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thebluerose

Has anyone here achieved time travel? Does anyone know how to time travel?

kurtykurt42

Hi thebluerose,

Check out my thread regarding time here.

As for time travel... I'm working on it.

NoY

if you say day one. the energy travels to your neighbor and the day after they hear day one. and the energy keeps traveling to there neighbor and the day after that they hear day one.so to travel to the year 1500 all you have to do is go to the end of the street. its the same story but they started there day one later. and all times exist in the same now.

I'm a Timelord

:NoY:

kurtykurt42

Understanding Time travel is too hard for me... I have given up on it for now.  :-D

Realisation

Time Travel is a hard concept to grasp. Especially the whole paradox thing and butterfly effect and parallels. Haha.

Archangel Michael

TIME TRAVEL?

Is it really achievable? If anyone had.. how does Time Travel benefit us?
Can we go visit anywhere of any time?
Does this include past and future?

kurtykurt42

Time travel is very dangerous and very confusing. If some government organizations start time travel programs, I have a feeling nothing good will come from it.

Stillwater

The metaphysician I mentioned before told me that most people who hold well regarded opinions about time travel say that there is nothing to fear about changing the past, since the effect has already ocurred, if it will happen at all.

There are of course, people who hold different views, and most of them involve moving reality through an abstract reticulum of time-streams, and shifting your own future onto a different path. Although it is not clear what happens to a viewer in the future you came from (your old present). Most people who hold this type of view say that this is an irrelevant question, since your present no longer exists in a tangible way for you, and it is really your own persepective that is being shifted, not that of those on the infinite reticulum of other time streams.

So in almost every type of formalized theory I know of, there either isn't a danger of something being changed at all, or the change is only relevant for the person who does the changing.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

kurtykurt42

I'm not talking about altering pasts / futures. I'm saying that it is dangerous for you. You may get trapped in a past that isn't yours and never be able to return to the timeline you're in right now.

Archangel Michael

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Quote from: kurtykurt42 on March 06, 2010, 01:34:37
I'm not talking about altering pasts / futures. I'm saying that it is dangerous for you. You may get trapped in a past that isn't yours and never be able to return to the timeline you're in right now.

That made me to warn myself to never attempt Time Travel. However, I heard if I can Lucid Dream, then I can do Time Travel. So, if that's true, then Time Travel should be safe because Lucid Dreaming is safe. Isn't it?  :|

kurtykurt42

I'm referring to time travel with your physical body. To your energy body, space and time aren't obstacles, so you can travel through time all you want while you dream (I think many people already do this accidentally).

Naleek

I'm curious to hear what you guys think of the infamous time traveller John Titor (www.johntitor.com). I was re-reading his postings for the first time in years recently and I realized how some things he said are starting to come true now. John claimed that the  Everett-Wheeler-Graham theory was correct, where there was an infinite number of worldlines within our superverse. Even though John said it was unlikely that his presence in our timeline would effect our future outcomes, I think it's possible that his presence delayed his predictions, like CERN's microsingularity discovery in 2001 and an American civil war in 2005. I think John was spot on the money when he described about how more and more Americans would start going back to our republic's fundamentals by relying on the Constitution -- this has been happening increasingly since Ron Paul's presidential campaign became an internet sensation in 2007. This resistance from government would be a main cause for the civil war (either you're with them or you're not) and John claimed a "Waco type event" would occur on a monthly basis. And even though the Waco claim hasn't exactly happened yet, we have seen events on a different and smaller scale happening somewaht regularly lately, like the Fort Hood shooting, Christmas bomber, and the man who flew into the IRS building in Texas.

But what really fascinates me is that John very clearly described the mechanics of time travel, yet it seems no one has even tried debunking his physics, but his predictions instead. I would really love to hear a physicist's perspective on John's time travel device.

kurtykurt42

Thinking about time travel usually just ends of giving me a headache.  :-D

But yea, I have studied Titor and all of his material.

NoY

Its always your future
and you never get any younger

it is totally possible to travel to a parallel that's like the past or like the future though
I don't know how you could do it physically

:NoY:

HALLUCINATION

Hey guys! I'm totally new in the forum and i spotted this topic. I have studied time a lot. I have read  and i read all the books i can find that talk about time. I have studied the effects of the velocity of the regarding body and gravity to time as explained in special and general relativity. I have checked out numerous of electonical sources that describe how quantum mechanics use time and a lot of recepies for the construction of a timemachine, without necessarily to be a machine like the construction of a wormhole or a time loop.

The first thing that confuses me is ... how can we talk about time travelling when we can't even give a satisfying meaning to the term "time"?

Secondly... time travel has always been one of human's biggest dreams. He has been searching of ways to cover this gap inside him but without satisfied succes. His fantasy passed the limits and created a huge amount of time travel stories. Even though all the storied were fake, they helped human to understand the consequences.

Lastly, and actually to begin with, in this topic we analyze ways to travel through time or the consequences of time travelling?
ΟΤΙ ΔΕ ΦΑΙΝΕΤΑΙ ΔΕ ΣΗΜΑΙΝΕΙ ΠΩΣ ΔΕΝ ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ

Could it be my imagination? A mirror of my fantasy? A fear-induced hallucination or is there no way back from the halo of darkness?

kurtykurt42

Quote from: HALLUCINATION on March 25, 2010, 15:34:34
The first thing that confuses me is ... how can we talk about time travelling when we can't even give a satisfying meaning to the term "time"?

It's up to the individual (or group of individuals) studying time that give time meaning. Not every human can agree what time is.

Quote from: HALLUCINATION on March 25, 2010, 15:34:34
Lastly, and actually to begin with, in this topic we analyze ways to travel through time or the consequences of time travelling?

The consequences have to be carefully considered before any time travelling adventure can take place.

People seem to like the idea of time travel but usually have no idea of the consequences. If you think astral projection is difficult and interstellar space travel is confusing... Then good luck understanding time travel.

HALLUCINATION

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It's up to the individual (or group of individuals) studying time that give time meaning. Not every human can agree what time is.

I think no human can give a reasonable meaning to "time". The most accurate explanation ever given is: "SI defines the second as 9,192,631,770 cycles of that radiation which corresponds to the transition between two electron spin energy levels of the ground state of the 133Cs atom" (WIKIPEDIA) It yet explains just a measurement unit which is human's creation, but not time as an entity itself.


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The consequences have to be carefully considered before any time travelling adventure can take place.

People seem to like the idea of time travel but usually have no idea of the consequences

So tragically true... If we insert the consequences of time travel into the whole sketch, we conclude that time travel ends to be "just" a voyage to parallel universes. To be honest, the consequences are cuased by the trip to the past and not due to the future trips (just a note here: we take seriously under consideration that reverse travels back to present are not possible)
ΟΤΙ ΔΕ ΦΑΙΝΕΤΑΙ ΔΕ ΣΗΜΑΙΝΕΙ ΠΩΣ ΔΕΝ ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ

Could it be my imagination? A mirror of my fantasy? A fear-induced hallucination or is there no way back from the halo of darkness?

kurtykurt42

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Quote from: HALLUCINATION on March 26, 2010, 11:51:18
I think no human can give a reasonable meaning to "time". The most accurate explanation ever given is: "SI defines the second as 9,192,631,770 cycles of that radiation which corresponds to the transition between two electron spin energy levels of the ground state of the 133Cs atom" (WIKIPEDIA) It yet explains just a measurement unit which is human's creation, but not time as an entity itself.

Like I said before, It's up to each person (human or not) to understand what time is. A physicist from a very advanced world could study time for 1,000 years. He will understand time much better then every human on our planet combined but to many of us he would sound foolish. Mostly because many of us aren't ready to understand what time is yet.

Quote from: HALLUCINATION on March 26, 2010, 11:51:18
To be honest, the consequences are cuased by the trip to the past and not due to the future trips (just a note here: we take seriously under consideration that reverse travels back to present are not possible)

I'm not sure what books you have read regarding time or what 'effects of the velocity of the regarding body and gravity to time as explained in special and general relativity.' means for you but consequences can happen whether you go into the past or the future, I can assure you. And returning to your original timeline is very possible.

HALLUCINATION

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I'm not sure what books you have read regarding time or what 'effects of the velocity of the regarding body and gravity to time as explained in special and general relativity.' means for you but consequences can happen whether you go into the past or the future, I can assure you. And returning to your original timeline is very possible.

Firstly, I didn't say that returning back to the "present" is impossible. I said consider that returning trips are not possible and that's what reduces the causes of future trips. I think we should all realize that we are time travellers every second of our life. Of course it's an infinitesimal time travel to the future caused from our velocity, the earth's rotation plus numerous of other physical phenomenos. But if we someday succeed to travel to the past then everything will change. Not only the present, but also our ideas will differ regarding religional and social issues. It's gonna be a complete chaos! However, if we eventually travel further to the future, the present won't change or any of our ideas. The future is later and we can't alter the future straightforwardly.
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Could it be my imagination? A mirror of my fantasy? A fear-induced hallucination or is there no way back from the halo of darkness?

the_doctor

#19
hi new to this forum.
i have been reading this thread and i was wandering whether anyone has used the akashic records to see what is says about physical time travel. because surely there must be some information in there about how physical time travel can be achieved.

surely a small time gate or portal could be built now probably only few centimeters big.

Stillwater

Quotei have been reading this thread and i was wandering whether anyone has used the akashic records to see what is says about physical time travel. because surely there must be some information in there about how physical time travel can be achieved.

People who mention the Akashic records generally say that they are availible on a "permission" basis. I am not saying this is true, but it is one possible explanation for why this information has not been accessed, should the Akashic be exactly as people say it is. Or maybe it has been accessed, and you are not aware, since the person who did had a mind to keep it hush-hush?

Quotesurely a small time gate or portal could be built now probably only few centimeters big.

Lol... what do you base this supposition on, with such a determinate consideration of what sizes an object which is not even accepted to be possible should be manufactured at?

And welcome to the forums  :wink:
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

personalreality

i saw a time machine on tv once.  (seriously)

it was like a tube or something with mirrors in it and they shot a laser inside that created a vortex or something
i'll have to try to find the video.
be awesome.

the_doctor

Quote from: Stillwater on October 17, 2010, 14:33:41
Lol... what do you base this supposition on, with such a determinate consideration of what sizes an object which is not even accepted to be possible should be manufactured at?


i am basing it on information from Dr Ronald Mallett the scientist who is currently trying to build a time machine and he claims that currently we should be able to build a time machine small enough to send information through, which is why i said a few centimeters

Taoistguy

My own take on time travel is based on my understanding and experience of it which is zero.
I have read a lot of stuff about time travel but no one really knows and it is all theories, mostly by scientists who don't really have a clue. They think they understand matter but do not really know.

As for my own theories? ... I believe all time is connected and time is a Perception. Just like when you're young and time seems to last longer. But time is like matter, it is neither solid or empty. I believe teverytime is happening right now. And in a way, we are travelling into the future each moment!


Achak

http://dalepower.net/articles/articles_TimeManip.html

This thread reminded me of a site I came across long ago about time travel and how it can be done by bending our perception.  Interesting, don't know if I believe it though. Check it out above, and let me know what you all think.