well could have different cultural or biological tendencies towards sinister behaviour.

kurtykurt42

As zareste and I have already said, there are many species of greys throughout the universe. When you astral project you may find yourself on the opposite side of the universe near a planet billions of light years from here, where a species of greys may be the nicest and most caring people you have ever met.

silentfox

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on December 19, 2009, 04:55:24
Yes indeed I have learned how to amplify thought to a large degree. The application of these devices can be used for several things but mainly to amplify thought and intent that comes from our mind. It is then able to store a particular thought pattern into the structure of the crystals and amplify the effect with magnetic/diamagnetic fields and scalar waves.

The white coil has been very interesting. It is a scalar coil wound around a solid bismuth core. Bismuth is the most naturally diamagnetic of all metals, which causes it to create a magnetic field in opposition of an externally applied magnetic field, thus causing a repulsive effect. Bismuth is about 10 times stronger then crystal and the frequency is lower and easier to feel. So far I believe it's the best system for using function generators to create and accurately control the scalar waves. The addition of a tub of water makes the waves easier to feel and sense with your hand and pineal. Once the correct resonance frequency is established with the function generator you can reach out with your mind, and intentions, to access whatever you seek.

Using a scalar coil wrapped around a crystal instead of the Bismuth can exchange your thought energy into and out of the crystal. I have found that doing this causes pressure in the third eye as well as my entire head. I have used the cubical magnet configuration to relieve the pressure and seems to work almost every time. I believe what is happening is that the scalar coil on a crystal will slowly break up the calcium deposits at the pineal area, and awaken the senses to what it really is to open the third eye center to a functional state on the physical side.

One thing I have also noticed with these fields is the rate at which time flows seems to accelerate/deccerlate as a result of the torsion fields, which is why I have been measuring the fields with digital clocks and mechanical stop watch. Not only do I believe these devices have the ability to heal people from just about any disease and cancer but I have a feeling they can also be used to control matter, consciousness and energy, as well as space and time. Making this technology essential for interstellar space travel, time travel, healing, communications, materialization of physical objects, interdimensional travel (astral projection) as well as many other things.


interesting seance they amplify thought and effect physical it would be correct to assume they can help people open there chakra so they can feel the vibrations and easly slip out of body correct? im currently wondering if you can make a tut on how to make a simplified version of this experiment. and i was thinking maybe you can create necklaces by solidifying a smaller version of this.

~Silent~
???DO SHADOWES FOLLOW US OR DO WE FOLLOW OUR SHADOWES????????????????    A YANTRA TO THINK ABOUT.

kurtykurt42

As much as I would like to make a tutorial to help people understand how to create their own astral projection technology, there just aren't enough people interested. Anyways, it's pretty complicated to understand and you would most likely need a degree in engineering in order to get everything operational.

catmeow

Well maybe there's no such thing as messing with the timeline. Maybe it's impossible. Say I go back in time and am walking along the pavement. I see a boy cross the road right in front of a big lorry. So I rush over and push him out of the path of certain death and we both fall in a heap. Did I change time? Nope because that boy grows up to be my father. If I never saved him I would never have been born to save him.  So although I exercised my free will in saving him I didn't change the timeline - it was all meant to happen. It couldn't happen any other way. Maybe time works like this. We can't change the timeline because whatever we do is exactly what needs to be done.
The bad news is there's no key to the Universe. The good news is it's not locked. - Swami Beyondananda

zareste

I've been studying time, and I don't think it's as simple as a linear or flexible timeline. I think what we have is a 'perceived time' that differs slightly from person to person

This is hard to explain because I don't understand it much either, but if you were to go back in time and - say - kill Hitler, it would not effect people in the present. They would still remember WW2 as it happened to them, with Hitler included. You've only killed Hitler in your perceived past. The only effect it would have is subliminal. That is, people might perceive a world without Hitler in their dreams (as you created it), but they are still tied to their perceived present where Hitler once reigned.

It's similar to moving an object in the astral. You are, indeed, moving the object, but people in the physical don't see the object move, because their minds are attached to the physical matrix and the physical matrix did not recognize the movement. People might suspect the object has moved because they perceived it on some level, but when they turn and look, the object will be right where it was.

kurtykurt42

Understanding Time is pretty confusing, that's for sure!  :-D

omcasey


You all might enjoy this C2C interview with Dr. David Anderson on Time Technology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhSE8oM-ZMg.  There are 16 parts, you can follow each of the next videos in the "video response" box..



kurtykurt42


Timandra

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on February 10, 2010, 17:32:32
Understanding Time is pretty confusing, that's for sure!  :-D


I had a strange experience this week. I have a digital thermometer in my livingroom, which gives the temperature for 2 seconds, and then the time for 2 seconds. The change between the 2 is quick , but one time I was standing in my room, absorbed in thought but looking at that thermometer, I saw the time slowly disappear and fading and the temperature slowly appearing! That was very weird. :-o So it made me think of KurtyKurt immediately.  :-P
"Stop messing with time Kurt, you created a temporal flux in my livingroom!"  :-D :wink:

But if it wasn't you, what could have happened??  :?
Some things have to be believed to be seen ~ Ralph Hodgson

kurtykurt42

All of us seem to have the ability to effect time in one way or another, even if we don't know how we're doing it.  :-D

thirdeye26

OMG!! This is so fascinating that I don't know what to say. These alien guys were trying to time travel, eh? I wonder if we on earth will also learn the technique, if some of us don't already have. How fascinating would that be!!

kurtykurt42

Dr. David Anderson and his group have been experimenting with this since 2002. They have been able to generate 'stable time bubbles' that are able to accelerate or decelerate time in a localized ares of space.

This is different from 'time travel' because you are not physically traveling though time but only creating time / space bubble's, where time is passing at a different rate of speed.